Men in other cultures/religions

[FFFF]

5 or 7 days + 12 = 17 or 19 days without sex for Jewish men.
That a long time for a young man to go without.

I'm thinking that maybe that a Jewish marriage isn't very attractive to a young male.

Well, thats an answer to my question.. a bit of sexual poverty perhaps?.. may as well get to the bank, they have better interest rates!!
As for the Jewish gent getting married, I guess the Orthodox ones dont approve of pre-maritals?
So, owt is better than nowt as they say!
My experience of jewish mothers has been that they make good housewives..
Indeed, I had a Jewish housekeeper once..
Shagged her far too much though, she never got any work done..!
She was also blonde.. wierd eh?

[IronLady]

I happen to agree with you..

It certainly never did the Jews any harm!!

I often ask the question..

"When was the last time you saw a poor Jew"?

Actually, I see a lot of them one Sunday out of each month. That's when our family volunteers for the Jewish Relief Agency here, which distributes food parcels to low income Jews in our city.

As for Jewish blondes, my youngest daughter and my son are both blondes (but you can blame my husband's Scandinavian ancestry for that!

[FFFF]

Actually, I see a lot of them one Sunday out of each month. That's when our family volunteers for the Jewish Relief Agency here, which distributes food parcels to low income Jews in our city.

As for Jewish blondes, my youngest daughter and my son are both blondes (but you can blame my husband's Scandinavian ancestry for that!

So the rumours that they are all rich bankers are clearly not founded then!
I always though that the jewish families were really tightknit.. Would have thought this in itself would be a recipe for wealthier lives..

[Kargan303]

Yeah, that's sort of it. In the Old Testament, a marriage is regarded as consummated once sex takes place...and the guy has to give the girl's father a "bride price". In modern Orthodox Jewish weddings, he gives her a gold wedding ring, which is the modern equivalent of money.

That is why in the Jewish wedding ritual, the man gives the wife a ring, but she does not give him one...because HE is acquiring a wife, SHE is not taking the husband, if you know what I mean.

Very intresting if that is the case then I wonder why in christain weedings that both men and women give each other rings.

Perhapps it's to symbloize that they are of equal vaule to each other as well is to afirme their comittment to each other and of forsaking all others as their primary love in their lives.

Now Annete corect me if I worng but what does the Jewish faith say about King Solomon with all his wives and conqubines?

[FFFF]

Very intresting if that is the case then I wonder why in christain weedings that both men and women give each other rings.

Perhapps it's to symbloize that they are of equal vaule to each other as well is to afirme their comittment to each other and of forsaking all others as their primary love in their lives.

Now Annete corect me if I worng but what does the Jewish faith say about King Solomon with all his wives and conqubines?

Well, I dont know what anyone else would say, but he was either a lucky bugger or had some fucking serious earache..

[Kargan303]

Well, I dont know what anyone else would say, but he was either a lucky bugger or had some fucking serious earache..

I hear you on that, it makes me wonder how such men who have had herems, more then one wife and conqubines managed to blance it all out, let alone see to the needs of his women like that.

[IronLady]

Very intresting if that is the case then I wonder why in christain weedings that both men and women give each other rings.

Perhapps it's to symbloize that they are of equal vaule to each other as well is to afirme their comittment to each other and of forsaking all others as their primary love in their lives.

Now Annete corect me if I worng but what does the Jewish faith say about King Solomon with all his wives and conqubines?

I was always puzzled because Gentile men in my neighborhood growing up had wedding rings on. I never saw any Jewish men with them, because in Judaism, the male does not get a ring as part of the ceremony..the man is regarded as taking a bride, not the other way around.

Plus, jewelry is regarded as a feminine garment, and according to Deut 22:5, men and women are not to put on the garments of the other.

As for King Solomon (and all the other polygamists of the Bible), he at least never had to go without getting laid when he wanted to but truthfully, many of his wives were obtained due to treaties with enemy nations, etc...they were given as a prize or whatever.

[Yan Yan]

I was always puzzled because Gentile men in my neighborhood growing up had wedding rings on. I never saw any Jewish men with them, because in Judaism, the male does not get a ring as part of the ceremony..the man is regarded as taking a bride, not the other way around.

Plus, jewelry is regarded as a feminine garment, and according to Deut 22:5, men and women are not to put on the garments of the other.

