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This is why the MRM exists

Surprised nobody here has yet picked up on this disgusting piece of institutionalised male-bashing here in the UK:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ncancer116.xml

You read it right: this miserable, appalling badly named "NICE" organisation, that seems to hold the power of life and death over NHS patients, has decreed that men suffering from prostate cancer can just f*** off and die rather than wasting precious money on trying to save their lives.

But check out the comments. Plenty of people are getting the message loud and clear. One of them even notes the startling absence of comments by women, the so-called "caring" sex.

Another robust piece of evidence to throw in the faces of feminists, their lackey-boys, the government and other assorted liars who still try to lie to us that the NHS is gender-neutral.


 
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Now this really pisses me off,especially in light of the fact that Dan Fogelberg,a decent and much beloved man,just passed away from prostate cancer.


 
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But check out the comments. Plenty of people are getting the message loud and clear. One of them even notes the startling absence of comments by women, the so-called "caring" sex.
Yes indeed. Very supportive. Often, issues with a gender angle tend to be missed by the vast majority of men when it comes to the comments section. It would appear however, that the public may be catching on. I would say though that this comment below is probably one of the best, as it is always good to see a public awareness of terms such as ‘men’s movement’ etc:

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I once heard from a high-up gentleman in the Men's movement that over 80% of NHS expenditure went on women.I don't know which gender pays the most in, but it would not surprise me to find that it was men, and possibly by a significant margin. The answer is clear. Split the NHS funding down the middle, along gender lines. Men's treatment comes out of the men's account, women's out of the women's account. If women want to continue with their privileged spending, they can pay for it themselves. With men's money reserved strictly for men's treatment, perhaps this new prostate cancer therapy might prove affordable.


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Scandalous.

There are more comments coming in by the minute. Like this one:

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Typical of Britain today. Whenever it is treatment of a woman's complaint, those up as high as government ministers insist that money must not deprive someone of the treatment. When are men going to wake up to the inequality in almost every walk of life that has been introduced by the "women's movements". Let's first of all have a clear and honest statement of the amount of NHS money spent on women versus the amount spent on men. Whether you allocate by the number within the population or by their contribution to the exchequer, there can be absolutely no excuse for spending more on women than on men. Let the government publish the facts and then try to defend them if they can.
Posted by Bob Finbow on December 16, 2007 9:32 AM
I scrolled down and maybe I have misssed them but there does not appear to be any 'empathetic' 'superior communicator' women making a protest or even a friggin' squeek. At least one could have multi-tasked a short comment while she answered the phone, changed a nappy and landed her 747. Is it too much to ask?



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What a joke, and it doesn't even really make sense. Sure, the initial treatment might cost more, but once you figure in the cost of subsequent treatments when other options have failed, not to mention the costs accrued while a person is dying of cancer, I would imagine the ultrasound therapy is much MORE cost efficient in the long run. It's really disgusting and it wouldn't happen with anything else. Can you imagine if they'd found a treatment for breast cancer that was non-intrusive and 90% effective...then refused to treat people with it? It wouldn't happen, and if it did, they outcry would be so great that it would only be a matter of time before the decision was rescinded.



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Does anyone know how to contact NICE via e-mail? Interestingly enough, their website appears to be down.


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This is another example of the state failing to deliver on its promises..

The UK health service, once "envy of the world" has become a second class option and folk are therefore obliged to pay TWICE for their health care, which was supposed to be offerred free under the NHS funded from taxation..

Now, more and more is being done privately, because, the state is not living up to the promises it has made..

This is also seen in many other areas of life, folk are having to get extra insurance cover for things that were supposedly provided by the state, such as dentistry, pensions, education many other things, even in some cases folk are feeling that they need to hire private security to do work that the police aught to be doing..

Do taxes go down to allow for this?

ha ha!! No question of that!

The state likes to use tax money for employing the junk graduates churned out from universities who are fit for little else other than state created employment, often on high salaries to increase the "equality" of the more and more feminised "work"force..

Tax money is thrown at subsiding childcare to force women into these made up jobs, masses of cash thrown at social engineering, with the aim of maxing the tax revenues and controlling families by destroying them, the demands and needs of the tax payers themselves, for example, health care, obviously not that important..

Lets face it, men over a certain age dont work anymore, they are mostly retired, better to let them sort of, die...


 
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This sure is a good reason for the MRM to exist.

I too would like to hear from NICE. Because I attended a men's health meeting on prostate cancer, I can say that they are moving more into blood tests (new developments).

I would like to hear the whole story. Even though I know that prostate cancer is not what women collect money for. And yet I don't know the figures of Government spending on these 2 different cancers. (in any country)

Does anyone know what the Health departments spend from tax on these 2 cancers?



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I scrolled down and maybe I have misssed them but there does not appear to be any 'empathetic' 'superior communicator' women making a protest or even a friggin' squeek. At least one could have multi-tasked a short comment while she answered the phone, changed a nappy and landed her 747. Is it too much to ask?
Percy,

The head of the prostate cancer society told me that it is the wives that are inquiring about prostate cancer and that women are more interested in pushing it than men are. That may be because older men are suffering from it and dying from it. And older men ... well they are kinda macho. (please don't jump down my throat for this)

Also the health section in my area has devised long term plans as is normal for groups and departments of Government and the main area they will be working with is women. They are doing this, they say, because they can't get to the men. But they and many other groups have realized that the only way to the men is through the women.

