Quote from Garak

If most women understood this, they would be less likely to refer to men as the selfish gender.

Interesting how, without trying to make women look selfish, you have done just that by simply telling the truth.

What's wrong with the truth?

Quote from Zuberi

What's wrong with the truth?

The truth is politically incorrect.

Well first of all, men aren't natural born to be rich power hungry assholes like the fork tongued media tells women!

Second, men and women aren't equal in anyway and have different strengths and weaknesses!

Third, When a woman sees a well dressed man the first thing she shouldn't look at is his wallet!!!!

Quote from Garak

The truth is politically incorrect.

MY DICK IS POLITICALLY INCORRECT!!!

Quote from Percy

As with most single sentences, there is much left out. There is a flip-side.

He is given to looking at her and seeing 'her'. He is interested in her, rather than what she does or what she has done or might do in the world.

She on the other hand is often looking at what he does and did and might do in the world instead of at 'him'.

He is far more 'personal' than she is, generally.

She seeks to 'marry up'. To attain what he can bring. He marries her for who she is.

That aspect of not seeing him firstly as a person (as a default position determined by her nature) is often projected onto him as a form of 'blame' for some inagined and imposed deficit on his part.

What does it mean if a woman marries "down"? Or has a pattern of involvement with men like that?

I don't think the majority of women marry guys for their money. I can understand why men might think it...but it's not true. Most guys don't make that much money so how can it be true? Only a few are well off. There are gold diggers...no doubt. Since there are more rich men than women, it makes sense that there are more female gold diggers than male ones...but male ones do exist, just as rich females exist!

Quote from Zuberi

MY DICK IS POLITICALLY INCORRECT!!!

Quote from TERA

What does it mean if a woman marries "down"? Or has a pattern of involvement with men like that?

I don't think the majority of women marry guys for their money. I can understand why men might think it...but it's not true. Most guys don't make that much money so how can it be true? Only a few are well off. There are gold diggers...no doubt. Since there are more rich men than women, it makes sense that there are more female gold diggers than male ones...but male ones do exist, just as rich females exist!

Marrying up does not have a dollar value threshold. For example, a man need not make a certain amount of money before it is considered "marrying up".

If for example a woman who makes nothing marries a man who makes min wage, that is marrying up...is it not?

A man making min wage may also allow that women to stay home. They won't be rich but she is still freeloading.

Include those women in the marrying up category and you will see it is more common.

Quote from Zuberi

Well first of all, men aren't natural born to be rich power hungry assholes like the fork tongued media tells women!

Second, men and women aren't equal in anyway and have different strengths and weaknesses!

Third, When a women sees a well dressed man the first thing she shouldn't look at is his wallet!!!!

I knew a very well off man (a successful attorney) who tried very hard to get down my pants. He flashed his wallet (particularly hundred dollar bills, stacks of them!) frequently...offered to buy me things...tried to get me drunk on very expensive tequila...tried to impress me with his car, and his two houses, and tales of woe about the woman he married who wasn't giving him sex...and how unhappy he was. He tried it all. When his wealth didn't get me into bed like he thought it would, he tried sob stories (trying to make me feel sorry for him). He was a bad man to do that. I was vulnerable. But not vulnerable enough to be impressed by any of that at all. He was not successful getting me into bed.

He was my bankruptcy lawyer.

There are guys who do this kind of thing...just as there are women who use men for their money!

I'm sick of hearing how it's always men who are getting taken advantage of ...it's so not true.

Quote from TERA

I'm sick of hearing how it's always men who are getting taken advantage of ...it's so not true.

We men are sick of the biases against us.

Quote from TERA

What does it mean if a woman marries "down"? Or has a pattern of involvement with men like that?

I don't think the majority of women marry guys for their money. I can understand why men might think it...but it's not true. Most guys don't make that much money so how can it be true? Only a few are well off. There are gold diggers...no doubt. Since there are more rich men than women, it makes sense that there are more female gold diggers than male ones...but male ones do exist, just as rich females exist!

There are actually more rich women than men! (thanks to the fact that they inherit it, rob it in divorces, etc!)..

I think women who marry down are the more controlling ones usually who want poodle boys they can easily dominate, or they just want someone with plenty of time to be "attentive" to them!!

Quote from Garak

We men are sick of the biases against us.

Understood.

I think biases and stereotypes suck...and I esp. don't understand how some people can say "well those stereotypes about your gender are true, but the ones that exist about my gender are false."

It's all bullshit. It hurts people.

Quote from TERA

Understood.

I think biases and stereotypes suck...and I esp. don't understand how some people can say "well those stereotypes about your gender are true, but the ones that exist about my gender are false."

It's all bullshit. It hurts people.

It doesn't hurt me it just feeds my hatred of feminism and uncle sam!

Quote from haahoo

There are actually more rich women than men! (thanks to the fact that they inherit it, rob it in divorces, etc!)..

I think women who marry down are the more controlling ones usually who want poodle boys they can easily dominate, or they just want someone with plenty of time to be "attentive" to them!!

Let's see some reliable stats to back up your claim that there are more rich women than men.

Quote from haahoo

There are actually more rich women than men! (thanks to the fact that they inherit it, rob it in divorces, etc!)..

I think women who marry down are the more controlling ones usually who want poodle boys they can easily dominate, or they just want someone with plenty of time to be "attentive" to them!!

Ha ha ha...this is funny (not)...so what you're saying is women who marry down are controlling and want to use men for toys, and women who marry up are gold diggers and want to use men for their money.

So basically, unless a woman makes EXACTLY the same amount of money as a man does in the relationship, she's USING him. Come on now...I'm sure you all can find a way to show that women who make the same amount of money are STILL using him somehow.



You know, it's understandable for men to be sick of biases and negative stereotypes, but trust me, you're not the only ones who are sick of this. I'm hearing a lot of stereotypes about women right here on this thread. Where do you think this gender war came from? How it all started? I think both sides are sick of being stereotyped....sick of blame, tired of the bullshit.

It sucks doesn't it!