WHY YOU'RE HERE ( tell your story)

[Lady Catherine]

Fair enough.

[Douglas]

I'm here because I've heard some of that "girl talk" women are always having in whispers 3 feet away. I'm here because I know the type of things women say about their long-suffering husbands when they're off busting their asses to put food on the table. It isn't pretty.

Indeed it isn't. While it tends to be common, is this caused by feminism, or is this one of those instances of misandry that's always been around, just like those groups of men sitting in a pub putting women down? I've always wondered why so many women support other women nagging about their man: is it because there own lives are shit and they just want to feel they're not the only one too lazy to improve it? I recall a time when a girlfriend of mine was the recipient of another woman's grumbling about her boyfriend; my girlfriend just snapped at her to shut up and talk over the problems with boyfriend, or if she can't be bothered to work on her relationship properly, then to get the hell out of his life so he can find someone who will seek the positive in him. I think that works either way around and is so correct.

"Sic semper tyrannis"

Certainly but also "nil carborundum illegitamae"

I hope you'll sign up and be a regular part of the solution.

Politicians are not our friends, they are the root cause of all of the worlds problems.

In a democracy, if politicians are a problem, it's the fault of the voters for putting them there. The buck stops at the top - and the top isn't the most senior politician but the people who control his being there.

The voters need to wake up to priorities and stop wondering whether one party or another might tax them an extra hundred or two per year - and start looking for someone who will protect the interests of all people in society, whatever their gender. Trust me, once you've lost your children, home and business to a corrupt divorce and custody system, the idea of worrying who might put an extra penny on income tax is ridiculously unimportant.

[Chris Wedge]

In a democracy, if politicians are a problem, it's the fault of the voters for putting them there. The buck stops at the top - and the top isn't the most senior politician but the people who control his being there.

The voters need to wake up to priorities and stop wondering whether one party or another might tax them an extra hundred or two per year - and start looking for someone who will protect the interests of all people in society, whatever their gender. Trust me, once you've lost your children, home and business to a corrupt divorce and custody system, the idea of worrying who might put an extra penny on income tax is ridiculously unimportant.

...but what I do believe is that people are flawed, and things never work out the way they planned. Basically, we'll never get it right, but we should never stop trying.

Ties well into what I said. The problem with letting the people decide is that they can gravitate toward short-term gains.
The problem with an elite ruling is that they can do the same - and although it's somewhat less likely, the consequences are far worse than they do.

Which is one of the reasons why I advocate a government that keeps out of personal matters but knows that nose of theirs is for keeping business in check. (Well, on top of law enforcement and fair laws.)

[trcy1066@aol.com]

That is the thing "dominant" women are bullheaded, and they think it is all about them. Men don't want dominant women, men want control of their lives, and they want a womans support through love, compassion, and self-sacrifice, not dominance. Men don't want to submit to women, because it is men who have to bust their asses everyday, to make a living and take care of their families, if any of them are lucky enough to have them, and it is men who have kept society afloat since the beginning of time. The last thing a man needs is a woman telling him what to do, and feminists have this notion that they are alpha-divas who walk around acting like their shit doesn't stink, but yet again they contribute nothing to society, and they expect men to take responsibility for their fuck-ups like always.

They have succeeded in drawing a huge wedge between men and women, and men would be wise to stay away from women, if they value their life, freedom, and happiness.

This isn't about feminism, this is about you not liking women fullstop. If we're independent you see us as dominant. If we're good and do as we're told, you accuse us of leaving it all to the men to do. As for busting your ass, have you any idea what goes into raising a family 24 hours a day? I raised 4 kids and had 2 part time jobs that added up to approx. 40 hours a week. Neither of my 2 youngest slept through the night. I was not allowed an independent opinion. I rarely had a night off from getting up to 2 youngest and he would try to make me feel as though I should be grateful on the odd occasion he dained to get up to his own kids. Oh, and I studied in my spare time (what there was of it!), something that made him feel very threatened.

Men like you accuse women of being domineering when all they want is independence. You accuse us of sitting back whilst our men bust their asses when in fact, many women do just as much AND juggle a family. But then, I would imagine someone like you would just accuse a woman like me of stealing a job a man could be doing, tho it was rare seeing a man wiping someone's shitty arse in those days.

Thankfully these days, I'm with someone who appreciates my independence, treats me as an equal and expects nothing but the same in return. Neither of us is more dominant than the other and we both work hard for a living. The fact that one of us earns more than the other has never been an issue. His one gripe with me is that I'm not always very good at accepting support and my one gripe of him is that what he may have in intelligence, he lacks in common sense. We both respect each other and each others need for space.

Maybe it's the way you've worded it, but seems to me that you cannot find a definitive line between being a woman and being a feminist.

[bowspearer]

Maybe it's the way you've worded it, but seems to me that you cannot find a definitive line between being a woman and being a feminist.

No the problem is that as so many of us have recognised about you, you cannot recognise feminism for the blatant source of misandry which it has become (and arguably always was, but tro be fair to feminism ,you need to allow for when the difference between being misandrist and anti-establishment wasn't readily apparent).