You must know of the attitude in Aussie, "She'll be right mate". It is the same in NZ.

As much as males are complaining about the unfairness in health so are the doctors and specialists. This isn't only in the health section but the fact is that it is hard to get men to come forward.

Lots of TV shows want to do things on males as victims but they can't get the males to open up and go public.


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[As much as males are complaining about the unfairness in health so are the doctors and specialists. This isn't only in the health section but the fact is that it is hard to get men to come forward.

Lots of TV shows want to do things on males as victims but they can't get the males to open up and go public.]

Julie, this is because men are trapped in a vicious circle. What happens to any man who complains that he has a pain? Women immediately jump down his throat and accuse him of being a wimp and making a fuss like a big baby - followed by a lecture on how women can stand far more pain than men, that no man has to endure what a woman does during childbirth etc etc.

You show me any man that has not had to put up with this kind of damning attack from a woman, and I will show you a five-legged cow. Women are literally pushing men into dying of shame, just so that they can hog the services, resources and of course that precious victimhood status all for themselves. Then of course they turn round and say "men just don't take care of themselves like women do..." a viciously smug and hypocritical answer.

It is of course the continuation of the teaching by mothers of their sons: "big boys don't cry...just be a man and suck it up...don't fuss so, it's just a little scratch..."

So this is yet another barrier. It is no use having the best cancer detection or treatment in the universe if it is not being got to the men who need it, at the time they need it. This is why we need a national screening programme - like women already have in the UK for cervical and breast cancer - to reach out to men and invite them to a test. But that will not happen this side of hell freezing over - not enough money, you see. Strangely, for all the tens of billions of our taxes that are poured into the NHS every year, it all seems to be getting spent elsewhere....


 
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[As much as males are complaining about the unfairness in health so are the doctors and specialists. This isn't only in the health section but the fact is that it is hard to get men to come forward.

Lots of TV shows want to do things on males as victims but they can't get the males to open up and go public.]

Julie, this is because men are trapped in a vicious circle. What happens to any man who complains that he has a pain? Women immediately jump down his throat and accuse him of being a wimp and making a fuss like a big baby - followed by a lecture on how women can stand far more pain than men, that no man has to endure what a woman does during childbirth etc etc.

You show me any man that has not had to put up with this kind of damning attack from a woman, and I will show you a five-legged cow. Women are literally pushing men into dying of shame, just so that they can hog the services, resources and of course that precious victimhood status all for themselves. Then of course they turn round and say "men just don't take care of themselves like women do..." a viciously smug and hypocritical answer.

It is of course the continuation of the teaching by mothers of their sons: "big boys don't cry...just be a man and suck it up...don't fuss so, it's just a little scratch..."

So this is yet another barrier. It is no use having the best cancer detection or treatment in the universe if it is not being got to the men who need it, at the time they need it. This is why we need a national screening programme - like women already have in the UK for cervical and breast cancer - to reach out to men and invite them to a test. But that will not happen this side of hell freezing over - not enough money, you see. Strangely, for all the tens of billions of our taxes that are poured into the NHS every year, it all seems to be getting spent elsewhere....
100% correct..

I had a lovely German wife some years ago who had everything a man could hope for in a woman, tits, fanny, the lot!!

She was always telling me to look after myself, eat food, wash my hands before touching her, clean my foreskin after coming back from sex tours..

She was always complaining that I did not go to the doctors etc, that I was going to die young (they told me I had 10-15 years before my lungs would be innefective 15 years ago..)

I was fed up of keep getting useless antibiotics for my chronic bronchitis..

Still, after a week of heavy sleepless excess and years of smoking 60-100 cigarettes a day, I developed extreme chest pains while slipping a hot streetwalker some beef..

I went home and started coughing up blood and I was not feeling to well..

Because I was coughing up blood and looked like I was dying, the caring women then did a runner to germany with my kids because she said I was "disgusting"..

A few days later, after my temperature had reached 106 or so degrees, everything miraculously felt ok and my lungs seemed pretty good..

I went to the doctor for the sicknote, and he said i should have a chest x-ray, found out that 1/3 of one of my lungs was mostly scar tissue, I had had bacterial pneumonia..

Blood tests also discovered I was carrying an arsenal of horrible viruses that that would sicken a vampire, so future hopes of blood donation was out of the question..

It is odd how many versions of hepatitis and herpes related viruses one can carry without even being aware that one is ill!!

I was so pleased with myself that I wrote a song about it for our death mental band and dedicated my life to toxically infecting as many feminists as possible with liver and cervix destroying diseases..

For some bizzare reason, women usually become very ill shortly after meeting me..

I used to train at a gym and noone would dare go in the shower when I was in, they were seriously of the belief that was a one man disease bank!

hehe!!

The health service is pretty crap in the UK, the only way to prevent illnesses seems to be to genetically adapt over a few generations into some sort of resistant species..


 
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