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    A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

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    A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

    David Warren
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    Sunday, June 22, 2008

    Last Sunday I wrote, and was chastised by several correspondents for writing:"The keystone of the feminist order is 'domestic violence.' Men are so universally presented as having 'anger management issues,' that even in the extreme case, where a woman has murdered her husband, the court will invite feminist 'experts' to argue that the man must have deserved it. And the man in this scene is unable to defend his own posthumous reputation, for dead men tell no tales." As if in response to this cue, an Ottawa court -- veritably, an Ontario Superior Court -- reached that very evening a "Father's Day Verdict" in the trial of one Teresa Pohchoo Craig. By way of precisely illustrating my remark, the jury responded to "expert" feminist testimony by quashing both first- and second-degree murder charges, convicting her instead only of "manslaughter" for stabbing her husband while he slept. Widow Craig's "support group" was also out in force to hear this latest legal vindication of what we might call "the woman's prerogative" in the postmodern age.

    Feminist "experts" argued that, even though there was no evidence the late Mr. Craig had physically abused his wife, ever, in any way, he was nevertheless guilty of "verbal abuse," for telling her it was "my way or the highway." This amounted to "battered wife syndrome," according to Dr. Evan Stark, author of Coercive Control: How Men Entrap Women in Personal Life, and the star defence "expert." Widow Craig was also victim of "battered mother's dilemma," since the dead man had allegedly told her he'd get custody of their child if she left.

    The notion that a man would get custody of the child in such circumstances is risible. Mrs. Craig had only to make one phone call to the police, or one visit to the nearest women's shelter, and a living Mr. Craig would have been family court toast. The notion that the man in such circumstances will get custody even of his own paycheque, after any kind of "abuse" has been alleged, is similarly risible. One must assume that not only Mrs. Craig, but the entire jury, was born yesterday.

    I am not entirely without sympathy for the widow. I'm sure it was an unhappy marriage. Moreover, I can make an argument for her lawyers: for once courts have begun to accept such metaphysical arguments, as abuse without abuse, a defence lawyer is bound to use them in the interest of his client. I can think of no way to excuse the courts.
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    Re: A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

    love that article!


     
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    Re: A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

    if only young men would join this forum and became aware of the utter contempt feminits have for them

    and all the nasty deals that are in store for them after they sign the feminits sucker contract


    sadly at that age they still have their "MOMMA" delusion intact and are driven by surging testosterone which addles their good judgment about wimin


     
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    Re: A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

    The latter half is the more interesting:

    But I don't want to leave this unpleasant subject on a negative note. Let me suggest one practical reform, to make our present legal arrangements less painful, and by way of introducing "feminism with a human face." I propose that some sort of constitutional challenge be brought to the Supreme Court, or even presented to Parliament (though I would prefer it go to the more powerful legislature), arguing for the restoration of a form of capital punishment in Canada on humanitarian grounds.
    We wouldn't be asking for it in cases of murder, terrorism, etc., but only in those where a woman has decided to terminate a husband or boyfriend. The argument would be that in such cases, the woman herself should be spared the disagreeable necessity of performing the deed, and the man of having to endure an amateur execution that might prove cruel, unusual and prolonged.
    Under the system I propose, where a man is to be terminated, his wife or girlfriend would simply provide his name and address to the police, who would then deliver him to a kind of "Morgentaler clinic" for unwanted men. There'd be a slight, but unavoidable paperwork delay, while the police assured themselves that all the man's property would be transferred to his widow or girlfriend by a proper will. (We might also need a court ruling to prevent life insurance companies from refusing to pay out after a man has been "euthanized.") As a legal formality, there might at first be a standing committee of qualified feminist experts at every "men's clinic," to pronounce judgment before each execution is performed. Later, our Supreme Court could strike down this formality, as an unwarranted interference in women's "equality rights." David Warren's column appears Sunday, Wednesday and Saturday.



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    Re: A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

    "But I don't want to leave this unpleasant subject on a negative note. Let me suggest one practical reform, to make our present legal arrangements less painful, and by way of introducing "feminism with a human face." I propose that some sort of constitutional challenge be brought to the Supreme Court,"

    the Supreme Court has been endorsing the feminits claptrap for the last forty years and ain't going change too soon

    feminism hasn't got a human face

    the present legal arrangement is just what the feminits want and they couldn't care less how painful it is to those that sign their sucker contract




     
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    And still the vast majority of women shout that they are oppressed.

    And the minority are silent, as ever, not wishing to argue with their sistas, in case they get stabbed in the back too.



