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Gender gap: This time it's not a bad thing, 'cause it should about skills, not gender

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Gender gap: This time it's not a bad thing, 'cause it should about skills, not gender

...and wouldn't you know it - it's men being underrepresented, and that's OK. Because it's skills that matter, like always. Yea right.

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Men make up less than 10 percent of elementary school teachers nationwide, and the total number of male teachers now stands at a 40-year low, according to the National Education Association.
Read the rest here.

Anyway, what I found to be most interesting is this little tidbit:

Quote:
"We're thankful whenever we find quality males, but we can't just say because you are male, we're going to hire you. We still have to find the best person for the job," said Greene.
Ain't it 'funny' how common sense, reason and logic always just magically appear when the gender gap favors women. I agree with the quote, don't get me wrong, all I'm saying is that we never hear this reasoning when women are underrepresented in some field. Then it's affirmative action time and it's all about the pussy and none about the skills.



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Re: Gender gap: This time it's not a bad thing, 'cause it should about skills, not ge

This needs to be in Raw deals: A men only club . So I've moved the thread.



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Re: Gender gap: This time it's not a bad thing, 'cause it should about skills, not ge

When women scream about the police needing to be made up of 52 percent females which simply for the most part are not as qualified as men. But to put men into teaching positions dear lord no need for equity here it's about who could do the job best. What men aren't smart enough to teach?


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Re: Gender gap: This time it's not a bad thing, 'cause it should about skills, not ge

I am not Peter Pan and I refuse to chase my shadow around the room while I wait for...

Yes, as I was saying, any time the gender gap is mentioned, it is only in relationship to some perceived negative under-representation of women. In fact, the term "gender gap" is used exclusively to report inequalities affecting women - afterall, there is only one gender of public interest.

When we look at the gender gap from the other side of the gonadal spectrum, however, we do see some pretty stark discrimination - though it tends to be directed squarely at men.

When women cry gender gap, fire departments, police departments, the military, hell everything, lowers standards - seen as "systemic barriers" i.e. things like: the number of pushups per minute, the speed at which a run must be completed, minimum lifting weight etc. Even where certain minimum standards are kept, women can score far lower, and come out far higher on the score board at the end, simply because their score is based on a separate female only scoring system. This is patently wrong, but, feminists argue, the only way to ensure fairness in these job areas in which women are so sorely under-represented. Oh the level of hypocrisy here is so high that it almost drips off the page.

Then we come to men, and of course, feminists tell us that it's all about balance: creating an equal representation of men and women in the workplace is an important element of social justice - until of course it's men who are under-represented - then quotas, lower standards and fast-tracking are just plain wrong.

Men are becoming non-entities at universities and yet not one feminist has stepped forward to promote quotas to "level the playing field" for men. Tumble weeds are blowing by in the desert as men disappear from teaching as well. There's a hollow, sucking sea-shell sound when it comes to men in nursing as well, who were less than 5% of the field this year, last year, five years ago, ten years ago, twenty years ago, thirty years ago... Women in medicine? OH my God, women make up only 40% of medical students! Phew, now women make up 52% of medical students. Oh well err yes... even though women make up 60% of medical students, we feel it's because women are more intelligent and studious than all those men who were quotaed out of the process...

It's the same crap every time. Sadly, many men still believe that feminism is about equality, and still await that magic moment when feminists will start standing up for under-represented men - because as we all know, it's all about fairness and equality afterall.

Shall we mention then the female officer who locked herself in the police car when her male partner was jumped and physically assaulted, failing to even call for assistance (covered up nicely by the Metro Toronto police force?). Should we mention the two female ambulance attendants who came to take my grandmother to the hospital, were unable to lift the stretcher, and had to canvass the community of unemployed Newfoundland men looking for someone to lift the stretcher for them? Should we talk about the BC firefighter (female) who failed her firefighter testing, and yet was reinstated by government decree? Should we speak of the female air force pilot who crashed to her death when she was pushed to perform when her trainers said she wasn't ready? NO, I suppose we shouldn't really discuss any of those things because the bottom line is we don't care about equality, justice, fairness or balance - we only say we do when it's of some perceived benefit to women.

Tired of lies and hypocrisy screwing you out of the opportunities and life that you deserve? Welcome to the forum.


 
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Re: Gender gap: This time it's not a bad thing, 'cause it should about skills, not ge

Great post, TSP.

To feminists, and to Governments, the UN, etc.. Equality = Pro-Female Equality = Not Equality, but hey, it doesn't matter. The empowered woman is a Capitalist's wet-dream, so it doesn't matter.. Social justice, unimportant.

One wonders how far it has to go before an attempt is made to masculinise academia/schooling. In Ireland 58% of University students are female; 59% of medicine students female and 61% of law students female. Clear gender imbalance and indifference to dwindling male numbers by Department of Education and Science, journalists and politicians. And then I must look at Catholic charity-turned-gender feminist vehicle Trocaire's billboards, ads and leaflets:

"She may never be given a chance, simply because she's female"

What propaganda. Society is setting itself up for a female power assumption; a female bourgeois and a male proletariat, a female rich and male poor. Almost all incoming primary teaching personnel are female, compounding the trend. It's going to be a wipeout.



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Re: Gender gap: This time it's not a bad thing, 'cause it should about skills, not ge

Agreed MRN The Trocaire feminist campaign induces me to vomit at such blatant falsehoods .I WONT be contributing.
The write up on this "female equality" on their website looks like UN speak.
So they are serving the beast. Count me out.
Another discredited charity there are many.


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