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30th-June-2008 #16
Re: Reaction To Women Abusing Men In Public
I'd like to say that I'm shocked or surprised, but I'm not. Feminism has set women up as perpetual victims in our society and men as perpetual aggressors. In any physical confrontation between a man and woman, by the majority of people, the man will be viewed as the villain, regardless of who the true aggressor is.
"Every noble impulse, every unselfish expression of love; every brave suffering for the right; every surrender of self to something higher than self; every loyalty to an ideal; every unselfish devotion to principle; every helpfulness to humanity; every act of self-control; every fine courage of the soul, undefeated by pretense or policy, but by being, doing, and living of good for the very good’s sake—that is spirituality." -David O. McKay
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12
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30th-June-2008 #17
Re: Reaction To Women Abusing Men In Public
Disclaimer:The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,but only misandry--whether from females or from males.If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.Glenn Sacks
http://antimisandry.com/109272-post69.html
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6th-November-2008 #18
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http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Story?id=2741047&page=1Turning the Tables
How Do People React When There's Abuse in Public, But the Gender Roles are Reversed? How Would You React?
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On previous shows, "Primetime" has staged scenes of abuse in which the man is the aggressor, and the woman is the victim. And in these situations, passersby -- men and women -- often stepped up and intervened. So producers were curious. What would happen if the tables were turned, and the man was suddenly the victim? Would people be just as willing to come to his defense?
This staged scenario happens more often in real life than you may think. According to Colgate University psychology professor Carrie Keating, women abusing, even assaulting their male partners "is a big problem in this country."
"There are some data that suggest that women actually hit more than men do," says Keating. "Men create more damage, but women hit more than men do."
A report prepared for the Centers for Disease Control estimates that each year there are over 800,000 serious cases of men being physically abused by women. But the actual figures are believed to be much higher, since many men are often too embarrassed to admit being the victim of abuse by a woman.
Even professional athletes, with their macho reputations, have alleged abuse. In 2002, Major League pitcher Chuck Finley's wife, actress Tawny Kitaen, was arrested and jailed after he accused her of pummeling him, causing bruises and abrasions. She pleaded not guilty, and charges were dropped after she agreed to attend anger management classes.
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One after another, passersby witnessed the abusive scene… and kept right on going.
Mathilda was one of those bystanders. She says she didn't think the man was in any physical danger, and could probably take care of himself. "I didn't immediately think to protect the man at all," she said. "It didn't look like any harm was being done."
The reaction of another woman, Lynda, was stunning. As our actress continued to heap abuse on her make-believe boyfriend, she walked by the scene and pumped her fist in a show of sisterly solidarity.
"Good for you. You Go, Girl!" is how Lynda recalls her reaction.
"I was thinking he probably did something really bad," she said. "Maybe she caught him cheating or something like that…and [it] made her lose it and slap him in the face. I reacted like, 'Yes. Woman power.'"
This type of reaction didn't come as a surprise to Keating. Observers often excuse their "own lack of response by denigrating the victim and making up stories that he really deserved the punishment he was receiving," Keating says.
She says that perhaps these people have some past frustration in their lives which makes them "actually enjoy vicariously the experience this woman was having by being aggressive" toward her boyfriend.
'Old-Fashioned Views'
Later, a husband and wife out for some exercise observed the abusive situation and continued on their way. So "Primetime's" producers stepped in and asked, "Why not stop or at least call 911?"
"What they were havin' there…[they were] just havin' a little tiff. They'll be all right," said the man, a police officer in a nearby community. His wife told "Primetime" that she would have found it "more upsetting if [the young man] had put his hands on" the young woman."
"Oh, without a doubt," her husband readily agreed, acknowledging the double standard. "Call it old-fashioned views. If you're raised the way I was raised, you don't put your hands on a woman, right?"
Keating says that holding those kinds of values and beliefs "is going to give them a very different lens through which they see the behavior of the actress, the aggressiveness of the woman against the man. They under-value the potency of her responses."
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Over two days of taping, "Primetime" watched 163 people just walk right by the actors – the abusive woman and her boyfriend. Of all those who had the chance to step up and get involved, only one group of women stopped.
After taking time to assess the situation, these women -- four of them -- gathered at a distance to assess the situation. They then sent an emissary to offer the fighting couple some assistance.
But when the actress replied that "this is not your business," the woman respectfully walked away.
But while the first woman was attempting to engage the couple, one of the other women, Clare, was calling 911 from her cell phone.
"I'm in Leonia Park, and there are two people fighting on a bench," she reported. "She's …beatin' him up and I was wondering if somebody could come and just check it out?" (The police were aware of the hidden camera experiment).
The fact that the abuser was a woman did not matter to Clare and the other women with her. They said they just knew they had to do something.
"She was a little out of control," said Clare.
"I was concerned for both their safety," another woman said.
Another member of the group, Donna, recalls "trying to assess the situation before we reacted."
Avoiding Regrets
Keating found this group of concerned women to be "an interesting collective. In a sense they verify the sort of cognitive steps we all go through whenever we see a situation that conveys some sort of ethical dilemma: 'Should we respond or not'?"
"They saw it as requiring intervention," she said. "They stepped up to take responsibility. They collected as a group and tried to figure out what to do and actually put into place a plan of action where they could be of help."
Ah yes one of the most important articles on violence against mails....Bumb this thread up I say!Disclaimer:The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,but only misandry--whether from females or from males.If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.Glenn Sacks
http://antimisandry.com/109272-post69.html
Blog:
http://feck-blog.blogspot.com/
Fecks Warcraft File:
http://antimisandry.com/chit-chat-ma...ile-16039.html
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6th-November-2008 #19
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I just saw a bit of the Jerry Springer show today. In it there was a guy...a woman he cheated with who was in a lesbian relationship, the other lesbian, and the guy's fiance.
