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    Lightbulb Help With Indicators about Discrimination Against Men in Europe


    There's already an article which explains why Men are Second Class Citizens in the USA.
    The same should be done to create a comprehensive view of the situation of men in the European Union too.
    Please help find credible sources to answer the European version of these indicators!

    SUICIDE: DONE
    LIFE EXPECTANCY: DONE
    WAR:
    Workplace Fatalities: DONE
    MURDER:
    CHILD CUSTODY:
    JURY BIAS:
    COURT BIAS:
    JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS:
    DOMESTIC VIOLENCE:
    CHILD VIOLENCE:
    WEALTH:

    Other valuable indicators can be added. Such as:

    Higher Education:
    Affirmative Action
    Prison Population:
    Taxes:
    Homeless:
    False Accusations:
    Paternity Fraud:



    Workplace fatalities statistics

    European Union 2,478 (fatalities) 2.5 (Fatalities per
    100,000 employees)

    Data from 2003 [1]

    In most countries males comprise the vast majority of workplace fatalities. In the EU as a whole, 94% of death were of males.[1] In the UK the disparity was even greater with male comprising 97.4% of workplace deaths.[2][3]

    Workplace safety : Reference (The Full Wiki)


    Suicides

    Suicide deaths have significantly declined between 2000 and 2006 in the EU 27. While progress has been seen amongst the youngest and, especially, the oldest age groups, the suicide rate has risen slightly in the 50-54 age group


    Figure 3: Suicide death rate, EU-27, 2000-2006 (per 100000 persons) - Source: Eurostat (tsdph240) (tps00122)

    Suicide rates vary between age groups

    The suicide death rate is an indicator of mental health. Overall, it declined favourably in the EU-27 between 2000 and 2006 by an annual average of 2.2 %, although there are differences across age groups. While in the EU-27 suicides in the young group aged 15-19 years and particularly in the oldest group aged over 85 years have fallen by 2.8 % and 4.8 % per year respectively, a countertrend among people aged 50-54 years can be observed. In this age group suicide deaths have slightly risen by 0.5 % per year on average.

    Suicide is more common amongst men than women

    Suicide death rates vary not only across age groups but also between the sexes, and are roughly three times more common amongst men than women in the young and middle-age group and five times more common in the oldest age group. However, the gap between men and women is closing as suicides by men have been declining at a faster pace.

    Strong variations between Member States

    The rates and their developments also vary considerably across Member States. While many of the northern and north-eastern Member States show the highest rates, there have also been substantial declines in most of these countries. However, in some Member States suicides tended to increase since 2000.


    Life Expectancy

    Life expectancy has been gradually rising for both men and women in Europe, as in other world regions, and this trend is expected to continue. EU-27 life expectancy of a boy at birth was 75.8 years in 2006, while the life expectancy of a newborn girl was just over six years higher at 82.0 years (see Table 1). Although many Europeans enjoy a longer and healthier life than previous generations, major inequalities still exist between countries and regions; for example, life expectancy at birth for men varied by 14.2 years between Member States in 2007, while the corresponding figure among women was 8.3 years. The lowest male life expectancy was recorded in Lithuania (64.9 years) and the highest in Sweden (79.0 years), while for women, the range varied between a low of 76.5 years in Latvia and a high of 84.8 years in France (see Graph 1).

    Mortality and life expectancy statistics - Statistics explained


    If one does not consider the many women who die while giving birth or in pregnancy, the female human life expectancy is considerably higher than those of men, who, on average, consume more tobacco, alcohol and drugs than females. In most countries many more men than women commit suicide. In general, men are more likely to be murdered. In wars, many men die in combat as soldiers. Men tend to take more risks than females when they drive cars or motorcycles. [4]
    There is significantly more research and awareness for women's health than men's health. For example there are seven breast cancer drugs for every one prostate cancer drug. In respect to US federal funding, there is twice as much money dedicated breast cancer than to prostate cancer. [5] The United States has an office dedicated to women's health while there is not one for men. The situation is mirrored in other industrialized countries.

    Some argue that shorter male life expectancy is merely another manifestation of the general rule, in all mammal species, that larger individuals tend on average to have shorter lives.[6][17] If small body size is a result of poor nutrition and not of genetics, then the rule is the other way around: better nourished people are taller and live longer. [7]
     Small dog breeds like poodles and dachshunds can reach 15 years of age, while the big breeds like German shepherds seldom reach 10 years of age. [8]
    In their menstruation cycle females regularly lose some blood, which rids them of toxic heavy metals and of iron, which causes oxidative stress. Human females have two X-Chromosomes while males have only one, thus males are more prone for X-linked hereditary diseases than females.
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    Re: Help With Indicators about Discrimination Against Men in Europe

    Here are the England suicide rates up to 2008:


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    Between 1991 and 2008, the number of suicides in people aged 15 years and over in the United Kingdom fell. Despite a sharp increase of 538 from 1997 to 1998, figures continued to fall until 2007. In 2008, the number of suicides increased by 329 from the previous year (5,377) to 5,706.

    There are more suicides among males than females. Male suicide rates peaked at 21.1 per 100,000 in 1992 and 1998 and then declined until 2007. The rate increased from 16.8 per 100,000 in 2007 to 17.7 per 100,000 in 2008.

    Suicide rates for women have been consistently much lower than rates for men and have experienced a steadily downwards trend. The rate was highest in 1991 and 1992 at 6.7 per 100,000 and was lowest in 2007 at 5.0 per 100,000. In 2008, the female suicide rate increased to 5.4 per 100,000.