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    Re: A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

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    The latter half is the more interesting:

    But I don't want to leave this unpleasant subject on a negative note. Let me suggest one practical reform, to make our present legal arrangements less painful, and by way of introducing "feminism with a human face." I propose that some sort of constitutional challenge be brought to the Supreme Court, or even presented to Parliament (though I would prefer it go to the more powerful legislature), arguing for the restoration of a form of capital punishment in Canada on humanitarian grounds.
    We wouldn't be asking for it in cases of murder, terrorism, etc., but only in those where a woman has decided to terminate a husband or boyfriend. The argument would be that in such cases, the woman herself should be spared the disagreeable necessity of performing the deed, and the man of having to endure an amateur execution that might prove cruel, unusual and prolonged.
    Under the system I propose, where a man is to be terminated, his wife or girlfriend would simply provide his name and address to the police, who would then deliver him to a kind of "Morgentaler clinic" for unwanted men. There'd be a slight, but unavoidable paperwork delay, while the police assured themselves that all the man's property would be transferred to his widow or girlfriend by a proper will. (We might also need a court ruling to prevent life insurance companies from refusing to pay out after a man has been "euthanized.") As a legal formality, there might at first be a standing committee of qualified feminist experts at every "men's clinic," to pronounce judgment before each execution is performed. Later, our Supreme Court could strike down this formality, as an unwarranted interference in women's "equality rights." David Warren's column appears Sunday, Wednesday and Saturday.
    WTF!
    Well that tears it as far as I'm concerned all women are now the enemy.
    No mercy, no regerts.
    This is just a foreshadow of things to come, when face with this shit can any man sit still in the face of a perposed gendercide and not take up arms.


     
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    Re: A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

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    Feminist "experts" argued that, even though there was no evidence the late Mr. Craig had physically abused his wife, ever, in any way, he was nevertheless guilty of "verbal abuse," for telling her it was "my way or the highway." This amounted to "battered wife syndrome," according to Dr. Evan Stark, author of Coercive Control: How Men Entrap Women in Personal Life, and the star defence "expert." Widow Craig was also victim of "battered mother's dilemma," since the dead man had allegedly told her he'd get custody of their child if she left.
    Well, bugger me backwards, slap my thighs, call me Charlie and spank my ass raw - that's the very precise scenario I endured from my wife and her so-called family. There was much more, of course, but the above covers some of the main problems. Well, damn if I only were a woman - I could've murdered (ermmm, manslaughtered) them all and got away with it!



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    Re: A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

    what about a sort of national festival similar to Ground Hog Day but called Lemming Day

    On this day men rejected by their wives gather at the head of a glacier and simply jump off

    of course they will have signed a Pro Forma dedicated their worldly assets and all and sundry remunerative benefits for his grieving wife

    this would save nasty court actions which he would have lost anyway and which simply would reduce her net gain


     
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    It's a spiffing idea. I have emailed the link to Harridan Hateman and invited her to comment on when she will introduce this modest proposal into the UK.

    Her website says she tries to answer every email. We'll see.


     
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    Re: A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

    Really now?

    She tries to answer every email, eh?

    Hmmm


    Well, here's my nice & simple one.


    harmanh@parliament.uk

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    Why do you hate men so much?

    I am keen to learn what men have done to you that misrepresent data, such as the wage gap, in order to promote hostilities between the sexes? Why do you condone sexism towards men? Why you seem to get such a perverse pleasure out of promoting anti-male paranoia?

    Regards,
    My email client tells me this was sent about two weeks back. I've had no reply - can't imagine why.



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    Re: A modest proposal for dealing with unwanted husbands

    Harriet Harm-Men needn't reply. After all you are not amongst the group she represents, cheer leads, and encourages.

    As long as favoring women works and gains votes in elections, it will continue.

    Look...Polticians are not idiots, they know what to do to get elected.

    If giving more and more rights to a gender gains them 3 female votes while losing them 2 male votes...well that is a successful strategy, a home run, a strike, a hit or whatever you want to call it.

    So it will continue. Expect it to go right to the edge of what brings more votes in. '

    That is why you won't see a men's rights agenda on big national election platforms. It's a loser. The best you could do is have equality oriented policies.



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    Just an FYI - the top right corner of the article is covered by some kind of "Google" ad. I can read it in the link, but not on this site. Thought you might want to know.

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    Gotta tell you - I LOVE this writer. He used wit and sarcasm to show the BULLSH*T that is going on when women kill men.

    I could not find a link to E-mail him - anyone else see it - or a way to contact the paper?

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    Hot Damn, it's Beene !

    Good to see such a man of stature here.

    Have you swapped sand for ice?



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