what needs to be done to win?

[yesterday's Hero]

it is not about wining

it is about re-educating

[shaazam]

the high priestess of this feminist claptrap is Oprah and she is worshiped by a billion feminists

[knight-errant]

Sad Geek is correct taxation is the way. This can only come from unity of action, but we prefer to be picked off one by one. The only thing I'd add to his great idea is we need a media of our own to show everyone what is happening, and not be ignored as the system will hammer the big media if they cover such a story! With out our own media, and redundencies to keep it up, we are likely to see the MSM ignoring those who make the effort. There are many who refuse now, but we don't hear of them much now do we! Even violence will be ignored so action must have coverage or who will know? Men are funding the system, as we keep saying , so stop funding the Medusa system. Sad Geek has the answer here, and with the debt and baby boomers retiring they are screwed if we get enough men to take their money from them.

MGTOWs are already doing this, libertarians would love to do this and those who have left there home countries are also not paying into the system, so we are already doing this in many ways. Let's just formalize it and give people as much tax avoidence stategy if they don't want to go all the way, so they can still help by starving the system.

Now this interests me, guys. Imagine a million people with our internet TV shows on their iPods and our internet radio shows on their PCs. This has become doable if we're committed to it.

Please let's not talk about violence. If we do, not only will we become a terrorist group but we'll be censored for hate speech and lose all contact with one another before you can say Jack Robinson. Fact.

We're the good guys here, remember?

[Dr David Banner]

DONT PAY TAX I love it way to go..................

[Incognito]

Now this interests me, guys. Imagine a million people with our internet TV shows on their iPods and our internet radio shows on their PCs. This has become doable if we're committed to it.

Please let's not talk about violence. If we do, not only will we become a terrorist group but we'll be censored for hate speech and lose all contact with one another before you can say Jack Robinson. Fact.

We're the good guys here, remember?

Agreed!

[bobx23456]

Now this interests me, guys. Imagine a million people with our internet TV shows on their iPods and our internet radio shows on their PCs. This has become doable if we're committed to it.

Please let's not talk about violence. If we do, not only will we become a terrorist group but we'll be censored for hate speech and lose all contact with one another before you can say Jack Robinson. Fact.

We're the good guys here, remember?

Posted by a man with a mega-sword for an avatar.

The topic of this thread is what it takes to win, yet we are prohibited from talking about it.

Thus is the status quo preserved.

Blessings

Bob

[Incognito]

Posted by a man with a mega-sword for an avatar.

The topic of this thread is what it takes to win, yet we are prohibited from talking about it.

Thus is the status quo preserved.

Blessings

Bob

I see there are four people here who voted for violence, fear, and intimidation to be the weapons to be used in this war. What kinds of violence, fear, and intimidation are we talking about here? Terrorism? Bombs? Assassinations? And who would this violence be perpetrated against, may I ask?

[Incognito]

You wanted to talk about it, let's talk about it.

[Incognito]

I see there is now five people who pose a threat to the safety and security of this site and the men's movement in general, and all that it stands for. Let's get this out in the open, shall we?

[knight-errant]

Posted by a man with a mega-sword for an avatar.

The topic of this thread is what it takes to win, yet we are prohibited from talking about it.

Thus is the status quo preserved.

Blessings

Bob

I'm not a pacifist. I just can't see a few MR activists smashing shop windows as getting many people on side to be honest with you.

[Incognito]

If MRA's start doing those things they will undoubtedly destroy the credibility and support for the entire movement. Anyone who advocates violence is a liability, as far as I'm concerned.

[Incognito]

I cannot speak for Marx, but I will say that if I was the owner or administrator of this site, the last thing I would want are members who advocate violence. Suppose some of MRA's or members (even just ONE) go out and commit an act of violence against feminists or the government, or law enforcement...and is tracked back to this site by the FBI. (Think it can't happen? Think again.) If I were the owner or administrator of this site I would not 1) want blood on my hands, 2) would not want any type of connection to a violent activist, 3) would not want to be held even partially responsible for the violent act. Knowing there are people who advocate violence in our midst is not a comforting thought. I think it's one to be taken very seriously.

Just my opinion here.

[bobx23456]

I cannot speak for Marx, but I will say that if I was the owner or administrator of this site, the last thing I would want are members who advocate violence. Suppose some of MRA's or members (even just ONE) go out and commit an act of violence against feminists or the government, or law enforcement...and is tracked back to this site by the FBI. (Think it can't happen? Think again.) If I were the owner or administrator of this site I would not 1) want blood on my hands, 2) would not want any type of connection to a violent activist, 3) would not want to be held even partially responsible for the violent act. Knowing there are people who advocate violence in our midst is not a comforting thought. I think it's one to be taken very seriously.

Just my opinion here.

You are a feminist and avowed supporter of the blue gun thugs. Your opinion is right out of their book. No surprise there.

Blessings

Bob

[bobx23456]

I'm not a pacifist. I just can't see a few MR activists smashing shop windows as getting many people on side to be honest with you.

Crystal Nacht was very effective. But that was advocating for some other cause.

Perhaps you are right. But I see Islamics getting what they want.

Blessings

Bob

[yesterday's Hero]

I personally do not like the idea of using the term "how do we win"

To win there must be a confrontation of sorts I would rather that we use the term -" How do we find the correct balance "

Winning as said before implies confrontation, which then will cause a backlash and people will clam up and refuse to open their minds to the truth because in a confrontation there is winners and losers - no one wants to loose because to loose implies that something that you have will be taken from you by force.

I like Ghandi's style he used in obtaining independance from UK, this was non-violent non compliance

Withdrawing from society is not a good idea - the ghost nation will then as its name implies neither be seen or heard.

Rather non compliance with societies accepted and expected ideals and norms while still active in it is more to my liking

eg: when questioned why are you not married
response: Modern society has allowed the justice system to evolve marriage into serfdom for men, where they have no rights only obligations that can be enforced by imprisonment, financial insolvency etc etc

I am sure you all get the idea

If as a movement we could standardise a set of responses/statements to the critical questions and issues which would be used by all MRA's then in this respect we create unity across the board.

As more MRA's use the standard response it is heard over and over and over again and as as Arthur Schopenhauer said

- "All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is
accepted as being self-evident. "

The theory and practice of propaganda will work but the difference is we will be spreading truths rather than lies

How does propaganda work - by appealing to the lowest common denominator and hence the masses.

More young men must be informed at a earlier age what could lay ahead of them. Somehow they must be set free from the shackles that have been put on them by the feminazis, political correctness, lame stream media etc.

Unfortunately it is difficult to find an effective way to educate these young testosterone fueled victims in waiting of the war on men that they should not think with their dick and to rebuke the so called "pussy power" that many women like to use to advantage. The best I have seen so far is the visual poster art many MRA's have produced ( see the below example I have attached )

These images need to be made more and more visible to more people as images will be more effective than words - ask any advertising exec.

We need to educate the greater public that the MRM is not about getting the women out of the corporate board rooms and back into the kitchen, but rather it is about true equality that being

equality with regard to laws
equality with regards to employment ( no affirmitive action)
equality with health ( equel $$$ from Governments on male and female specific health issues)

and this is just to name a few