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    Christians for Biblical Equality is just one of the groups that Hugo Schwyzer belongs to. That is introducing a false doctrine to infect the US Christian Community with Feminism. Which is an ideology contrary to Christian Dogma. Cary Roberts wrote this article on Mens News Daily. And it illustrates the lies of Feminism and its Whores who are polluting the Churches with their falsehoods. Or in Christian terms "damnable heresies".

    Abuse Industry Teaches Women to Fear Men, Teaches Men to Fear Women
    Monday, November 9, 2009
    By Carey Roberts

    Recently I attended a domestic violence conference hosted by a church in my community. “The Church’s Role in Addressing Domestic Violence in the Faith Community,” the glossy brochure explained.

    The program featured a Proclamation by President Barack Obama filled with heart-rending language about the “devastating impact” of domestic violence on women and children. The conference included a workshop a dramatic presentation of The Yellow Dress, a play based on stories of women who were victims of dating violence.

    I opted to screen a video called “Defending our Lives,” featuring the accounts of five women incarcerated for murdering their partners. All insisted their lethal actions were taken solely in self-defense.

    But from the beginning, it was clear an ideologically-fueled agenda was lurking in the background. Because research shows, over and over, that women are equally likely to aggress against their intimate partners.

    The video commenced with a stark warning; “There is a war against women in this country.”

    Oh, really?

    The video then claimed domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women. That myth has been debunked by persons like professor Richard Gelles of the University of Pennsylvania who derides such claims “factoids from nowhere.” (The actual causes of female death are accidental falls, motor vehicle accidents, and over-exertion.)

    And then the coup de grace: “Battered women who kill have longer sentences than serial rapists.”

    The source of that outrageous factoid? Well, nobody seemed to know — and no one really cared. After all, we’ve got an epidemic of domestic violence on our hands, so any make-believe statistic will do.

    The effect of the conference was to teach women to distrust and fear the men in their lives as latent, if not actual abusers. Husbands, boyfriends, brothers, even teenage sons – all are now suspect.

    Also attending the conference were a State’s Attorney and an aide to a federal Congressman. Realizing that women outnumber men in elections, politicians have become sympathetic to women’s concerns these days.

    As a result, almost every state in the country has domestic violence laws on the books that represent a flagrant suspension of American civil liberties. All a Scream Queen needs to do is play the abuse card, conjuring up a creative allegation that she knows may never require proof.

    Two years ago a man in Stamford, Conn. was arrested for allegedly kicking his wife and throwing her down a flight of stairs. But it turned out to be a bogus accusation – the woman filed the charge hoping the restraining order would give her a leg-up in an impending divorce and custody hearing.

    Not only did she file the spurious accusation, but then Superior Court Judge James Bingham denied the man’s request for an evidentiary hearing.

    Obviously there are fundamental Constitutional issues at stake. Doesn’t the Fourth Amendment require probable cause before an arrest is made? Don’t Fourteenth Amendment due process protections apply? Isn’t stealing a man’s children with the blessing of the family courts a form of “cruel and unusual punishment”?

    So this past week, the Connecticut Supreme Court ruled the man should have been granted an evidentiary hearing based on the preponderance of evidence standard.

    Amazingly, the Connecticut Coalition Against Domestic Violence, which receives $2.4 million federal funding each year, argued against the Supreme Court ruling, saying it would have a “chilling effect” on victims. In truth, the ruling will have a chilling effect — on false accusers who should be stoutly punished for their scurrilous deeds.

    Each year, over two million domestic violence restraining orders are issued in the United States. Half of them are based on not even an allegation of physical aggression, according to a study by the Massachusetts Trial Court. Dads are stigmatized as abusers, families dissolved, and kids thrown into single-parent households.

    Eventually word gets out. Men get wind that marriage is a raw deal. Lose your kids, your home, and your assets, thanks to a baseless accusation.

    Men begin to distrust and fear women.

    That’s the bitter fruit of our nation’s $4 billion domestic violence industry.

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    Re: Christian Churches betrayal of Men

    Let us make a distinction between 'Christian' and 'christian'.

    The Catholic Church is the only Christian Church that has specifically condemned Feminism as an Evil.

    The Catholic Church was the Original and Universal Church.

    The 'Protestant' sects in christianity broke away from Catholicism for a variety of reasons which ally with feminism. The first was the Church of England, started by a narcissistic King who wanted to Divorce his wife and went on to murder several more. Very religious. Not. The rest followed suit with whatever personal desires of their respective (but quite frankly disrespectful) leaders as irrationales.

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    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,
    against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. “
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    christian church? *ehem* a church that promotes feminism is a devil's church (and that is NOT to be debated, it's self-obvious and pretty much a fact if I may say so).

    Oh... regarding that Hugo Schywzer, anything that mangina says or movements/organisations he is affialated I disregard as feministic and foul. I've seen some of his blogs and it's all feminist crap supported by 'intellectual' dishonest nonsense.

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    Let us make a distinction between 'Christian' and 'christian'.

    The Catholic Church is the only Christian Church that has specifically condemned Feminism as an Evil.

