Quote from ToonRffj

Just a note on Esther Rantzen as a figure head, don't know if this already been mentioned but she has a been a vociferous critic of the F4j movement in the uk, here is one article I remember from the Daily mail, it's in the google cache as pay per view http://news.google.co.uk/archivesear...n+earth&cf=all

"Fathers. also fight for their children. David Blunkett has notoriously sacrificed his own career in his battle for his son. Fathers4Justice, with their flamboyant protests, prove how passionately a father can feel the pain of losing access to his children and how obsessively he can pursue his rights. But this is a very different emotion from a mother's love. However noble the fathers' cause may be, there is sometimes a possessiveness about their love."



Mother love, the strongest force on earth

by Esther Rantzen
Daily Mail
Tuesday 4th January 2005

Through times of horror, we must cling to whatever symbols of hope we can find. And yesterday, amid the wreckage of so many shattered lives in South-East Asia, came one such tiny glimmer of good news.

None of us who had seen that astonishing picture of a young woman rushing down a Thai beach to save her children from the encroaching might of the tsunami could have imagined that she would survive.

But yesterday, despite all the odds, we learned that not only had Karin Svärd been found alive, but that her whole family had survived the onslaught and are now safely back home in Sweden.

We must pray that there will be other miracles like this in the days ahead. But in the meantime, that picture serves as a timely reminder that there is no more ferocious, selfless, all-consuming instinct than the love that drove Karin Svärd, facing almost certain death, into the sea - a mother's love for her children.

Mother love is not fashionable these days. We live in unsentimental times when the very idea is out of style. Women are leading tough, fulfilling lives outside the home, and many working mothers have to spend a great deal of time nurturing their strenuous careers, rather than their children.

Today's women are encouraged to delegate their mothering. Modern working mums convince themselves, as I did, that they are dispensable and replaceable in their children's lives.

And it's true - in most cases the children survive well without us next to them day and night. But when our children's lives are at stake, no one else will do. We mothers run to protect them whether literally or metaphorically. And no one should underestimate the almost superhuman force that compels us to protect our young.

When my first baby, Emily, was a few months old, my husband and I were persuaded to take a spring holiday in Greece without her.

We were both exhausted and we had a clever, well-trained nanny to look after our daughter. So we went, although I rang home every day to check she was all right, and the news was always good. Then one day, for no reason, I told my husband I wanted to go home.

It was crazy to give up a precious holiday for no good reason. But he humoured me, and we went to the local travel agent to try to book a return flight. It was Easter and there were no seats available. So I convinced myself that I was being stupid.

Only when we arrived home four days later did I discover that the nanny had decided to keep the truth from me, that Emily bad been taken suddenly ill and she had been extremely worried for her.

I think that hundreds of miles away in a Greek village, I caught an echo from my baby in my own mind - I believe instinctively she called to me, and I heard her.

From that moment I have always believed that mothers have a special emotional bond with their children.

Fathers. also fight for their children. David Blunkett has notoriously sacrificed his own career in his battle for his son. Fathers4Justice, with their flamboyant protests, prove how passionately a father can feel the pain of losing access to his children and how obsessively he can pursue his rights.

But this is a very different emotion from a mother's love. However noble the fathers' cause may be, there is sometimes a possessiveness about their love. You feel that, for them, their child represents their own chance of immortality, a part of their ego that they refuse to give up.

But a mother's love drives her to make any sacrifice to protect her baby.

There are women who have been warned by their doctors that to continue with a difficult pregnancy would put their own lives in danger, and yet they still choose to have the baby because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

Equally, there are mothers whose supreme sacrifice is to give up their own children to keep them safe.

When King Solomon was asked to choose between two women who both claimed a baby as their own, he offered to cut the child in half. The real mother instantly sacrificed her right to the baby rather than endanger the child's life.

The savagery of World War II created many examples of the same heroism, of mothers who put their own lives at risk but managed to save their children.

Many German Jews, in particular, went to enormous lengths to smuggle their children away to an unknown fate in a foreign land, as they themselves selves were being rounded up for transportation to the death camps. Trainloads of these children arrived in Britain with just a label round their necks to identify them.

One child, whose parents died in Auschwitz, remembers how her mother kissed her goodbye, then gazed at the night sky and told her that each evening when the child looked up, she would see in the stars her mother still looking after her.

Today, as we watch the pictures of the devastation left by the tsunami, some of the most extraordinary, heartbreaking stories also come from the mothers - women who have somehow survived the vicious battering by the sea.

Now like weary pilgrims they go from hospital to hospital, looking for the babies who were torn out of their arms, refusing to give up the search while there is still a glimmer of hope.

As time goes by, it, becomes less and less likely that their babies will be found alive, yet their courage forces them on. And, as Karin Svärd's story proves, miracles can and do happen.

One young mother was reunited with a baby which had been carried three kilometres from the village where they lived. The joy on her face when she found him lit up the television screen - a precious moment plucked from all the horror.

This weekend I had to let go the delicate, fragile hand that had held me so firmly when I was a child. My mother, Katherine, passed away.

