A Pill that could prevent lesbianism?

**Zuberi** · 17th-August-2010

The pill that could prevent your daughter from being gay: Outrage as doctors test steroid with dramatic side effect

By Daily Mail Reporter

Doctors accused of trying to prevent homosexuality in the womb with experimental steroid | Mail Online
A prenatal pill prescribed to women expecting daughters with a rare genetic disorder, could reduce the chance of their children becoming lesbians, according to research.

The finding has caused outrage among bioethicists and gay and lesbian groups, who claim that doctors are performing the risky treatment on female foetuses to prevent homosexuality in the womb.

Currently, the treatment may only affect the dozens of girls born with the rare condition called congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) each year.

But there are fears it could lead to the social engineering of sexual orientation.

CAH causes an accumulation in male hormones - and, in females, can make it difficult to tell what gender they actually are.

Although their internal organs develop normally they also develop abnormal external genitalia and go on to exhibit characteristics such as a deep voice and excessive body hair.

Medics, including Dr Maria New of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine, have championed a hormonal treatment that prevents the ambiguous genitalia developing in the womb - sparing the need for surgery later in life.

But it is not without its side effects - including potentially having a dramatic impact on a person's sexual orientation.

Opponents accused Dr New of having a hidden agenda to 'prevent' lesbianism after she noted those with CAH were more likely to be gay and be interested in 'masculine' careers.

Dr New released a statement denying the charges.

She said: 'In my six years at Mount Sinai I have not administered the drug to any woman for the purpose of treating an unborn child.

'Allegations that my goal is to prevent lesbianism are completely untrue.'

The LA Times reported that Dr New's more recent studies on the treatment, using the steroid dexamethasone, resulted in girls who behave in ways that are considered more traditionally feminine.

The report quoted a 2008 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior in which Dr New questioned 143 women with CAH who had not been treated prenatally.

The study found that most of the women were heterosexual - but that the rates of homosexuality and bisexuality were far higher in women with the condition when compared to a control group.

The report then cited a paper published earlier this year in the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences by Dr New and her colleagues.

In that study Dr New found that, in 685 pregnancies, those girls with the condition who were received the prenatal steroid were more traditionally feminine.

The study also showed that those without the prenatal therapy made more masculine-related choices both as children at play and in later careers and lifestyle choices.

'The majority, no matter how severe, are heterosexual,' Dr Heino Meyer-Bahlburg, professor of clinical psychology at Columbia University, who has collaborated with New on some of the studies, told the LA Times.

'But the rate of CAH women attracted to females increases with their degree of androgen exposure during prenatal life.'

Professor Alice Dreger at Northwestern University described Dr New's work as the first time in history that 'clinicians are actively trying to prevent homosexuality.'

'Her main goal has been to prevent ambiguous genitalia and all the things that come with it, including what she calls 'behavourial masculinisation' Dr Dreger said.

Dr Dreger added that the Maria New Children's Hormone Foundation website said Dr New had treated over 600 pregnant women at risk for the birth of a CAH-affected child, but not what treatment she had used.

Dr New has also been accused of recommending the strong steroid dexamethasone without revealing to parents that it is highly experimental.

Opponents also said the steroid treatment does not address the underlying condition behind CAH, caused by a defective enzyme in the adrenal gland.

A number of major medical societies are now drafting guidelines on the use of the hormone, which will be published in a consensus paper in September's Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

The guidelines are expected to highlight the experimental nature of the treatment and warn that it can cause low birth weight and defects such as a cleft palate.

But Dr Phyllis Speiser, who is helping draft the document, said the guidelines are not concerned with aspects of sexuality.

'Our main concern is the long-term safety to the foetus,' he told Bloomberg Businessweek.

Dr Dreger and her colleagues are concerned that medical attempts to prevent homosexuality will arise in the future if sexual orientation is found to be determined by human biology.

'Evidence that homosexual orientation is inborn, could very well lead to new means of pathologisation [treating it like a medical condition] and prevention,' they warned in a recent paper.

**Kargan3033** · 17th-August-2010

WTFITS?

I don't what people have been smoking but maybe they should stwich to a better bran of drugs.

Now from what I understandis that this *condistion* is very rare so I think the gays andlesbos should kep their mouths shut, hell if their was a pill that causes gayness you bet the gays and lesbos would be pushing it on children as much as they could, all in all I think this type of medcine is vary bad, all in all I think gayness is social and not medical, all in all this reeks of engenics which is just so damn worng, mark my words this shit is going to bite the human race on the ass like a starving, rabid pitbul on roids with lockjaw one of these days.

