I am of the view that 'Logic' is NOT a quality of men at all. It is a tool of mind. And few people are skilled at using it.

Very few.

As much as I hate to,I have to agree with this statement.

On the other hand though,it does seem to me that logic is far more prevailant in men.

Logic,like any other usefull skill is learned from experience.

Actually I've read in an article on Cracked.com that Men are more emotional (and sensitive) than women. you (you Westerners) rarely hear of these Men largely because of cultural values. But I suspect that logical Men are just more successful in life.
They should teach logic and critical thinking in schools.

Actually I've read in an article on Cracked.com that Men are more emotional (and sensitive) than women.

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Cracked.com.?

Is this not the same organization that has been shaming men lately with their misandrous views?

I'd say that men average more logical than do women, but I don't have a logical argument to put forward, to support this........

......but, it is women, primarily, who buy into shit like horoscopes, believe things because they sound 'good', and so on and so forth. Political correctness may be doing a good job of stifling logical thought amongst men and women; but men still have the upper hand, I'd say. I'd also say that the vast majority of us here could consider ourselves to be relatively-logical thinkers; hating feminism is a very logical thing....

I'd also say that the vast majority of us here could consider ourselves to be relatively-logical thinkers; hating feminism is a very logical thing....

antimisandry.com Logical men and emotional women

'Hating' is wholly an emotional thing, shirley?

All logic goes out of the window when a gentleman notices a fine looking lady who looks like she could be ready for the in out..

Most of the seemingly illogical things men do are a result of the logical consequences of being male and being geared to loving females.

Most of the seemingly illogical things women do are a result of them knowing that they will, as a logical consequence of the above male logical system, be cared for anyway by men even if what they are doing does not work out rosy..

Men look to mount NAWALT where that perfect exceptional woman exists in their dreams.

They meet vast numbers of women who claim to be from the land of NAWALT but have never met one that actually is..

Logically they should deduce that every woman who claims to be from NAWALT, is more likely to be NOT from NAWALT..

So, next time you hear a woman say "Not all women are like that", the correct answer is not so much "Indeed, some are even worse", but "those who say that, always are.."..

Why?

Because the perfect woman does not try and trick a man by claiming or implying that she is different, or claiming that any significant proportion of women are different, by any blatant or subtle ways..

Thats logic..

Women know that "all men want from women is sex"..

Men deny it, because its clearly ridiculous..

I don't know any man (other than myself) who spends more time having sex with any individual woman than doing other things with her.

I believe there is simply logic that both sex's can look at and see the reality of..

Whether or not the want to, or care to, when lies and deciet serve better, is another question..

Logic is a mathematical concept.

There are far more men engaged in mathematical subjects based on the rules of logic than women.

So either men are better at it, or better suited to it, than women..

Or its some patriarchal conspiracy or something..

And thats just illogical..

Now, before anyone starts whining (emotional word.. sure to get some backs up!).. about "you cant generalise".. Let me show youse something I found in No Maam last night, which better explains why we MUST generalise to ever make any valid points than I ever could..

NO MA'AM


FRIDAY, APRIL 20, 2012
On Generalizations




I sometimes wonder where the argument “you can’t generalize” comes from.


Isn’t this the most idiotic idea in the world?


And it escapes from people’s lips without even a thought of what they are doing or saying.


Of course you can generalize. In fact, you must generalize. To fail to generalize is to demand that all things must only be regarded in terms of the lowest common denominator. The lowest common denominator doesn’t particularly lead to the highest pinnacles we can achieve, does it?


The “you can’t generalize” zealots don’t seem to have really thought things through very well. They are thinking one-dimensionally. A more complex, and more proper way of thinking is that “there are individual groups and there are individuals within those groups.”


For example, saying something like “women have larger breasts than men” is a sweeping generalization. But, it is a true one – even though some women have smaller breasts than some men. In the collective group of “women” there will be some individual women who have small breasts, while in the collective group of “men” there will be some porky men sporting a set of man-boobs. But only an idiot would try to cherry pick a flat chested woman and stand her next to a man-boobed male and claim that this is in any way a reflection of human intellectualism, therefore, we should not say that “women have larger breasts than men” anymore. It is lunacy! The only thing we might be able to learn then is that “both men and women have nipples.” Wow! Stop everything right there! The Tower of Babel is already reaching into the heavens! What more could we possibly learn?


Generalizations are absolutely necessary in order to learn anything.


Of course, what one cannot do is take one individual and generalize that the entire group resembles that individual. Take Marc Lepine, for example. Feminists have been screeching for over two decades now that Marc Lepine is “proof” of the murderous hatred men harbour for women. Now that is pure lunacy. The actions of one man is in no way a reflection of the mentality of the 15,000,000 other men who live in Canada. That is a wrong generalization.


But, to say that men are taller or heavier than women? Yes, this is a proper generalization, because the majority of men are taller and heavier than the majority of women – even though in some individual cases, you will be able to see a taller or heavier woman than a man.


We generalize that “birds fly.” But oh my gosh! You can’t generalize like that! Don’t you know that Emus, Ostriches, Kiwis and Penguins don’t fly? This is such a lame argument, and it ought to be obvious even to the simplest of simpletons that any biologist worth his salt must necessarily generalize that “birds fly.” Look up, grasshopper… not down!