    The Catholic Church was the Original and Universal Church.

    The 'Protestant' sects in christianity broke away from Catholicism for a variety of reasons which ally with feminism. The first was the Church of England, started by a narcissistic King who wanted to Divorce his wife and went on to murder several more. Very religious. Not. The rest followed suit with whatever personal desires of their respective (but quite frankly disrespectful) leaders as irrationales.
    The Catholic church is not a christian church!!
    GET IT STRAIGHT!!!!

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    Let us make a distinction between 'Christian' and 'christian'.

    The Catholic Church is the only Christian Church that has specifically condemned Feminism as an Evil.

    The Catholic Church was the Original and Universal Church.

    The 'Protestant' sects in christianity broke away from Catholicism for a variety of reasons which ally with feminism. The first was the Church of England, started by a narcissistic King who wanted to Divorce his wife and went on to murder several more. Very religious. Not. The rest followed suit with whatever personal desires of their respective (but quite frankly disrespectful) leaders as irrationales.
    Which Catholic church do you speak of? The Roman Catholic church under the papacy or the Orthodox Catholic church?

    Also, Henry did what he had to do, he needed an heir and he needed one badly to ensure the sucession went smoothly and without a civil war. Not that I particularly like Henry VIII, but I would have done the same thing in his position if it became clear I wasnt getting an heir from my current wife.
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    Christians for Biblical Equality is just one of the groups that Hugo Schwyzer belongs to. That is introducing a false doctrine to infect the US Christian Community with Feminism. Which is an ideology contrary to Christian Dogma. Cary Roberts wrote this article on Mens News Daily. And it illustrates the lies of Feminism and its Whores who are polluting the Churches with their falsehoods. Or in Christian terms "damnable heresies".

    Abuse Industry Teaches Women to Fear Men, Teaches Men to Fear Women
    Monday, November 9, 2009
    By Carey Roberts

    Recently I attended a domestic violence conference hosted by a church in my community. “The Church’s Role in Addressing Domestic Violence in the Faith Community,” the glossy brochure explained.

    The program featured a Proclamation by President Barack Obama filled with heart-rending language about the “devastating impact” of domestic violence on women and children. The conference included a workshop a dramatic presentation of The Yellow Dress, a play based on stories of women who were victims of dating violence.

    I opted to screen a video called “Defending our Lives,” featuring the accounts of five women incarcerated for murdering their partners. All insisted their lethal actions were taken solely in self-defense.

    But from the beginning, it was clear an ideologically-fueled agenda was lurking in the background. Because research shows, over and over, that women are equally likely to aggress against their intimate partners.

    The video commenced with a stark warning; “There is a war against women in this country.”

    Oh, really?

    The video then claimed domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women. That myth has been debunked by persons like professor Richard Gelles of the University of Pennsylvania who derides such claims “factoids from nowhere.” (The actual causes of female death are accidental falls, motor vehicle accidents, and over-exertion.)

    And then the coup de grace: “Battered women who kill have longer sentences than serial rapists.”

    The source of that outrageous factoid? Well, nobody seemed to know — and no one really cared. After all, we’ve got an epidemic of domestic violence on our hands, so any make-believe statistic will do.

    The effect of the conference was to teach women to distrust and fear the men in their lives as latent, if not actual abusers. Husbands, boyfriends, brothers, even teenage sons – all are now suspect.

    Also attending the conference were a State’s Attorney and an aide to a federal Congressman. Realizing that women outnumber men in elections, politicians have become sympathetic to women’s concerns these days.

    As a result, almost every state in the country has domestic violence laws on the books that represent a flagrant suspension of American civil liberties. All a Scream Queen needs to do is play the abuse card, conjuring up a creative allegation that she knows may never require proof.

    Two years ago a man in Stamford, Conn. was arrested for allegedly kicking his wife and throwing her down a flight of stairs. But it turned out to be a bogus accusation – the woman filed the charge hoping the restraining order would give her a leg-up in an impending divorce and custody hearing.

    Not only did she file the spurious accusation, but then Superior Court Judge James Bingham denied the man’s request for an evidentiary hearing.

    Obviously there are fundamental Constitutional issues at stake. Doesn’t the Fourth Amendment require probable cause before an arrest is made? Don’t Fourteenth Amendment due process protections apply? Isn’t stealing a man’s children with the blessing of the family courts a form of “cruel and unusual punishment”?

    So this past week, the Connecticut Supreme Court ruled the man should have been granted an evidentiary hearing based on the preponderance of evidence standard.

    Amazingly, the Connecticut Coalition Against Domestic Violence, which receives $2.4 million federal funding each year, argued against the Supreme Court ruling, saying it would have a “chilling effect” on victims. In truth, the ruling will have a chilling effect — on false accusers who should be stoutly punished for their scurrilous deeds.

    Each year, over two million domestic violence restraining orders are issued in the United States. Half of them are based on not even an allegation of physical aggression, according to a study by the Massachusetts Trial Court. Dads are stigmatized as abusers, families dissolved, and kids thrown into single-parent households.

    Eventually word gets out. Men get wind that marriage is a raw deal. Lose your kids, your home, and your assets, thanks to a baseless accusation.