No mater how you split it, the legal system has made men having relationships with women a highly perilous affair. Sometimes, very rarely, you get lucky with them, like I have with my current relationship. However should the female partner turn abusive, whether reciprocal or non-reciprocal female-on-male in nature, the law will treat him like the criminal. A similar story applies to divorce where kids can be used all to easily as a handy weapon should it get nasty.

Meanwhile "girl power" has gotten to the point to the point where female-on-male violence has gotten glamourised and the view of men being knuckle-dragging blundering neanderthals is popular in mainstream society.

Expecting men not to be fearful of women in general our current society is a bit like expecting African Americans to not be fearful of white people in some parts of the Southern States of America.

There's a difference between misogyny and self-preservation, ironically entirely due to modern feminism.

[Redpill]

This isn't about feminism, this is about you not liking women fullstop. If we're independent you see us as dominant. If we're good and do as we're told, you accuse us of leaving it all to the men to do. As for busting your ass, have you any idea what goes into raising a family 24 hours a day? I raised 4 kids and had 2 part time jobs that added up to approx. 40 hours a week. Neither of my 2 youngest slept through the night. I was not allowed an independent opinion. I rarely had a night off from getting up to 2 youngest and he would try to make me feel as though I should be grateful on the odd occasion he dained to get up to his own kids. Oh, and I studied in my spare time (what there was of it!), something that made him feel very threatened.

Yeah..... First of all, I never said that independent women were dominant. It is a common fact that women in this day and age walk around thinking their shit don't stink because they make a goddamn paycheck. You are popping shit and looking for a fucking argument! This isn't about you, and you come here looking for someone to feel sorry for your situation, when in all honesty you don't experience half the discrimination that men do in this misandric society. I honestly applaud the fact that you have to make ends meet to take care of your children, but not once did I ever relegate women being independent to women being dominant! Being independent doesn't give a woman an excuse to treat her man like he is beneath her. And you seem to think that women that don't work, and have their husbands working to provide for their family are somehow submissive, and lacking any say in what goes on in their household. The women are the heart of the household, the same way men are the head, and you speak as if women are chained to a stove, and have no rights whatsoever. I am pretty sure many of these housewives pursue lives outside their homes, even when they put their family first. Typical feminist thinking. You are full of shit!

Men like you accuse women of being domineering when all they want is independence. You accuse us of sitting back whilst our men bust their asses when in fact, many women do just as much AND juggle a family. But then, I would imagine someone like you would just accuse a woman like me of stealing a job a man could be doing, tho it was rare seeing a man wiping someone's shitty arse in those days.

The women I accuse are the women who have a feminist mindset, that being the majority of Western women. Men have it much harder in terms of navigating througth this feminised society. I don't give two shits if women want "independence" or they want to be housewives. That is not my problem. Women can do whatever the fuck they want to do, because the only thing I am interested in is advocating freedom for my fellow men and myself. We live in a society where women have more rights than men, and even if women have jobs and support their families, it is men who get the hardest in terms of having to bust his ass and work overtime to pay child support for his children that he will never get to see grow up. Lets not forget that affirmative action, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION is put into place to take jobs away from men, in favor of women, who mind you many of them weren't qualified for alright! That men were predominantly qualified for. Men are stuck in jobs that required them to overexert themselves, and face the risk of serious injury or even death.

Thankfully these days, I'm with someone who appreciates my independence, treats me as an equal and expects nothing but the same in return. Neither of us is more dominant than the other and we both work hard for a living. The fact that one of us earns more than the other has never been an issue. His one gripe with me is that I'm not always very good at accepting support and my one gripe of him is that what he may have in intelligence, he lacks in common sense. We both respect each other and each others need for space.

HOORAY!!! That's good for you, I guess you hit the jackpot.

Maybe it's the way you've worded it, but seems to me that you cannot find a definitive line between being a woman and being a feminist.

I guess it is the way I worded it. I know the difference between a feminist woman and an anti-feminist woman, but even so, many women who claim to fight for mens rights have their own ulterior motives. I don't let my guard down.

No the problem is that as so many of us have recognised about you, you cannot recognise feminism for the blatant source of misandry which it has become (and arguably always was, but tro be fair to feminism ,you need to allow for when the difference between being misandrist and anti-establishment wasn't readily apparent).

No mater how you split it, the legal system has made men having relationships with women a highly perilous affair. Sometimes, very rarely, you get lucky with them, like I have with my current relationship. However should the female partner turn abusive, whether reciprocal or non-reciprocal female-on-male in nature, the law will treat him like the criminal. A similar story applies to divorce where kids can be used all to easily as a handy weapon should it get nasty.

Meanwhile "girl power" has gotten to the point to the point where female-on-male violence has gotten glamourised and the view of men being knuckle-dragging blundering neanderthals is popular in mainstream society.

Expecting men not to be fearful of women in general our current society is a bit like expecting African Americans to not be fearful of white people in some parts of the Southern States of America.

