Do you have any kids?

[Dr.E]

No kids here. Never have and NEVER WILL!

[Yan Yan]

[Sometimes.. after a few glasses, I get the urge to be a little outrageous. Like for example criticizing the US when most of the men that live there would probably agree with me. But you can never be sure. I wake up with a heavy heart as the memory of what I wrote seeps back into the brain. Did I really say that? God forgive me!
But when I get around to logging on the're are 'likes' and supportive comments- it says a lot about the community here.]

Anyway, back to the subject of kids.

Fatherhood is perhaps something like drug-addiction.
For fresh young men, the very idea can seem repellent. Babies are mewling brats that shit themselves and they are always accompanied by mothers who have suddenly turned very demanding and lost their looks and figure to boot.
No young man with ambition and an instinct for self-preservation would want to go there.

But after the first "hit", everything changes. When the big unfocused eyes of a newborn babe gaze confusingly into your own, a hidden part of the male brain is activated. As days and weeks go by, and the pudgy little face starts to display your own features, it's time to let out a blood-curdling maniacal laugh, that would put movie-actors to shame. Frankenstein is just a sordid tale... but I have created life, real life! And by the way, he/she looks like me. I have some pictures here if you interested.... Notice how her eyes a just like mine. She's so bright too. Could hold her own bottle at three months... If that's not a future rocket scientist, I don't know what is! ...... You get the picture.

The celibates among us have a valid point. In western societies, fatherhood is a lose, lose project. But it's the insipiration, or the 'high' of fatherhood that keeps men being creative, hardworking and intent on preserving civilization. Without it we would just play. That's the pay-off from feminism.

[FloatyBoaty]

[Sometimes.. after a few glasses, I get the urge to be a little outrageous. Like for example criticizing the US when most of the men that live there would probably agree with me. But you can never be sure. I wake up with a heavy heart as the memory of what I wrote seeps back into the brain. Did I really say that? God forgive me!
But when I get around to logging on the're are 'likes' and supportive comments- it says a lot about the community here.]

Anyway, back to the subject of kids.

Fatherhood is perhaps something like drug-addiction.
For fresh young men, the very idea can seem repellent. Babies are mewling brats that shit themselves and they are always accompanied by mothers who have suddenly turned very demanding and lost their looks and figure to boot.
No young man with ambition and an instinct for self-preservation would want to go there.

But after the first "hit", everything changes. When the big unfocused eyes of a newborn babe gaze confusingly into your own, a hidden part of the male brain is activated. As days and weeks go by, and the pudgy little face starts to display your own features, it's time to let out a blood-curdling maniacal laugh, that would put movie-actors to shame. Frankenstein is just a sordid tale... but I have created life, real life! And by the way, he/she looks like me. I have some pictures here if you interested.... Notice how her eyes a just like mine. She's so bright too. Could hold her own bottle at three months... If that's not a future rocket scientist, I don't know what is! ...... You get the picture.

The celibates among us have a valid point. In western societies, fatherhood is a lose, lose project. But it's the inspiration, or the 'high' of fatherhood that keeps men being creative, hardworking and intent on preserving civilization. Without it we would just play. That's the pay-off from feminism.

Being a father is definitely something to look forward to. But we're stuck with women who only care about "getting the most out of life" to want to be a mother. I'm pretty sure that being a mother is much the same as you described being a father. For a woman to get the most out of life, she should be a mother; that idea was created by those who just want to use her.

[Yan Yan]

Being a father is definitely something to look forward to. But we're stuck with women who only care about "getting the most out of life" to want to be a mother. I'm pretty sure that being a mother is much the same as you described being a father. For a woman to get the most out of life, she should be a mother; that idea was created by those who just want to use her.

Agreed. She uses men while also being used by others.
But it will be up to men to do all the negotiating for new gender relationships. Men must break the mould.
They could do it tomorrow if they weren't so obsessed about what women (or a female-dominated state) might think.

[Zuberi]

That's the pay-off from feminism.

The pay off from feminism is getting young men to throw away their free will and become hosts.
Too bad, the trouts aren't getting the results they wanted.

Being a father is definitely something to look forward to.

The young men of this generation, have no reason to become fathers and power the hamster wheel that brings in the next generation of tax paying slaves.

[FloatyBoaty]

The young men of this generation, have no reason to become fathers and power the hamster wheel that brings in the next generation of tax paying slaves.

Being a father and being a husband can be two different things. And it depends on what kind of person the woman is.

[Celtic Druid]

[Sometimes.. after a few glasses, I get the urge to be a little outrageous. Like for example criticizing the US when most of the men that live there would probably agree with me. But you can never be sure. I wake up with a heavy heart as the memory of what I wrote seeps back into the brain. Did I really say that? God forgive me!
But when I get around to logging on the're are 'likes' and supportive comments- it says a lot about the community here.

You're not alone Yan Yan, sometimes the debate is stirred up by some influence, otherwise, lets be honest, it'll be duller than a funeral.

I've nothing against that which lubricates the voice of the disempowered. You sir, as a gifted orator should never apologize for whatever thing which allows your voice to be better heard.

Being a member here for so long, I definitely notice when members are imbued with some libation. It seems to mostly improve proceedings.

[Dr.E]

Being a father is definitely something to look forward to.

Such as?

[FloatyBoaty]

Such as?

Being a dad.

[Zuberi]

Being a dad.

Unfortunately, that endeavor far too risky to endorse.