    Men begin to distrust and fear women.

    That’s the bitter fruit of our nation’s $4 billion domestic violence industry.
    ""...All a Scream Queen needs to do is play the abuse card, conjuring up a creative allegation that she knows may never require proof....""

    aka duke Lacrossee and Hofstra - the mere tip of the fascist feminit juggeraut agin men

    the Duke students only survived cause their folk had the $$$ to hire competant defence attorneys to refute Nifong' s connivance with the liar's base and baseless allegations agin the students

    with Hofstra even the prosecutor advised the liar that video evidence refuted her filthy allegations ie the contradictory evidence swamped her malicius bullshit

    the feminits are currently using and amending laws aka IMBRA VAWA the skewed laws and using such skewed applications of valid laws Family Court laws these laws are the legal institutions of a republic ie but the feminits have recourse to the constitution and its derivative laws when it suite them or they just ignore laws and rights and then their feminit judges and prosecutors gaol or fine butthead to the max

    the awful truth is a wimyn nowadays just has to point her finger at some hapless guy say her one night or ex b/f or ex husband to be and the leos frog march him to the station and shake him down for evidence that might support her allegaton
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    It's sadly common, that ideological groups like the feminist's are, try to force their own ideology into organizations which have influence. Sadly they often ruin the organization they infiltrate to, and drive off the people who really were devoted for the cause .


    Btw. In the state church of Finland, the Evangelical Lutheran church of Finland, we have casually a special services called the Feminist mass. I don't know how common these are in other countries. I guess Swede's also have these.

    I haven't been on a one, but I have heard it's the same as any service, but pastor's are all-female, and they have modified the prayers and other text to gender-neutral form. For example they don't say "Holy Father in heaven", but "Holy God..." etc. Or they might replace the word Lord ( or Father or Son)with the word Resurrected. All this so that the Women can "feel themself as whole" in the mass.

    But I guess it's not so big deal, because there are so many other special services also, like Metal mass... [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYUmEEMrZmI&feature=related"]YouTube- Recessional hymn 517 - Metallimessu[/ame]

    ... Pop mass, Teddy mass and Rainbow mass.

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    Btw. In the state church of Finland, the Evangelical Lutheran church of Finland, we have casually a special services called the Feminist mass.
    Casually? Come on Morty this didn't occur by chance? The state church of Finland have allowed the devil to have a mass? I blame the vikings.
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    It's sadly common, that ideological groups like the feminist's are, try to force their own ideology into organizations which have influence. Sadly they often ruin the organization they infiltrate to, and drive off the people who really were devoted for the cause .


    Btw. In the state church of Finland, the Evangelical Lutheran church of Finland, we have casually a special services called the Feminist mass. I don't know how common these are in other countries. I guess Swede's also have these.

    I haven't been on a one, but I have heard it's the same as any service, but pastor's are all-female, and they have modified the prayers and other text to gender-neutral form. For example they don't say "Holy Father in heaven", but "Holy God..." etc. Or they might replace the word Lord ( or Father or Son)with the word Resurrected. All this so that the Women can "feel themself as whole" in the mass.

    But I guess it's not so big deal, because there are so many other special services also, like Metal mass... YouTube- Recessional hymn 517 - Metallimessu

    ... Pop mass, Teddy mass and Rainbow mass.
    ""we have casually a special services called the Feminist mass. ""

    better

    we have casually a special services called the Feminist mess

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    ""we have casually a special services called the Feminist mass. ""

    better

    we have casually a special services called the Feminist mess


    I think this picture speaks for itself.

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    Churche have betrayed us on all levels. Afterall, their ultimate objective is NOT truth, as belied by their constant pandering to what is politically correct. Churches, like every other business, are interested in two things: control and money.
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    Let us make a distinction between 'Christian' and 'christian'.

    The Catholic Church is the only Christian Church that has specifically condemned Feminism as an Evil.

    The Catholic Church was the Original and Universal Church.
    Re: Catholic Church only? Not true.

    http://www.fbfi.org/content/view/27/22/

    Southern Baptists, Free Presbyterians, Bible Presbyterians, and Independent Baptists (and likely others, though I am not going to exhaust myself in this...) have, over the years, taken many very public and condemnatory stands against feminism.

    Re: Catholic Church Original and Universal Church? Not true.

    The church in Acts lacked every single characteristic that makes Romanism distinctive, from a Pope to a liturgy to a church building itself.
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    Maybe we are doomed. As we MRA embrace liberalism and fight against feminism (the same thing for the most part).

    We cannot even acknowldege that our only true ally in any large organizational sense is the Roman Cathololic Church.

    Effective liberals are not concerned with distancing themselves from the Roman Catholic Church. They use them when ever it helps achieve their objectives.

    The Roman Catholic Church, to my knowledge, is the only State to openly condemn all forms of feminism as a cancer on society.

    There are millions of Catholics world wide.

    We should be building brigdes with those who are our allies agains misandry. The enemy of our enemy is our friend.

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    I think this picture speaks for itself.

    Look at the boat!



    I like it!

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