another link here:

http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/_P...al%20Jesus.pdf

I had intended to watch it but in the event I missed it.

But I agree, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (which we used to call 'mohamedism' before polcor raised its ugly head) have common roots. As a sidenote, the Judaic name for 'God' is Yaway - or Jehova if you're American - although the Jewish tradition is that His Name is never spoken out loud and the Islamic word for God is of course Allah or Al Lah which literally means 'the God'.

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he has one eye, and cuts people in half.

Sounds like a feminist. Maybe he is a she.

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I had intended to watch it but in the event I missed it.

But I agree, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (which we used to call 'mohamedism' before polcor raised its ugly head) have common roots. As a sidenote, the Judaic name for 'God' is Yaway - or Jehova if you're American - although the Jewish tradition is that His Name is never spoken out loud and the Islamic word for God is of course Allah or Al Lah which literally means 'the God'.

The correct Hebrew name for the Creator is YHWH (sorry, can't say it out loud, even though I know how to). we call Him Hashem, which is Hebrew for "The Name".

The story of how Christians came to call Him "Jehovah" is rather interesting. In Jewish yeshivot (rabbinical schools), the Name was written as one yud, one vav, with a shvah vowel under one. This was meant to be a code to alert yeshiva students that these letters represented G-d's Name, and must be pronounced as "Hashem" or "Adonai" (my L-rd.)

Christian Bible translators did not know of this code used in yeshivot, and so tried to translate it as it was written...which is how they wound up with "Jehovah". (There is no J in Hebrew; when Hebrew is transliterated into English, a J is usually substituted for a Y.)

As I understand it, Islam views Jesus as a prophet similar to Moses, Elijah et al. There is no divine or supernatural aspect to his person.

The Jews never accepted any of the Jesus story officially. There are writings that parody the Gospel accounts, and suggest he was a sorcerer or criminal.

To me it's all moot, as the earthly existence of Jesus of Nazareth cannot be proven with the tools of history/archeology.

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As I understand it, Islam views Jesus as a prophet similar to Moses, Elijah et al. There is no divine or supernatural aspect to his person.

The Jews never accepted any of the Jesus story officially. There are writings that parody the Gospel accounts, and suggest he was a sorcerer or criminal.

To me it's all moot, as the earthly existence of Jesus of Nazareth cannot be proven with the tools of history/archeology.

The only historical record of Jesus, as far as I know, is in the works of Josephus. But even that is supposedly suspect, due to Josephus' loyalties.

Jesus actually said some really great things! I related to some of it not long ago, when I had dealings with a Jewish cemetery with very pecuniary motivations (some might say, Shylockian motivations, lol). It reminded me of Jesus' condemnations of Jewish leaders who will wring the last penny out of people ("devour widow's houses"), and who will act religious but yet be hypocrites. It seems some things never change, eh?

The primary problem Judaism has with Jesus was his claim to divinity...because in Judaism (see Deuteronomy 4), G-d does not take on human form. It wasn't really even his claim to being Messiah (though Jeconiah being in his lineage actually ruled out any Messianic claim based on the Davidic line.) It was primarily his claim to DEITY that was the problem.

You know this post is most intresting to say the lest and if you take a very close look at the christan, jewish and muslim faiths they have a comon thread to them that a powerful being created everything and everyone in one geogrpahical area this belief has taken many diffent aspects as people tried to understand the matter of their exstance and how everything came to be and in the quest for understanding lead to the beilef of chritsanty, judism and muslim faiths.

Now the question is what is the right answer and who is right, but more so then that you have to ask yourself what really took place all thoses years ago that give birth to such diverce and dynamic faiths?

Oy vey Billy! You did a pretty good feminist job on Islam there!

I take my hat off!

Ever heard of the word 'allegory'?

You know Billy there's a lot of questionable material in the Jewish and Christian Bibles too. That's one reason why the Catholics warn against 'bibliolatry', worshipping the book more than the Creator. If you follow the inerrancy and infallibility interpretations you've got lots of explaining to do.

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The correct Hebrew name for the Creator is YHWH

I recall the word YAHWEH from the hebrew speakers at my school..

I was amazed at how they used to read the other way..

Gave them an advantage when playing vidoe ping pong from the other side..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton

My school had so many jewish influences we even had a physics teacher who described yahweh as an energy source!

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I recall the word YAHWEH from the hebrew speakers at my school..

I was amazed at how they used to read the other way..

Gave them an advantage when playing vidoe ping pong from the other side..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton

My school had so many jewish influences we even had a physics teacher who described yahweh as an energy source!

Jews do not believe in sounding out the true Name of the Creator, which is why I spelled it without the vowels.

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Jews do not believe in sounding out the true Name of the Creator, which is why I spelled it without the vowels.

Yes, I thought so, I was just clarifying it for the others!

Billy,

I've studied church history pretty extensively (and most other religions, too)...its an old myth that the Roman Catholic church would not LET people read the Bible. Martin Luther and other reformers used that as one of their arguments for doing what they did.

Most people outside of the church hierarchy and monarchies could not read. They were illiterate. They would not have been able to read the Bible anyway.

In medieval times, Bibles were written by hand (Gutenberg had not invented the printing press yet), and so they took a long, long time to write, and so were very valuable.

In addition, the covers were often inlaid with precious jewels to denote the spiritual value of the books.

They were chained to keep people from stealing them for the jewels and gold on the covers. It had nothing to do with a desire to prevent people from reading them (which, as I pointed out, they could not do anyway, being illiterate.)

Furthermore, the Catholic Bible was the Latin Vulgate, which was written in Latin. It was translated from the Septuagint, which was written in Greek. Either way, few common people then could read English, let alone Latin or Greek. Martin Luther was able to read it because he was a monk who knew all three languages.

Right, and now we've got hundreds of translations, so every armchair prophet can count the days til Armageddon, or 'prove' that Mary Magdalene's offspring are still living in France, or build Creation museums with dinosaur demons - yeah, much better than soaring cathedrals or gilt psalmbooks