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BTW, do any of you guys know a good Photoshop job when you see one?

If its good, you won't know it when you see it.

Good lord people.. really now.

I bleieve that the symbol is called shaka in HAWIIAN... you know, where he is allegedly born? Surfers use it as well... it loosely means hello...

Also the letter Y in sign language.

TMOTS

Surely it can't be something so mundane? Surely it must be a secret sign - that everyone knows - to say something secret?

Maybe this should be in the conspiracy theories section...

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haha! I feel like shit on a plate right now, having been in bed for a good 30 hours or so, but that is not particularly unusual for me..

The chest x ray was ok, and I think the blood tests have shown I dont have anything wrong with liver, and all those other things..

Probably some horrible virus or other, hopefully all the lumps and pains will dissapear soon..

I hope they find what is wrong soon. What about a CT (cat scan)? That gives a better picture than X-rays. I am having a MIT scan (I think that is the word) in a few weeks. I had 3 CT scans while in hospital. It would have been more if my body was able to take the dye easily.

What worries me is that my dad went from fit as a badgers brush to dead in a very short space of time..

The only sign that he was ill was his hypochondria..

He seemed to have lots of minor complaints..

Then he died of malignant melanoma, oddly, he never mentioned that one..

But he probably found out about 4 months prior to his death, and it was too late even then..

I think the only saving grace for him was when his heart failed before the cancer really started to wreck him..

Yep, I learned this is the way the body works. One thing goes wrong and like dominoes, it affects every other organ in the body. You are lucky if you walk away with just one illness.

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Since I have been coughing up blood and the docs have done some tests to see what the fuck is happening..

Could be dead in a few months..

But so what, life goes on eh?

As with the concerns of Percy, Julie and others, get yourself sorted man.

I don't like to hear such ill-fated talk from any members here.

Despite morbidly accepting such a dark idea through a veneer of humour, you unwittingly conspire with the grim reaper itself.

Indeed haahoo, don't you get free health care? No reason not to use it.

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Zub,
I can tell you as a Free-Mason, that is NOT one of our signs.
BTW, do any of you guys know a good Photoshop job when you see one?

What do you know about Nimrod?

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That hand gesture belongs to a cult.
92% of the US presidents were free masons.

Every religion or quasi-religious group seems like a cult to someone. Not to say that there is no ultimate truth or that morality is relative, it's just that all religions are attempts to understand the ultimate truth by fallible human beings - if one happens to be closer to the truth than another that is a matter of chance.

Of course, there are real cults. There is no question that groups like the Moonies, Scientologists, and Jim Jones' "People's Temple" have horribly abused their members and others who got in their way. Maybe the Freemasons have done so too, but the evidence I have seen about them so far makes that seem inconclusive.

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Every religion or quasi-religious group seems like a cult to someone. Not to say that there is no ultimate truth or that morality is relative, it's just that all religions are attempts to understand the ultimate truth by fallible human beings - if one happens to be closer to the truth than another that is a matter of chance.

Of course, there are real cults. There is no question that groups like the Moonies, Scientologists, and Jim Jones' "People's Temple" have horribly abused their members and others who got in their way. Maybe the Freemasons have done so too, but the evidence I have seen about them so far makes that seem inconclusive.

I think the Free Masons are like the Catholics. I was baptised Catholic, went to church every week and attended Catholic Primary and High school.

I like most of the people who are Catholic and I like most of the men who are free masons. Both groups have done good in society. IMO

The problem is that "power always makes for corruption". I am concerned about the power of the Catholic church. They are almost impossible to hold accountable and they are a state of their own. Even their airspace belongs to them while going over their records would never be allowed.

The Free Masons are the same, IMHO. They too have made themselves a power that cannot be reckoned with. Far too much corruption has been shown for me to ignore the bad and just look at members actions way down the hierarchy chain.

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I think the Free Masons are like the Catholics. I was baptised Catholic, went to church every week and attended Catholic Primary and High school.

I like most of the people who are Catholic and I like most of the men who are free masons. Both groups have done good in society. IMO

The problem is that "power always makes for corruption". I am concerned about the power of the Catholic church. They are almost impossible to hold accountable and they are a state of their own. Even their airspace belongs to them while going over their records would never be allowed.

The Free Masons are the same, IMHO. They too have made themselves a power that cannot be reckoned with. Far too much corruption has been shown for me to ignore the bad and just look at members actions way down the hierarchy chain.

I was raised Catholic, too. I don't know any people whom I know to be Freemasons, but from what I do know about them, your explanation makes sense.

The Free Masons I know are good people. They, like my grandfather did when he was alive, work tirelessly for children's charities. I'm sick of all this bullshit talk Zuberi. Do you actually know any Masons personally? My guess is, NO.

Free masons or catholics, let's hope that randy bugger haahoo is fine.

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Free masons or catholics, let's hope that randy bugger haahoo is fine.

I Hope so too, been feeling like shit on a plate this last few weeks, but I really dont know if its any "illness" or just my own fear of what it might be..

Even I dont usually sleep more than 18 hours a day..

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I Hope so too, been feeling like shit on a plate this last few weeks, but I really dont know if its any "illness" or just my own fear of what it might be..

Even I dont usually sleep more than 18 hours a day..

18 hours a day?? that don't sounds to good, I hope you'll be ok, you know you have friends here that are rooting for you so try not to get to down about these, we all like you.