Many of the arguments that get put forward in regard to sensitive issues (like the War of the Sexes) automatically get dismissed with the intellectually retarded retort, “you can’t generalize like that.”


Nonsense.


In fact, no-one is going to figure out one damn thing about anything if they fail to generalize. Ignoring the similar actions/traits/situations in 80% of the cases because 20% of the cases do not coincide… well… how is that gonna make you smarter? Huh?


The thing to keep in mind is that there are individual groups (ie. men and women), and there are individuals within those groups.


The way to learn something is to recognize that the trait of the group follows in “this” direction, even though there are individual exceptions which follow “that” direction.


It’s time to stop looking for the lowest common denominator.


Tell people who use the “generalizing argument” to shut the hell up. In general, those people don’t have two brain cells to rub together and aren’t worth listening to anyways.


There are individual groups, and there are individuals within those groups.


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"Meanwhile, as long as there's one honest woman living at the temple atop Mount NAWALT in Tibet..." -- White Knight

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I'd also say that the vast majority of us here could consider ourselves to be relatively-logical thinkers; hating feminism is a very logical thing....

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'Hating' is wholly an emotional thing, shirley?

There is a logic to emotions as you know percy.. Which I guess can be used to break the damaging cycles within them.. Isn't that the basis of CBT?

One can have an emotional reaction to a conclusion they reach logically.

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One can have an emotional reaction to a conclusion they reach logically.

Not everyone will like it though.. When men get emotional tears don't change much and fists get you arrested.. Emotions WORK for women, but tend to fail for men.. That more than anything will create a pattern that sees men seeking to control their emotions and react more logically, and women realising they can often succeed with tears and emotions so do not not to excercise the logic lobes.. Femilogic.. If it gets what you want right now, then the long term will take care of itself..

What is logic?

One could say more men are logical because more are inclined to think ahead when solving mechanical errors. However you put a guy in front of a cute girl and she is often the more logical. In my own experience logic is not a gendered thing. I honestly know more guys who use analysis and reason in an argument whereas, women (much more so than the men I know) use emotion and feeling to persuade (and even manipulate or control) their opponent which may be where the sterotype comes from.


However analysis is only part of logic and emotional positions often use it (albeit it differently). Also the schools love to unify the concepts of logic, common sense, smartness, and critical thinking, when they are 4 different concepts.

To me, logic is the ability to foresee/predict an event or action based on the evidence, intellect, the ability to decipher information as true/false/neither based on the evidence. Common sense is well... common sense! Ie: what the majority of smart people would do in a situation, using the mindset of the general population. Smartness is taking information learned and using it how one learned to use it. Critical thinking is the ability to determine weather the evidence provided is of substance true/false, necessary. As the schools are combining the 4 concepts, the students they churn out come out as fools. Part of the reason feminism is where it is is because the lack of logic in the schools...


Someone once said that knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad...


While I personally know more logical men then women (precious few) the gap between which gender is more logical is almost invisible compared to the amount of people who are illogical of either gender. In addition who said women were more emotional? The majority of emotional people I know that are very emotional are men...

I think it is never so easy to see the main psychological differences between men and women if you are part of a group of folks that is constantly pretending they don't really exist..

Your post was long, but this was true:

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Men deny it, because its clearly ridiculous..

Sometimes a man doesn't respond because there is no logical reasoning behind the accusation to form a response to.


In response to the original topic, biological a woman's brain is more connected to her emotions, and conversely, a man's is less connected. In this manner, a man is more capable at coming to a rational answer to a problem than a woman is. However, a woman would be more capable of understanding empathy.

Woman and man - two sides of a coin, opposite hands, inversions of each other.

Logic is a mathematical concept.

Since when?

Logic is a tool of mind and can be used by mathematics.

Let us not confuse rationality with logic. Nor cause and effect. Nor simple progression.

Logic is concerned with inevitability, truth (as in validity) and thought construction.

Logic has necessary precursors. It relies upon the Major and minor premisses being correct (as in valid).

It is illogical to say "emotions have a logic". It is a poetic phrase, not a valid one.

Logically speaking, I can expect a gent to have some emotional reaction to the shock when he catches another gent in bed with his wife.. Or even over the kitchen table with his wife..

I could even hazard a guess as to what that reaction could be..

Sometimes I even film it to see what a gent would do, normally they fail to see the funny side or the fact that a gent is doing him a favour by proving what sort of wife he has..

If there is no logic to emotions then I guess all the folks who beef at me for what they call sexual depravity (ordinary sex acts being performed with consenting adults) are doing so for totally random reasons.. Emotionalism with no logic..

Thanks percy, you have definately made me feel much happier about myself! Irrational responses definitely defy logic!

Everything is mathematical percy. Mathematics is the backbone of all science.

The lady of the Manor was in bed with the gardener when the Lord came home unexpectedly and found them.

"You are suprised, husband", said the lady.

"No Madam, YOU are suprised: I am astonished".

It is as well to use terms as they are meant to be used.