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Wife who killed pastor husband may serve 60 days

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POSTED: 5:48 p.m. EDT, June 8, 2007

SELMER, Tennessee (AP) -- A woman who killed her preacher husband with a shotgun blast to the back as he lay in bed was sentenced Friday to three years in prison, but she may end up serving only 60 days in a mental hospital.

Mary Winkler must serve 210 days, or about seven months, of her sentence before she can be released on probation, but she gets credit for the five months she has already spent in jail, Judge Weber McCraw said.

That leaves only two months, and McCraw said up to 60 days of the sentence could be served in a facility where she could receive mental health treatment. That means Winkler may not serve any significant time in prison.

Winkler, 33, was convicted of voluntary manslaughter in April and could have received up to six years for killing her husband, Matthew, in the parsonage where the family lived in March 2006.

At her trial she testified she was physically and emotionally abused by her husband, but at her sentencing hearing Friday she said, "I think of Matthew every day, and I'll always miss him and love him."

She pleaded to the judge for leniency, and asked to be reunited with her three daughters, who are now in the custody of Matthew Winkler's parents.

The judge denied Winkler's request for full probation or judicial diversion, which would have eventually cleared her record of the conviction.

Prosecutors had sought a murder conviction against Mary Winkler, who they alleged had been trying to keep her husband from learning about a check-kiting scheme. They claimed she had become caught up in a swindle known as the "Nigerian scam," which promises riches to victims who send money to cover the processing expenses.

Winkler, however, testified during her trial that her husband hit and kicked her, forced her to look at pornography and demanded sex she considered unnatural. Jurors were shown a pair of tall, platform shoes and a black wig Winkler said she was pressured to wear during sex.

Matthew Winkler's family said at the sentencing hearing that Mary Winkler's allegations amounted to a second attack on her husband, a popular 31-year-old preacher at the Fourth Street Church of Christ in Selmer.

"The monster that you have painted for the world to see? I don't think that monster existed," said Matthew Winkler's mother, Diane Winkler.

When Mary Winkler took the stand, she turned to her husband's family and told them she was "so sorry this has happened." She said she understood they were angry with her and that she prayed every night for them to have peace.

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Premeditated murder, runs away. When she's caught, she uses false allegations in defense and gets a slap on the wrist.



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They claimed she had become caught up in a swindle known as the "Nigerian scam," which promises riches to victims who send money to cover the processing expenses.
OK, I guess men don't matter and she'll get away with premeditated coldblooded murder (pussy pass in full effect), but can't they at least lock her up for being a dumb cnut? There has to be some kind of law which prohibits being so stupid, falling for the Nigerian scam...



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When are people going to wake up and start putting their foot down? I am getting so sick of hearing these stories and having these monsters set free just because they have a vagina. There is going to be a breaking point but when will that be and how much worse are things going to have to get?


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When are people going to wake up and start putting their foot down? I am getting so sick of hearing these stories and having these monsters set free just because they have a vagina. There is going to be a breaking point but when will that be and how much worse are things going to have to get?
The problem is, the ones to actually avenge their deaths or at least demand real justice are... dead. And victims to come, little do they know, are saying "I can't imagine happening this to me" to themselves. Or even more probably, the thought of being shot in the back by their partners doesn't even cross their minds. It's like an average man does not identify with the shot husband at all. He sees nothing in common with him. The husband was just another shot human being, big deal. They simply do not even begin to contemplate that hey - you could very well be next and it will be no big deal - because you're a man! But no, Mary Winkler is already yesterday's news for an average man, no, last year's snow.

And so it goes.

I don't hold much hope in an average man anymore. I just don't see this big backlash against female privileges, this great men vs women war, I just don't see it happening. I can not imagine men, together, marching, demanding justice, demanding women being punished more severely, demanding women being treated equally shitty, demanding some blindly chivalrous judge's "head",... I just don't see it happening. The factor which would mobilize men for something like this is simply missing. I guess men just don't work that way. You can achieve the most unbelievable and great things with men working together for a goal (from winning a war, building things, fighting off the enemy, etc.), but working together against anything female is not one of such goals, it seems.

It's funny, because feminasties tell exactly the opposite, that working together against women (i.e. the patriarchy) is basically the only thing men ever do.

Anyway - I don't see women marching against their privileges (battered wife syndrome, etc.), demanding harsher sentences for Maries Wrinklers of this world, etc. either...

So, the future looks bleak, to bleak to tell you about your breaking point...



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Perhaps a great men vs women war will not happen, at least not in a protesting in the streets way, however many men are waking up to the fact that they are getting a raw deal and just walking away.

Maybe when this society finally collapses that is when some order will be restored, at least for a little while. Why don't we learn from our mistakes? We see how societies have crumbled in the past, but we don't learn from them. We may have more toys now but we haven't changed. Kindof reminds me of the snotty nosed teenager who think they know everything and everyone else is wrong.

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Anyway - I don't see women marching against their privileges, demanding harsher sentences for Maries Wrinklers of this world, etc. either...
I agree. But if women are herd creatures..... I wonder if there is some way to tap into that.



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Maybe when this society finally collapses that is when some order will be restored, at least for a little while.
When this society finally collapses, will anything we talk about here really matter?


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Perhaps a great men vs women war will not happen, at least not in a protesting in the streets way, however many men are waking up to the fact that they are getting a raw deal and just walking away.
You're a visionary Selkie. Fruit Cake could be your (virtual) recalcitrant, teenage daughter. That might explain your exasperation.

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Perhaps a great men vs women war will not happen, at least not in a protesting in the streets way, however many men are waking up to the fact that they are getting a raw deal and just walking away.
The words of a mature visionary selkie! No wonder you get angry at the recalcitrant immature, teenage-daughter attitude, represented here by Fruit Cake.

It's plain to see.
Will there be a grand and mighty revolution? - probably not.
Will disenfranchised men take to the streets in the very near future and demand their rights?.. Most likely - no!
Will men simply sense which way the wind is blowing and quietly walk away... Very likely!

It's a silent revolution. If astute women like yourself tried to explain the mechanics to your sisters that are steeped in self-indulgence - how far would you get?

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If only it were that simple.

Most men are herd creatures too. They aspire to be Republican/Democrat, or Conservative/Labour/Liberal, Christian Democrat, Liberal Democrat, Green Party or, MEMBER OF COMPLETE AND UTTER FUCKWIT PARTY THAT VOTES FOR THE FIRST CANDIDATE THAT GIVES HIM A FREE SACK OF RICE (local politics).

When everything gets silly, it's sometimes better to take the money and quietly walk away.



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Re: Wife who killed pastor husband may serve 60 days

Well fellas and lady. I think that a war is brewing and it is just waiting for the right spark to ignite it. And I for one will be a willing particapant and I hope it happens soon. One day some judge or congressman is going to make one feminist decision too many and the media will not be able to hide it then boom the war will be on and men will win. It will be up to the feminasties to decide how long and how bitter it will be.


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One day some judge or congressman is going to make one feminist decision too many and the media will not be able to hide it then boom the war will be on and men will win. It will be up to the feminasties to decide how long and how bitter it will be.
Not really, IMO. After all, it's not the feminasties "we" will be in "war" with. It "will" be other men.

Feminasties are NOTHING without their overlords (politicians) and minions (manginas and blind chivalrists). Sadly, both categories combined seem to encompass most of the male population. The remainder is mostly apathetic. The exception to the rule is us here.



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