All three of the woman punched and kicked the man. And the Lesbians attacked each other a lot, in fact that was about neck and neck with all the attacks on the man from the different woman.
The guy did not hit or do any offense at all, just defensive moves like covering his head, leaning back, and moving away.
Meanwhile the audience cheered and was not upset at the violence.
I bet if the guy punched one of the woman then the reaction would change.
I don't want anyone attacking anyone...and if they do, I want the consequences to be the same for everyone.Ridgefield, Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way, Universe, Creation
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6th-November-2008 #20
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What I find so disturbing about this is the attitude behind this. You don´t hit back and they see you as a wimp. I have the feeling that they actually forget that the man is probably stronger given the average 50% more upper body strength.
When he hits back, I am sure they will switch to victim mode in no time. This goes from one extreme to the other with an blink of an eye.Disclaimer:The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,but only misandry--whether from females or from males.If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.Glenn Sacks
http://antimisandry.com/109272-post69.html
Blog:
http://feck-blog.blogspot.com/
Fecks Warcraft File:
http://antimisandry.com/chit-chat-ma...ile-16039.html
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One of the reasons for lack of empathy for male victims of d/v is that feminism has promoted the worse case scenarios of male violence on women as being the typical.
So with this in mind, people assume we're all super-tough. They assume we're all capable of not only deflecting the hits, but also capable of somehow restraining the women - with a hint of aggression - in order to defend ourselves.
Typically, when women hit - the men don't expect it. So given the natural reactions we're all prone to - it's little wonder that on occasion a woman will get a black as a result of her instigating violence. The average man is not so much stronger that he can gracefully restrain a woman's hits & kicks, without inflicting some minor injury - if only a bruised wrist. It's enough for him to be arrested - despite only defneding himself.
Meanwhile, feminists support women who kill their husbands on the condition they claim he abused her.
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6th-November-2008 #22
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Marx you are missing one important detail. Weapons. Throwing ashtrays, hitting with high heels, kitchen knives, irons, boiling water....
You can even be super strong, giving one moment of surprise and her weapon of choice and you are f*cked...Disclaimer:The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,but only misandry--whether from females or from males.If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.Glenn Sacks
http://antimisandry.com/109272-post69.html
Blog:
http://feck-blog.blogspot.com/
Fecks Warcraft File:
http://antimisandry.com/chit-chat-ma...ile-16039.html
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6th-November-2008 #23
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Just watch Jerry Springer to see how men and woman interact during violence. The men NEVER hit the women on the show. The women nearly ALWAYS attack the man while he does nothing. And they taunt and belittle him verbally.
Short of the man thinking he will die any second now, they don't fight back.Ridgefield, Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way, Universe, Creation
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6th-November-2008 #24
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Some Jerry Springer samples...the men only attack other men...the woman attack anyone:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vq2r7hPUNo"]YouTube - Jerry Springer Uncut Fights Uncensored[/ame]Ridgefield, Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way, Universe, Creation
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6th-November-2008 #25
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I've witnessed hundreds of similar scenarios on UK (Trisha, Jeremy Kyle) and US chat shows whereby females regularly (expectedly?) assault males. This is seen as entertainment, humourous and ultimately justified. Doesn't this perfectly highlight the glaring double standards regarding violence between the genders? Jerry Springer like Trisha Goddard (UK tv) are self avowed socialists with a unflinching passion for spreading the hypocritical feminist rot.
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6th-November-2008 #26
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CD it is amazing to those who can think clearly. I mean look at that DART youtube I put up today showing this tv newslady arguing with Glenn Sacks the men's activist about the DV ads that show men are evil.
That lady could watch the ladies attacking a man on Springer and think that all is well.
There are many men who got kicked out of their house and who cannot see their kids who did much less to their spouse than what happens on the Jerry Springer show every single day without any concern.Ridgefield, Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way, Universe, Creation
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10th-November-2008 #27
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It's not about what goes on on TV or stupid shows like Springer.
I was down the main street of town here the other day, paying bills during my lunch break, I was walking past the ATM machine at one of our banks.
There was some woman absolutely laying into her partner with her fists, she had a kid in a push-chair, the kid was balling it's eyes out watching Mum have a hissy fit at "Dad".
I asked what the problem was, the response was "he hasn't been paid yet, I have expenses now, not tomorrow!"
After some other person called the cops and she was taken away, I talked to the guy, it turned out he was the kids Step-father and she happens to break into frequent rages if she has no money to spend.
All I said was get out while you can and NEVER argue in the kitchen.
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8th-August-2009 #28
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those doublestandards when it comes to female violence make me sick...
OBEY GRAVITY!
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11th-August-2009 #29
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IMO,
This has come about, because it has been ingrained into young boys, by the feminist education system, that even though a female may hit you, lambast you to buggery, you are to sit there with you head in your hands and take it.
You shall never retaliate, doing so will make you an abuser.
This is how fucked up things have become.
Now, here is a simple thing to do, that may help, walk away, don't say anything.
My partner has told me of the behaviour of the "nu-fems" outside the bars in Christchurch here upon closing time that like to beat men up.
I'm not talking about your small 18-20 year old geeks, I'm talking guys of 30-32 years old and they are getting their arses handed to them.
Mainly because common law says "You never hit a woman"
The police are there, to stop the younger boys from fighting, they turn a blind eye to wimmin starting and finishing fights.
Unreal.
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