This is a discussion on Male pill: Big pharma not interested within the Science forums, part of the Men's talk category; Originally Posted by shaazam "yet another sign that the pharma industry has lost interest in developing the so-called 'male pill.'" ...
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It's the same old anti-men sexism. If this story is true, then Bayer needs a Molotov cocktail through the CEO's front window. Blessings Bob | ||||
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Rubbish! Those old feminist hate lies have gotten really old and have become VERY OFFENSIVE. Excusing your bigotry by some fictitious biological difficulty no longer hides the bigotry and hate behind it. Just keep repeating your misandry, toots. We know who you are. Blessings Bob
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Is there a day when Bob's rag STOPS? He's been on his period for a while now. I wouldn't say making a male pill would be harder per se, so much as completly different. We do have the ability to chemically turn off male fertility, it just looks like they haven't figured out how to reverse the effect, or they have some gnarly side effects. | ||||
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If you disagree, Muay, just say so. The personal comments don't add to a discussion. For fifty years the feminists have been tossing that old red herring out to placate men and prevent us from demanding equality in family planning. The dirty little secret has always been that they had no idea whether it was harder or easier because nobody had ever done any research on pills for men. All the research funding was going to females. Men got nothing, nada, zip. zilch, no funding. All men got for half a century was that same old tired feminist red herring lie. It sounded plausible, but until someone actually tries it, nobody really knows. Finally, in about 2002, with minuscule funding in Australia and somewhere in Europe, a little bit of research began to be done. The results from even a tiny (by comparison to female research funding) amount of research shows that the feminist lie we've all been told for two generations is not only wrong, but it is more probably backward. We've been sold a bill of feminist goods for generations while they claimed sole and exclusive ownership of family planning. I posted another topic a couple of weeks ago with reference links to TWO different kinds of male pills. There is the day before pill, and the every day pills. Both are apparently quite reversible and neither have significant side effects. All the crap men have believed about it being "too hard" to make men's pills has been a pile of feminist lie that we bought all those years. Frankly, I'm tired of the feminist lies. When they push the same old red herring I toss it back in their faces. Its time for men to demand equal rights to family planning. Equal rights is another feminist lie, but that's another topic. Now it seems that the feminist political lobbies are trying to block distribution of the pills for men. That would be a shame. We should not allow that. Blessings Bob | |||
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The second conference called "Future of male Contraception" in Seattle that was supported by National Institutes Of Health and WHO presented the newest developments in the field of male contraception. Kirsten Thompson, director of the International Male Contraception Coalition said that many men have already taken the responsibility for a third of contraception and would be eager to have a non-permanent possibilities discussed at the conference.Non-hormonal pills With more than a half of men claiming that would opt for non-hormonal contraception, the results of the following research could become a huge step forward. The study from the University of Pittsburgh and BIOQUAL Inc., showed that male non-hormonal pills could be soon a reality. They conducted a research where monkeys were given a hormone-free compound called CDB-4022 that affected sperm moving ability. It was said that monkey's fertility was restored in 16 weeks. The study needs further safety research. Sperm blocker The development of Intra Vas Device as an alternative to permanent birth control method vasectomy is claimed to be very effective too. The Intra Vas Device is a set of plugs that stop sperm in the vas deferens- a tube transferring sperm into the urethra. A man can remove the device if he no longer wants it. The studies on animals show that this method is reversible and fertility returns after short-term use. Further studies are necessary to prove its long-term effectiveness and fertility return.Testosterone-like pills Another contraceptive called SARM (selective androgen receptor modulator) was initially developed for osteoporosis and muscle-wasting treatment was found to have some benefits acting like a male contraception as well. It can be taken as a pill. Another drug that shows promises is Dimethandrolone Undecanoate (DMAU) and was found to reduce sperm count. The tests on rabbits showed that low dose of DMAU drug decrease the number of sperm and their fertility returned after they have stopped taking the pills. Home sperm test Besides the contraceptive innovations, developers offer "Sperm Check" home test that would help men with determining their sperm count. Usually, this procedure is done in the laboratory and is quite costly. This could benefit men who chose vasectomy as method of contraception to find when the method started working without going to the doctor.
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Irregardless of the 'degrees of insidious influence' to prevent the male pill, and by whom. To which I believe lies a consortium of opposition for varied reasons. The fact is, aside from feminists and social engineers, it is 'many' unscrupulous women, devoid of ideology, but engorged with gluttony, who would most oppose something that has always proven historically to be a lucrative "chess move." That is, getting pregnant. Marriage is already a business to a growing army of cold, heartless and conniving women. For such women, having babies is a means of leverage, either in ensnaring the man or/and milking him dry at the divorce court. The children are chess pieces used in an already lopsided game called "custody." Some children have been reduced to just being annuities in the minds of their (so called) mothers. Women are always decrying men for not taking enough responsibility, (are they factoring in all the lied to men?) yet, I truely believe they wouldn't like the idea of men wrestling back so much control of their lives from them. A male pill could realistically equate to millions of "opportunistic" women becoming unemployed after being denied such a historically lucrative option. For the first time 'in history' the man will have a say regarding the IF and WHEN. Frustratingly for many men, women (mostly) don't respect the mans wishes and will just selfishly announce when they are pregnant. Not ask in the first instance does he want a child, and can we (he?) afford it. Lets not forget paternity fraud also. A male pill solves all this BS, and furthermore it redistributes a greater sense of decision making regarding procreation back to the male. Will men take the pill? If ingesting a pill can circumvent 18-21 years of unwanted financial obligation, and worst still, to a woman he doesn't like. I guarantee men will be popping those pills like M and M's. "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels The internet has been like a lifeboat for mens opposition to the floodings of feminism. Celtic Druid Respect is earned, not automatically attained by virtue of the arrangement of one's genitalia. Celtic Druid Last edited by Celtic Druid; 3rd-May-2008 at 01:58 AM.. | ||||
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The Pill for men will sell like hot cakes so it's a potential gold mine waiting to be tapped. It's not a question of if, but when it'll be available.
~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~ ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~ ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~ ~ Never needing to be pregnant is a blessing. ~ ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~ ~ Everybody makes choices, and nobody should be entitled to special treatment because of those choices. Equal results based on unequal treatment amounts to no kind of equality at all. ~ | ||||
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I can only speak for the US but men don't spend as much on healthcare as women do. Why? Men don't get free medical insurance and women do. However, in countries with socialized medicine, I suspect the male pill would fly off the shelves so I can't understand why they would halt development of this pill. Unless they fear the backlash from female consumers of their other products. Truly, feminists don't want a male pill. Feminists don't want men to have any reproductive rights at all, hasn't that been made clear? | ||||