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    A collection of dumped babies - Victoria's Secret

    Caution prior to reading the full article - some of it is quite distressing to read. That Victoria?s Secret baby is just the tip of a disturbing trend | LifeSiteNews.com


    Today the body of a baby was discovered in the bag of a 17-year-old teen suspected of shoplifting at a Victoria's Secret store in Manhattan. People are rightly shocked by this event.However, what if I told you that this sort of thing is happening routinely, all across the country, as well as in other parts of the world? And that the only reason that it's making national headlines this time is because the discovery of the baby's body was at a Victoria Secret store, which gives the story that extra bizarre twist, with just a hint of weird sexuality, that will grab attention?
    Take a look at the following list...which is far from complete. I've simply compiled some of the most shocking, and most recent incidents.


    • October 17 - A 17-year-old girl is stopped at a Victoria's Secret store in Manhattan for suspected shoplifting, and admits that in her bag she has the body of a baby that she gave birth to the day previous.
    • October 11 - A newborn baby is found, bleeding but alive, with part of his umbilical cord still attached, abandoned on the concrete in the back yard of a house in Queen's, New York. The baby survived.
    • September 19 - The body of a baby is found at a garbage dump in West Yorkshire, in the United Kingdom.
    • August 28 - A woman gives birth in a bar bathroom in Pennsylvania, stuffs the baby in the water tank of a toilet, and then returns to the bar to watch a fight on TV. The body was subsequently discovered by the bar owner.
    • August 7 - The body of a baby is discovered at hospital rest room in Texas.
    • July 9 - Police discover the body of a baby abandoned in a diaper box in the bushes at a public park in Roseville, California.
    • June 21 - The body of a small baby is found in a solid waste tank in a waste disposal plant just north of Montreal. Police say the baby was likely flushed down the toilet.
    • June 21 - The body of a newborn baby is discovered in a trash can in Oildale, California.
    • June 20 - An Iraqi-born UK woman is found guilty of causing grievous bodily harm after stuffing her baby in a garbage bag and throwing her down a 44 ft. garbage chute.
    • June 14 - A garbage truck driver in Thailand sees a small hand emerge from a garbage bag during a pickup. The baby had a balloon tied around her throat.
    • June 12 - Brittany Cole is arrested in Altheimer, Arkansas, after dumping her infant son in the trash can. She reportedly told police that she was tired of caring for the baby and could no longer do so.
    • June 5 - Twenty-seven-year-old Virginia resident Shavaughn Robinson is charged after allegedly giving birth in a toilet, then placing her daughter in a trash can, and then taking the garbage bag with the baby in it out of the can and tossing it in a dumpster.
    • June 4 - A dog discovers a living baby in Thailand that had been placed in a white plastic bag in a dump. The baby, which was premature, survived.
    • May 30 - Police announce that charges will not be filed against a Kansas teen who gave birth and dumped the body of her baby in a trash can. The teen claimed the baby was stillborn.
    • May 27 - Video footage of firefighters in Jinhua, China, rescuing a baby who had become stuck in a sewage pipe, rockets around the globe. The baby's mother apparently gave birth on the toilet, and by her own account "accidentally" flushed the baby down the toilet. The mom reportedly hid the pregnancy because the baby was not considered legal under China's brutal One-Child Policy.
    • May 2 - Cherlie Lafleur, 19, is arrested in Pennsylvania after allegedly attempting to flush her newborn baby down the toilet at her school. When that didnít work, she reportedly deposited the body in the trash can.
    • Dec. 10, 2012 - The body of a newborn baby is discovered on the conveyor belt of a garbage sorting facility in La Puente, California.
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    Re: A collection of dumped babies - Victoria's Secret

    but but but aint nurturing and caring in their genes
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    Well, these women are very much the exception (and I don't doubt that if men gave birth there'd be such cases involving men) and I can't think many of them are in a completely mentally sound state when they do it.

    Besides as long as abortion is unrestricted (in the US) I can't feel we should care too much about a few women deciding to abort just after birth instead of before.

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    Horrific.
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    I say A Usher are you an amoral shill for the feminits

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    Besides as long as abortion is unrestricted (in the US) I can't feel we should care too much about a few women deciding to abort just after birth instead of before.

