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Boy would that rile up feminists something fierce. Not that I endorse such a thing but it would be a great way to rattle their cages!

The really scary thought is that what Le Jacquelope postulates seems to fit in perfectly with feminism's definition of equality. It benefits women because they can work longer and eliminate the pay gap of the Patriarchy.:p

Moved to questions-forum.

Retirement from what?

My blog entry is written from a UK perspective, though I would be happy to expand it if someone provides me the data on any other country, or easy pointers to where I can get the data.
Equal retirement age is NOT equality
Contains Background; The mathematics of discrimination; and Proposal for equality.

the proportion of adult life ... is the way to achieve [retirement] equality.

Simply? No. They should be the same. Now of course one could go on and on about the life expectancy, how much women actually work versus men, time off etc.. etc.. But in my la-la-land, equality is just that... Equal.

TMOTS

The same sort of argument can be applied to many areas of life where women have a natural advantage over men but strangely enough, the femistains dont see it and the equally (or more) stupid mens rights folks dont see it either..

Since I am blessed with the ability to see much more misandric legislation and practice than the majority of folk, mra's included, and I am occasionally not limited by the silly concept of "eeek-qualitee" that is shrieked repeatedly by men who want to be mice, let me give one simply example that first occured to me back in the day when I was living off £20 per week state benefits which scarcely gave me enough to fund two days video gaming at the arcade..

Quite simply, where is the logic reasoning behind giving men the same amount of benefits money as women, all other things being equal of course (same age, not pregnant, etc..).. ? Because as we all should know, men require a higher calorie and higher protein (hence, substantially higher priced) diet than women.. And this is not even taking into account the fact that men need to spend money on razor blades, buy their own drinks when they go into a bar exposing most of their chest flesh, etc..

As for retirement age.. I think 30 is a good age to retire, for men anyway.. I dont think women ever retire, as they say, "a womans work is never done!"

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Simply? No. They should be the same. Now of course one could go on and on about the life expectancy, how much women actually work versus men, time off etc.. etc.. But in my la-la-land, equality is just that... Equal.

OK, so you want equality. I prefer the major and natural differences between the genders to be recognised but OK, let's talk equality.

Equality of what?

Why pick on the number of years since birth, rather than something more equitable? Why not pick the number of years before death, for example?

I'll tell you one thing about having equality in retirement based on number of years before death: all of a sudden, even feminists would want men to have equal health care spending and research to help them live as long as women do. (To those who think there is anything natural about the six-year death gap, research the gap around the world and back in history .. it narrows down to somewhere between zero and one year. Men dying much earlier than women is not natural at all.)

What is the point of a "state retirement age" anyway as a concept? I don't see the point of it at all..

It usually means "too old to be a slave to the state". Society bribes you from day one... You go to school to get to high school. (unwritten: so we can brainwash you more) Better things are around the corner! If you graduate high school you can go to college. (unwritten: We'll bury the axe on social conditioning so you don't fight) Go to college and a job is yours. (Go ahead enjoy the fruits of your labor because if it weren't for you we would have no power) Work hard and you can fun with your retirement! (You'll pay some of your dues eventually)...

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OK, so you want equality. I prefer the major and natural differences between the genders to be recognised but OK, let's talk equality.

Equality of what?

Why pick on the number of years since birth, rather than something more equitable? Why not pick the number of years before death, for example?

I'll tell you one thing about having equality in retirement based on number of years before death: all of a sudden, even feminists would want men to have equal health care spending and research to help them live as long as women do. (To those who think there is anything natural about the six-year death gap, research the gap around the world and back in history .. it narrows down to somewhere between zero and one year. Men dying much earlier than women is not natural at all.)

Honestly, I would prefer it be more in the lines with how many actual years you work and pay taxes versus age etc... As in REAL years... like adding up the actual work days.

Ofcourse, this would piss off the women firsters cause we all know who would be thebulk of retirees... men.

TMOTS

Longevity between the sexes as Douglas stated, in a historical sense, was once almost indistinguishable (at least in the British lsles). It has only been recently so, whereby a cult of gynocentrism has actively promoted the gulf of life-expectancy.

Maybe a more prominent question should be asked as to why men's lives are being cut shorter, rather than shuffling around an unsolved problem. Women's retirement age should certainly be equally that of men as a starting point. There isn't one overall reason as to why such a chasm between the sexes should still exist in the 21st century.

It needn't become a male vs women argument as there's no reason why we can't start to embrace women generally (outside the feminist bubble) as to the benefits of supporting men's cancer etc. Certainly men's cancers are a number of years behind women's in terms of spotlight and money raised. That said, I do also believe chivalry and institutional female chauvinism played a part in women's earlier retirement age (and in turn better longevity).