**haute macabre** · 17th-August-2010

This is one thing I am definitely am against.

I have my own opinions on homosexuality but I would never push for something like that. It's inhumane and against human rights.

**Nynrah Ghost** · 17th-August-2010

The time and money wasted on this pill could have been better spend on the male contraceptive pill or at least SOMETHING ELSE USEFULL for that matter.

**nivek** · 17th-August-2010

Quote from Nynrah Ghost

SOMETHING ELSE USEFULL .

Yeah, a pill that could prevent feminism would be much more worthwhile .....

**Kargan3033** · 17th-August-2010

Quote from haute macabre

This is one thing I am definitely am against.

I have my own opinions on homosexuality but I would never push for something like that. It's inhumane and against human rights.

I agree and even though I'm dead set against homosexualty it's up to people to decied who they want as lovers not the goverment, not the speical intrest groups and most certainly not Big Pharma.

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The time and money wasted on this pill could have been better spend on the male contraceptive pill or at least SOMETHING ELSE USEFULL for that matter.

I agree with you on that but you know that will never happen because you know the femanazis and the state do not want men to have any from of control over reporduction.

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Yeah, a pill that could prevent feminism would be much more worthwhile .....

LOL that would be cool, but what would you call it?
There is a cure for femanazism, it's called Brains and a Contances.

**omegaflux** · 17th-August-2010

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I agree and even though I'm dead set against homosexualty it's up to people to decied who they want as lovers not the goverment, not the speical intrest groups and most certainly not Big Pharma.

That's what this comes down to. No matter what your stance on homosexuality, it is wrong for all of these chemical/hormonal experiments to be taking place unless actually medically necessitated. And sorry, homosexuality doesn't necessitate it. We've already screwed with our hormones enough. We have girls entering puberty at eight, infant girls growing breasts, abysmal sperm rates when compared to our fathers and grandfathers, and a host of other issues.

I love science and industry for the world they've helped create. I also hate them for the world they've helped create.

**haute macabre** · 17th-August-2010

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Yeah, a pill that could prevent feminism would be much more worthwhile .....

Now that is something I would be for.

**nivek** · 17th-August-2010

Quote from Kargan3033

LOL that would be cool, but what would you call it?

Cyanide

**haute macabre** · 17th-August-2010

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Cyanide

How about cyanide dipped in chocolate?

Pass it at feminist conventions or whatever.

Not many women can pass up chocolate. lol

**Kargan3033** · 17th-August-2010

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Cyanide

LOL
I'm more partal to ebola, all joking aside the us has got to be the medacated nation on earth, the us has pills for everything and most of the new meds that comeout have very seroius if not lethal side effects, I mean look at all the lawsiuts against the drug companies in the us in the last year or so, it's fucking nuts.

**nivek** · 17th-August-2010

Quote from haute macabre

How about cyanide dipped in chocolate?

Pass it at feminist conventions or whatever.

Not many women can pass up chocolate. lol

Ah, so, we infiltrate the catering companies used at feminist conventions and make sure that the only dessert on the trolley is “death by chocolate” . Its a good plan, it will work, ok, you obtain the cyanide and I'll source the chocolate, I'm not sure i could trust a female accomplice with all that lovely choccy ...

**haute macabre** · 17th-August-2010

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Ah, so, we infiltrate the catering companies used at feminist conventions and make sure that the only dessert on the trolley is “death by chocolate” . Its a good plan, it will work, ok, you obtain the cyanide and I'll source the chocolate, I'm not sure i could trust a female accomplice with all that lovely choccy ...

I'll make sure I buy a ton of Godiva and Hershey before you take the chocolate source. That way I won't eat the poison by accident. lol

**Zuberi** · 18th-August-2010

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Cyanide

Cyanide is too good for those stupid cunts!
What you do is lace the chocolate with extra strength laxative then let the harpies dig in!

**nevosopelo** · 26th-August-2010

Whether this is a positive or negative sort of science will depend on the stance you take on homosexuality.
No doubt that it will outrage homophiles at this kind of research!!

Doctors accused of trying to prevent homosexuality in the womb with experimental steroid | Mail Online

It will also prove that homosexuality is a genes disorder and could be remedied.

NEVO