She fought against her final illness like a champion, and although her life was hanging by a tiny thread on her final night, she refused to go until I arrived at her bedside on Sunday morning.

She was breathing with huge effort when I got to her side. Not sure she could still hear me, I spoke to her, I stroked her forehead, and then, with a sigh, she left me.

She was a clever, funny woman, mischievous, loving, and fought like a tiger to defend my sister and me whenever she felt we were threatened, whatever the odds.

I owe her so much - a happy secure childhood, the example she set of service to the community and loyalty to our family, and much else.

Her love gave me confidence and courage when I needed it. She was tiny and frail at the end, but the love she felt for me and my sister was still overpoweringly strong.

I know if she had been a young woman on that beach, watching me play in the path of the tidal wave, she would have run to save me, uncaring of any danger,

In many ways I, too, owe my life to that most powerful of emotions, my mother's love. A love so powerful that nothing not even nature's awesome fury - can destroy it.

How about this for size Toon?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...n-Britain.html
Is there any rule that says 'suffragettes' have to be woman as this veteran actor looks like he would be up for a campaign or two!?! I also wondered why Panorama's John Ware BBC2 programme on
Broken Britain had such a short time on the play again facility just a few days? Someone can't have liked it!

The target is to get Brown, Balls, Straw and even Harman talking about Family Law nad child welfare reform by Christmas are you up for it

In the UK it is simple to lobby your MP and local representatives by going to http://www.writetothem.com/

My letter to the Queen is only effective if a number of us do it otherwise you just get fobbed off with the pat letter from the Dept of Justice or CSF ( it is the same letter!)

UKIP are writing policy on this as we speek and will ask them to talk to John Hemming MP as at the moment seems the only Parliamentarian on side! http://www.fassit.co.uk/john_hemming_campaign.htm

This campaign is to work in unison with the US, Canada and Australian ones Good luck people!

Davey National;

If you contribute to the BBC or Daily Mail do not refer to me as daveyone or they will ban me again!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio2/F2...thread=7020921
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbarchers/F...thread=6814630

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ne...threadIndex=20

http://www.express.co.uk/myexpress/homepage/Daveyone

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sun_talk/
http://www.thesun.co.uk/discussions/...Talk-6401.page

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle5854230.ece
http://www.fassit.co.uk/john_hemming_campaign.htm

http://www.onlinetruckers.org/main/c...tml/Itemid,39/


Davey regional;

http://www.parents4protest.co.uk/p4p...ents_group.htm


http://forums.chroniclelive.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=21945
http://forums.chroniclelive.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=21944

http://forums.sundaymercury.net/viewtopic.php?t=1256
http://forums.sundaymercury.net/viewtopic.php?t=1814



http://www.lbc.co.uk/nick-ferrari-3466
http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-whale-3702
James Whale was diognosed with cancer (as my sister inlaw was) when his grand kids went awol as my children did and he has dedicated a chapter of his book (11 I think) to this period

More to follow and your suggestions are welcomed!


Davey International,

http://antimisandry.com/priority-new...ere-21956.html

http://antimisandry.com/priority-new...ere-21932.html

http://antimisandry.com/priority-new...ere-21931.html
http://www.f4joz.com/forum/index.php

Right on

BBC talks to BNP but never about Family Law, WHY?
We urgently need reform of Family Law and Child
Welfare in Britain that has such a devastating effect on
Children, families and society has a whole where in my
opinion a bigger threat is posed then that of Terrorism!
Yet the BBC shy’s away from any such debate and I for
one would be more then happy to sit in Nick Griffin’s
seat on the Question Time panel and talk with Camilla
Cavendish, John Hemming MP, Rt. Hon. Jack Straw, Deputy
PM Harriet Harman and CSF Minister Ed Balls and bring this
emotive subject higher on to the political agenda and remedy
the root cause of ‘Brocken Britain!’
(International Blogger Daveyone on Family Law and Child Welfare)

The bbc aught to talk about family law to the BNP. The man who came up with their family law policy is a much respected ex f4j activist.. Pete Molloy..

Usually I agree with much of what you say Haahoo as you know, but on this I am afraid I am at odds!

The F4J protests with superhero's climbing on things has proved counter productive and most people, as I did, will call it foolishs and ask are these guys fit to be fathers Having gone through the hell of the family Law system as I have and met with the worst extremities of what they do I do have empathy with what these guys are going through but people that have not will NOT understand and it is they we need on side!
I grew up in the 60's and earley 70's and there was always an NF presence and would not like to see a return to that and I will say from my political blogs elsewhere BNP/National Front only ever serve to divide and alienate and will pick on a subject to muster support coz they know they will never be a mainstream presence, almost like a cult they will pick on the weekest of society!

We need to get mainstem parties on board and for me UKIP will be more credible then the BNP ever will and Tory policiy revealed this week and as you and I have discussed could be the route to our way out of this in a good way as Grandparents are a noted source of commonsense and stability people will take this campaign more seriously especially if Gloria Hunniford becomes our Joanna Lumley on this

My own blog on Tuesday will be on this subject and will attempt to get
Gloria Hunniford Jame Whale and Jon Gaunt on the case, Watch this space