There's a difference between misogyny and self-preservation, ironically entirely due to modern feminism.

Good looking out man. She comes on this site attempting to make it all about her. This is AntiMisandry not AntiMisogyny, even though women in great numbers are victims of feminism themselves, and I will never dispute that fact. This site addresses mens problems, and she comes on here attacking me, saying that I don't like women, and that somehow I am against independent women, like I am supposed to consider them a threat. If anything that is doing us men a favor, because that is one less female we have to carry on our backs. She is a feminist twat anyway, and she can kiss my fucking ass.

[Lady Catherine]

Lets not forget that affirmative action, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION is put into place to take jobs away from men, in favor of women, who mind you many of them weren't qualified for alright! That men were predominantly qualified for.

Slight suggestion: I'd emphasize the were. The boy crisis is very serious and will hurt us all if we don't do something about it.

Men are stuck in jobs that required them to overexert themselves, and face the risk of serious injury or even death.

Where the jobs still remain thanks to leftist tax increases.

Also:

I don't give two shits if women want "independence" or they want to be housewives.

I think we all should have independence, and in the case of those of us in any kind of relationship, the right balance of co-dependence and indepence.

[Redpill]

Slight suggestion: I'd emphasize the were. The boy crisis is very serious and will hurt us all if we don't do something about it.

I agree. Boys in this society are hurt the most, and they aren't allowed to spread their wings, and utilize their full potential. Instead this feminized system shoves pills down boys and young mens throats, and stunts their natural creative process. They aren't allowed to use they're energy in terms of doing something positive. The boys of the next generation are a threat to feminists and their elite masters, which is no coincidence that feminism doesn't allow fathers to be in their sons (and daughters) lives, and instill knowledge, wisdom, and confidence to them. Also many men were or still are qualified for jobs that they were denied, and its a shame.

Where the jobs still remain thanks to leftist tax increases.

The liberals are nothing but scum. They give our jobs to countries overseas, and use taxpayer money to fund welfare programs and Planned Parenthood.

I think we all should have independence, and in the case of those of us in any kind of relationship, the right balance of co-dependence and indepence.

I don't argue with that point. Relationships are supposed to have the balance of co-dependence and dependence.

[Zuberi]

Yeah..... First of all, I never said that independent women were dominant. It is a common fact that women in this day and age walk around thinking their shit don't stink because they make a goddamn paycheck.

You don't have to waste your breath arguing with that drive by troll.
They pull this crap to stay busy. That is why they have no credibility and are often thought of as less than rat shit.

[Lady Catherine]

The liberals are nothing but scum. They give our jobs to countries overseas, and use taxpayer money to fund welfare programs and Planned Parenthood.

I probably said that wrong. I do not like the Left, I am a minarchist(I only vote for the Libertarian party), I blame the tax hikes, job losses, and general state of things on them. The Right isn't much better, but I find them more acceptable than the Left.

[trcy1066]

I'm actually lost for words.... well, almost

First off, just to clear things up... no, I'm not a troll, unfortunately I just don't have the time to read every article there ever was. Secondly, if having a different opinion from you both, Zuberi and Redpill, makes me a feminist, then you know what, I bloody well must be.

And if the only way you can get your opinion across is through the use of abuse and foul language, then you truly must be 'real' men and I bow down to your greater place in the world.

[Redpill]

I'm actually lost for words.... well, almost

First off, just to clear things up... no, I'm not a troll, unfortunately I just don't have the time to read every article there ever was. Secondly, if having a different opinion from you both, Zuberi and Redpill, makes me a feminist, then you know what, I bloody well must be.

And if the only way you can get your opinion across is through the use of abuse and foul language, then you truly must be 'real' men and I bow down to your greater place in the world.

PFFT!!! Abuse and foul language... What are you my wife? And your differing opinion tends to coincide with feminists, and you ignore the misandry that men have to tolerate. And you just realized that you are a feminist.

What have women, more specifically feminist minded women done for society to stand still, besides bitch and moan, and claim how superior they are to men, when they have done nothing to prove their claims. It is men who come up with the innovations that help you live in comfort, and it is men who fight for countries that oppress their own gender! Just face it, if women were strong and independent, they wouldn't bitch about unfair treatment, and they wouldn't take handouts to 1-Up men.

They would do what they had to do, BY THEMSELVES to qualify for employment opportunities, and they would bust their asses, and not rely on government grants to get themelselves into college. And if women were strong and independent, they would show some sort of semblance of compassion and dignity towards their fellow men, instead of being so negative and ungrateful, and nagging for every goddamn little thing, and maybe, JUST MAYBE, men would admire them for their strength and wisdom.

Most women don't even make babies anymore. Just admit it, without your sex and reproductive ability, you women are useless, because that is all you have left, and men are abandoning relationships, sex, and even fatherhood altogether. So yeah, enjoy the Midnight Night to phasing out of existence, because men don't need women anymore, especially your negativity and bullshit. I would rather live out the rest of my days in peace and quiet without having some harpy yelling at me.