    Source: Office for National Statistics, General Register Office for Scotland, Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency.

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    Re: Help With Indicators about Discrimination Against Men in Europe

    Guys, I already posted statistics with suicide rates in the EU! All the other indicators that have not been covered still needs to be done! Why are you guys re-researching what I already uncovered? Is this so hard to understand?

    Secondly US suicide statistics are an indicator that suicide rates are higher among men in general. However, we're now focusing on the situation in the European Union, therefore you need to find sources that apply to that.
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    Re: Help With Indicators about Discrimination Against Men in Europe

    Does the EU have any agencies that gather statistics for the entire EU or do I need to search info for each of the 27 member nations on an individual basis and then add them together?
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    Re: Help With Indicators about Discrimination Against Men in Europe

    Quote Quote from chevalier View Post
    Does the EU have any agencies that gather statistics for the entire EU or do I need to search info for each of the 27 member nations on an individual basis and then add them together?
    There is Eurostat. This is also useful the Full Wiki.

    When you gather information based on individual EU countries, you'd only need to check the major EU member countries which inhabit most EU citizens to get a rough indication of the general MR situation in the EU.
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    ~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~

    ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~

    ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~

    ~ Never needing to be pregnant is a blessing. ~

    ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~

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    Spanish fathers entitled to breastfeeding leave - CNN.com

    (CNN) -- The European Union Court of Justice has ruled that working fathers in Spain have the same right to breastfeeding leave as do moms.
    Thursday's ruling grants Spanish dads the same rights as the mother of their child to leave work up to twice a day for a total of an hour or to shorten their workday by 30 minutes for the first nine months of the baby's life.
    The court called the law "an unjustified discrimination on grounds of sex" that fathers weren't granted breastfeeding leave in the same instances as women were.
    The statute, challenged by Pedro Manuel Roca Alvarez, didn't allow dads to take the same leave afforded to women if the mother of their children didn't work or were self-employed.
    The law was "liable to perpetuate a traditional distribution of the roles of men and women by keeping men in a role subsidiary to that of women in relation to the exercise of their parental duties."
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    Re: Help With Indicators about Discrimination Against Men in Europe

    Quote Quote from Tyrael View Post
    Guys, I already posted statistics with suicide rates in the EU! All the other indicators that have not been covered still needs to be done! Why are you guys re-researching what I already uncovered? Is this so hard to understand?

    Secondly US suicide statistics are an indicator that suicide rates are higher among men in general. However, we're now focusing on the situation in the European Union, therefore you need to find sources that apply to that.
    Rather than condescending those who are TRYING to help this thread, I've done the much simpler task of moving the 'offending' post into the more appropriate thread on your behalf.
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    Re: Help With Indicators about Discrimination Against Men in Europe

    We still need to do many Indicators, please help do some research and post here!

    Breast-feeding leave is interesting, but doesn't cover any of the predetermined indicators.
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    ~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~

    ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~

    ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~

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    ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~

    ~ Everybody makes choices, and nobody should be entitled to special treatment because of those choices.
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    Re: Help With Indicators about Discrimination Against Men in Europe

    Mr. Tyrael,
    Just wondering if this might be a helpful resource:
    Statistics by theme
    or even this

    http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cac...-10-555-EN.PDF

    maybe this would be better:
    EUROPA - The official website of the European Union

    Where in Europe are you Mr. Tyrael?

    Mr. Tyrael,
    I work with spreadsheets often, I thought this might help, if I am transgressing I apologize, but, the rest of your neighbors in Europe can copy the table below, and perhaps different people would do their own countries.
    Country/Governmental Unit Year of statistic
    Suicide
    Life Expectancy
    War
    Workplace Fatalities
    Murder
    Child Custody
    Jury Bias
    Justice System Bias
    Domestic Violence
    Child Violence
    Higher Education
    Affirmative Action
    Prison Population
    Taxes
    Homeless
    False Accusations
    Paternity Fraud
    Total population
    Male population
    Female population
    Population under age eighteen
    Number of male headed households
    Number of female headed households
    Male headed households with children
    Female headed households

    Sorry first time did not work so well
    Mr. Tyrael,
    I work with spreadsheets often, I thought this might help, if I am transgressing I apologize, but, the rest of your neighbors in Europe can copy the table below, and perhaps different people would do their own countries.
    Country/Governmental Unit Year of statistic
    Suicide .
    Life Expectancy .
    War .
    Workplace Fatalities .
    Murder .
    Child Custody .
    Jury Bias .
    Justice System Bias .
    Domestic Violence .
    Child Violence .
    Higher Education .
    Affirmative Action .
    Prison Population .
    Taxes .
    Homeless .
    False Accusations .
    Paternity Fraud .
    .
    Total population .
    Male population .
    Female population .
    Population under age eighteen .
    Number of male headed households .
    Number of female headed households .
    .
    Male headed households with children .
    Female headed households .
    .
    .
    Last edited by Penelope; 27th-June-2011 at 06:36 PM.

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    Re: Help With Indicators about Discrimination Against Men in Europe

    Thanks, but Penelope, it would be more useful if you posted findings here. Also if you can find average stats on these topics within the EU. That's also very useful.
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    ~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~

    ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~

    ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~

    ~ Never needing to be pregnant is a blessing. ~

    ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~

    ~ Everybody makes choices, and nobody should be entitled to special treatment because of those choices.
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