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    Yeah, who gives a fuck, let's allow our moral barometer to descend into the pits of depravity without reasonable question. Spoken like a true liberal embracing hedonism! Wrapped up in the 'greater good' mentality that has seen almost 100 million dead in the last century, under the destructive guise of a 'progressive' ideology. Reason why I vehemently oppose it.
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    I say A Usher are you an amoral shill for the feminits
    Please address issues without attacking another member, regardless of how offensive you find their views.
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    I am just trying to point out the fact that it doesn't make much sense to focus on a very small number of women that kill their babies after birth versus the much larger number that have elective abortions before. It would be different for me (as I've stated before) if malice were behind the infanticides, but I do not think so.

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    It would be different for me (as I've stated before) if malice were behind the infanticides, but I do not think so.

    Andrew Usher
    I disagree.

    The whole abortion industry is fueled by ideological malice. Look at Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. Her words and agenda seem more affiliated with that of Mein Kampf?

    http://www.frc.org/ie/people/people0100a.html
    Sangerís magazine, The Birth Control Review, published articles with unabashedly racist messages, including one by Ernst Rudin, who directed Hitlerís genetic sterilization program
    Oh, there's the connection.

    Racism (KKK) link.

    From Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366
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    "Always to me any aroused group was a good group, and therefore I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered." (Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)
    Margaret Sanger
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    In Her Own Words

    "The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
    Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
    (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

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    On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
    "...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people

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    Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.

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    On the purpose of birth control:
    The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)

    On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities:
    "More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12

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    On the extermination of blacks:
    "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon

    On respecting the rights of the mentally ill:
    In her "Plan for Peace," Sanger outlined her strategy for eradication of those she deemed "feebleminded." Among the steps included in her evil scheme were immigration restrictions; compulsory sterilization; segregation to a lifetime of farm work; etc. Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 107

    On adultery:
    A woman's physical satisfaction was more important than any marriage vow, Sanger believed. Birth Control in America, p. 11

    On marital sex:
    "The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order," Sanger said. (p. 23) [Quite the opposite of God's view on the matter: "Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled; but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." (Hebrews 13:4)

    On abortion:
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    "The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)


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    Please address issues without attacking another member, regardless of how offensive you find their views.
    Yes, Douglas.
    Andrew is a coherent writer but his views are a tad simplistic. Perhaps a work-in-progress?
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    Yes, Douglas.
    Andrew is a coherent writer but his views are a tad simplistic. Perhaps a work-in-progress?
    If it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, waddles like a duck...

    It's probably a duck.

    Or in this case, pro-feminist as he certainly relies on a lot of pro-feminist claims, terminologies & mentalities (just look at how he views mutilation of male genitals).


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    ...a very small number of women that kill their babies after birth...

    ...if malice were behind the infanticides, but I do not think so.
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    Takes time my friend...

    Did you or I suddenly wake up one morning and think, "I've got this feminism scam figured out. It's just like selling the Eiffel Tower to a tourist!!"?

    Or did it take a painful decade or two of life-experience??
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    It actually hit me quite hard when the realisation did set in...
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    I'm just astonished how Andrew regularly takes leave of his senses and posts such disjointed liberal crap which has no basis in reality. The average MRA on the forum takes pride in being very methodical about facts and research. I can't recall a single response, beyond 'feelings' and 'emotionalism' whereby hard manly facts have been cited by him.

    I'm sure he's a splendid fellow, but traversing throughout lifes confused journey, I'm left with the distinct impression Andrew holds no discernible ideas beyond regurgitating outdated wishy washy liberal nonsense.
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    I disagree.

    The whole abortion industry is fueled by ideological malice.
    This may be so; but I was referring only to the state of the average women that decides to abort/kill her baby, and making the comparison between abortion and infanticide i.e. arguing that if the infanticides were malicious, but not the abortions, I might validly focus on the former, but I don't agree.

    I have no idea how this is considered a liberal idea; I don't place myself on the conventional political spectrum at all. It's mainly an illusion supported by the mainstream to convince us that there really is a meaningful difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. To the extent it is real, I don't see that men's rights should necessarily be placed on the right.

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