As for King Solomon (and all the other polygamists of the Bible), he at least never had to go without getting laid when he wanted to but truthfully, many of his wives were obtained due to treaties with enemy nations, etc...they were given as a prize or whatever.

Exchanging of rings seems to have been an early feminist tactic - they went for the symbols first. It was practically unkown in Europe before the 1960s. Before that a wedding ring on a woman signified that she was married and therefore unavailable to freelancing predatory males.

In Ancient Rome women wore a 'phallus' necklace. If the phallus pointed up or down, it was a badge that informed opportunist males of the risks they would run if they wanted to 'get to know her'.

Annette, I admire your efforts to understand modern "Christianity". Don't waste your time - it's defunct.
Yes, there are plenty of 'revivalists' but liike 'Islamists' they are more political than religious. They jump on the spiritual platform to make self-serving speeches. Sound familiar?

I recall a very old Irish song:

"A love of the women t'is sure it's no crime. The son of King David had ten thousand wives, but his wisdom was highly regarded!"

[Kargan303]

I was always puzzled because Gentile men in my neighborhood growing up had wedding rings on. I never saw any Jewish men with them, because in Judaism, the male does not get a ring as part of the ceremony..the man is regarded as taking a bride, not the other way around.

Plus, jewelry is regarded as a feminine garment, and according to Deut 22:5, men and women are not to put on the garments of the other.

As for King Solomon (and all the other polygamists of the Bible), he at least never had to go without getting laid when he wanted to but truthfully, many of his wives were obtained due to treaties with enemy nations, etc...they were given as a prize or whatever.

I see thanks for explaining that but I wondered if Solomon realy loved all his wives and conqubines, if me have more then one wife would be fun for a little while then it would be bloody hell trying to remember all the anvercies and birthdays and so on, but then again of was a rat basterd I would not care about them but I can't enjoy a relationship unless the women I love feels loved by me and I feel loved by her. so I guess I'm pretty much a one women man, damn that sucks! Hehehehehehe

[IronLady]

I see thanks for explaining that but I wondered if Solomon realy loved all his wives and conqubines, if me have more then one wife would be fun for a little while then it would be bloody hell trying to remember all the anvercies and birthdays and so on, but then again of was a rat basterd I would not care about them but I can't enjoy a relationship unless the women I love feels loved by me and I feel loved by her. so I guess I'm pretty much a one women man, damn that sucks! Hehehehehehe

Well, it says in the Bible that Solomon's pagan wives led him into idolatry...so maybe he did love them. He'd have to if he followed their pagan beliefs as King of Israel!

[FFFF]

I see thanks for explaining that but I wondered if Solomon realy loved all his wives and conqubines, if me have more then one wife would be fun for a little while then it would be bloody hell trying to remember all the anvercies and birthdays and so on, but then again of was a rat basterd I would not care about them but I can't enjoy a relationship unless the women I love feels loved by me and I feel loved by her. so I guess I'm pretty much a one women man, damn that sucks! Hehehehehehe

Indeed..

I think women are like money..

You have a need and use for only so much...

After that, its just for playing status games and monopoly with..

[Kargan303]

Well, it says in the Bible that Solomon's pagan wives led him into idolatry...so maybe he did love them. He'd have to if he followed their pagan beliefs as King of Israel!

Good point Annette and it must be hard to put God before your earthly love(husband/wife/kids), how do you deal with such a conflict?

[Kargan303]

Indeed..

I think women are like money..

You have a need and use for only so much...

After that, its just for playing status games and monopoly with..

LOL good point Drex but I think it's safe to say the women is men in muh the same light give how they treat men as a walking ATM

[IronLady]

Good point Annette and it must be hard to put God before your earthly love(husband/wife/kids), how do you deal with such a conflict?

For me, G-d always comes first. He was helping and protecting me before I was even born (through a series of circumstances, He kept my mother from aborting me, and he saved my life at times when realistically, I should have died.) For me, G-d has been there for me when I really needed Him.

[Kargan303]

For me, G-d always comes first. He was helping and protecting me before I was even born (through a series of circumstances, He kept my mother from aborting me, and he saved my life at times when realistically, I should have died.) For me, G-d has been there for me when I really needed Him.

I hear what you are saying Annette, God brought me back from the dead on more then one occation and I'm not talking about near death I'm talking about " Stick a fork in his a** he's done for. " dead and he's saved my life on many occations and as of late he's been there for me when things were getting hairy scary a little while ago and for the most part my life has been fairly peaceful that's to Him.