Female veterans are apparently more important than male veterans.

**chevalier** · 25th-November-2008

I agree with Rob as well. And would go a step further and say that the "Patriarchy" that feminists complain so bitterly about is not a group of men but very wealthy people that are responsible for holding people down.

**chevalier** · 25th-November-2008

Here is a video tribute to my brave Canadian Brothers.

**Timocrat** · 26th-November-2008

I hope there is some point your need to plug your version of the New World Order will take a back seat to honoring what you must seem as foolish behaviour to go and fight for bankers. Lion men have always fought for fox-personalities, the only difference is the sex of the fox has gone from always being a women to a mix of men and women who are fox-like. The banker's version is only the latest fox to get lions to fight.

I think I might take a similar view in the future now, by plugging how some use people who believe in one of the versions of the NWO to fight to change any topic on any issue to their political vision of this unclear historical record.

I'm working on a serious effort to deal with this, for I'm very tired of all roads leading to the NWO on all issues. I'm sure if we have a group of successful MRA organizations some will say it is part of the NWO too, unless they accept each individual's verion of their NWO, or suffer the label by someone somewhere with some need to trump someone labeling them part of the NWO.

After seeing some US NWO types go after Michelle Malkin, and not any democrats (after failing to get a bank to levitate) suggests the NWO ideas need to be critiqued so they can have a clear voice.

This is the task I've set myself to do, as of late, for it seems to be a rationale to not fight back in some avenues (MRA), while in others it is plugged to fight full steam ahead (NWO). If we can't win, then why bother saying "we can't win" to everyone? Logic dictates that this be pointless, as is stopping the NWO. Does anyone else see the contradiction here?

Unless the real purpose is for some to take credit for saying everything will fail before it happens. This is a British disease which I've seen with every twit, prat and then some. With most actions being met with failure the odds are stacked in the "We can't win favor most of the time". Yet if someone does win one day, as history is filled with those who have won, then the cynic's need to lecture others (with the odds in his favour) will look very odd in deed.

Yet I need to get back to study for I'm swinging at windmills, but I can't resist as defending good men has once again turned into making them to be part fools by some! Honor them or stay clear of some topics. Draft Dodgers that flee with the knowledge of the NWO to back up their nature are not better than Vets who fought and do not know of this theory/fact. So say we all!

**Celtic Druid** · 26th-November-2008

My, what a hearty post Timo (I did understand 'every' element of what you said). I think with myself, as with you, sometimes we prematurely furnish a interpretational expectancy that doesn't necessarily always resonate with those that read our well-intended pieces.

**Timocrat** · 26th-November-2008

Thanks CD for taking the time on that brain twister. I hope you can give me some feed back on my huge effort on the NWO issue, as you are very knowledgeble on that issue.

**Celtic Druid** · 26th-November-2008

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Thanks CD for taking the time on that brain twister. I hope you can give me some feed back on my huge effort on the NWO issue, as you are very knowledgeble on that issue.

Again we are down to subjectiveness. Are you being sarcastic or genuine?

**Timocrat** · 26th-November-2008

Again we are down to subjectiveness. Are you being sarcastic or genuine?-CD

Genuine, of course. You can take apart my effort if that is how you see it, preferably before I make it public (so I can adjust factual mistakes). I'd really prefer for it to be logically taken apart than to be undefeated in my own mind.

It should be done in a month or two if your game. Many of your NWO arguments CD are the most logical and are the ones that hold water with me. I'm not coming at this as "pro" or "Anti", but looking at what I see objectively. My effort wasn't intended to be a bridging of the two wings on this issue, but seems to have ending up there based on the facts. So your going over it would likely help in both getting your NWO ideas more promotion as you would get its weaknesses more exposed (or dealt with) as well. Are you game for a good read?

**chevalier** · 26th-November-2008

I hope there is some point your need to plug your version of the New World Order will take a back seat to honoring what you must seem as foolish behaviour to go and fight for bankers. -Timocrat.

Where you asking me a question or just a question in General?

If you were asking me I am afraid I didn't understand it.

And if it was a question for me could you clarify it for me?

**Timocrat** · 26th-November-2008

No Chev it wasn't directed at you at all. Thanks for checking and not taking in personally. It was more for Rob, I think, who turn us back on to the NWO. The implication, or conclusion, is the men who went and died, or were wounded, in all the past wars were a bit stupid to do so (for they fought for mere Bankers).

Truth does overwhelm honor, but I just don't like to hear the assertion so often when there is doubt to the completeness of the many versions of the NWO. I tire of the constant all roads lead to the NWO( Rome) in threads, as I do Tera's all roads lead to her feelings. Rob's ideas need to be looked at in detail, but not when giving tribute to men who were noble in their risk for their ideals.

When I finish my work on the NWO I'll show you it Chev so you may better understand my Don Quiote moment above. Sorry for the confusion.

**chevalier** · 26th-November-2008

100% agreed.

**musicman.2** · 18th-March-2009

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Yeah it would have been great if those draft dodgers could have been rounded up at the border and sent to do their duty.

The canadian fighting man is a tough and brave sort I have evry respect for every Canadian soldier and sailor I was privileged to meet.

It is sad to exchange the lives of brave men to shelter those who cannot put anything above themselves.

Those who can't put anything above themselves? All women are natural draft dodgers then.

We should spend time trying to get men who don't want to fight when we have a huge number of females we could send? Draft dodgers aren't any worse than women.

**Garak** · 18th-March-2009

I am trying to understand why any man in any western nation would fight to protect it.

**Jack** · 18th-March-2009

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many ex Vietnam veterans ( 60%) developed serious psychological problems - I think it is known as PTSD nowdays but hardly got any succor from the government

More Vietnam vets have committed suicide than were killed in the war itself.

**Jack** · 18th-March-2009

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After reading some of Chev's stories, he's what I'd consider a 'real veteran.' I salute you sir.

+1

While women constitute %3-5 of the homeless vets, they also constitute %10 of the military, so they are already the privileged sex when it comes to the reception of benefits. If all things were equal women would make up %10 f the homeless.

%12 of officers in the military are also women, so they are also over-represented there as well, but I suppose that since women make up %50 of the general population things will only be equal when women make up %50 of the officers regardless of how small a percentage of the military they constitute.

**Rothzael** · 19th-March-2009

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but I suppose that since women make up %50 of the general population things will only be equal when women make up %50 of the officers regardless of how small a percentage of the military they constitute.

Even though it's proven that women aren't nearly as capable when it comes to military operations. I'm not being sexist, a woman (Kate O'Beirne) references this fact in her book.