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    A Clear Victory For Vet Fathers

    Dateline: Washington D.C, USA
    By: Pitbull
    From: Glenn Sacks
    Via: The Honor Network


    A Clear Victory For Vet Fathers!

    Priority News Exchange Program News Item (PNEP)



    In the USA a bill will be signed into law by President Bush for vets (which are made up of a majority of males) to not fall under the Default Judgments of Judges (when vets in the field suffer in family court for not being present).

    This is a great step and has other provision that other non-vet fathers can look longingly at (like support payments being adjusted to lower wages being earned). There is still no guarantee that judges will rule in less biaed manner for male vets once they are present in court upon given leave, but the idea of ruling on cases when vets are in the field, and or cannot appear in court has ended in the US.

    Also any vet wishing to challenge any bias in favor of the ex-spouse will be on very firm ground in appealing the case to a higher courts, and likely bring much attention to the whole cause in the media to any judges in the feminists' pocket. Thus making judges walk on egg shells in such cases, or suffer the public's rage at the polls (as many US judges are elected by the voters under the individual state systems).


    So to any Bush haters out there it is time to pull in your horns a bit, for this president won't let vets be treated like the rest of the population. There may be hope for the Republicans yet? With the Canadian Tories cutting off government funds for feminist organizations it would see there is a friendlier face on the conservative side of the political spectrum for father's & men's rights to date.

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    Military service sometimes costs parents their children. For example, with the long deployments necessitated by the war, a military spouse can move to another state while his or her spouse is deployed, file for divorce, and then be virtually certain to gain custody through the divorce proceedings in the new state.

    Given service personnel’s limited ability to travel, the high cost of legal representation and travel, and the financial hardships created by child support and spousal support obligations, it is extremely difficult for deployed parents to fight for their parental rights. For many, their participation and meaningful role in their children’s lives ends—often permanently--the day they are deployed….

    …While some military parents face the loss of their children, others face prosecution and jail for child support obligations, which their service has rendered them unable to pay. Support orders are based on civilian pay, which is generally higher than active duty pay. When reservists are called up to active duty, they sometimes pay an impossibly high percentage of their income in child support.
    "Sure enough, they did in fact fast track a new bill, HR 4986 and the bill was cleared for the White House on 1/22/08 and presented to the President on 1/24/08. I was contacted today by Congressional and White House staff informing me that the President will sign this bill.

    The bill section reads:

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    "SEC. 584. PROTECTION OF CHILD CUSTODY ARRANGEMENTS FOR PARENTS WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES DEPLOYED IN SUPPORT OF A CONTINGENCY OPERATION.
    (a) PROTECTION OF SERVICEMEMBERS AGAINST DEFAULT JUDGMENTS.—Section 201(a) of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (50 U.S.C. App. 521

    (b) HR 4986 CPH is amended by inserting "including any child custody proceeding" after "proceeding."

    (b) STAY OF PROCEEDINGS WHEN SERVICEMEMBER HAS NOTICE.—Section 202(a) of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (50 U.S.C. App. 522(a)) is amended by inserting "including any child custody proceeding," after "civil action or proceeding."

    For Glenn Sacks full story click: http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1738





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    Re: A Clear Victory For Vet Fathers

    This is indeed good news. It removes one - but only one of many - egregious crime against men that are perpetrated daily by courts across the Anglosphere.

    But may this trickle turn into a tide.

    SAY not the struggle naught availeth,
    The labour and the wounds are vain,
    The enemy faints not, nor faileth,
    And as things have been they remain.

    If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars;
    It may be, in yon smoke conceal'd,
    Your comrades chase e'en now the fliers,
    And, but for you, possess the field.

    For while the tired waves, vainly breaking,
    Seem here no painful inch to gain,
    Far back, through creeks and inlets making,
    Comes silent, flooding in, the Main.

    And not by eastern windows only,
    When daylight comes, comes in the light;
    In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly!
    But westward, look, the land is bright!



    I have tried all my life to leave the place better than I found it.
    But there are 6 billion other buggers out there messing it up.
    I am outnumbered.
    But...
    YOU don't just make a difference,
    you make THE difference.

     
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    Re: A Clear Victory For Vet Fathers

    Means nothing! Anyone who gets their hopes raised by this insignificant legal drop of piss should think what it will lead to..

    MORE..

    False accusations..

    MORE...

    Court time wasting..

    MORE...

    Men thinking they have a leg to stand on and that the system is now moving in their favour.. The cruellest hoax..

    You dont fix bad law by layering another unworkable law on top of it..

    Dont go to court! Its the theatre for losers!


     
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    Re: A Clear Victory For Vet Fathers

    I find it pretty annoying actually when mens groups are touting shite like this as a "victory"..

    Get fucking real..

    The only victory is the enemies..

    They have convinced some silly buggers that the courts are the place to go, by making such fucking meaningless gestures to tempt men onto the road to destructive state control of family life.

    You can be sure, scales will fall off eyes.. too late..


     
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    Re: A Clear Victory For Vet Fathers

    Drex, this was a really bad thing for you to say.

    Timocrat was informing people of a victory for father's rights, and then you had to call it a "legal drop of piss", and act like this victory doesn't matter.

    Naughty Drex.


     
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    Re: A Clear Victory For Vet Fathers

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    Drex, this was a really bad thing for you to say.

    Timocrat was informing people of a victory for father's rights, and then you had to call it a "legal drop of piss", and act like this victory doesn't matter.

    Naughty Drex.
    Sorry, silly me..

    Someone has decided to not shit on Vets at full bore, they are taking a break, then, they will start shitting again and more..

    You miss my point..

    I just find it annoying when things like this are called "victories"..

    You want me to cheer the fucking feminazi's?

    Have we been so reduced as men that having been shit on constantly for long we think its a major achievement when the cunts pause to wipe their arses between dumps?

    No disrespect intended to any posters, but, reality is fucking reality..

    Shit is still shit..

    I wont be satified or impressed with what the Likes of mangina sacks thinks is a step forward when anyone with a few brain cells to rub together knows that this is NO FUCKING VICTORY!!


     
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    Re: A Clear Victory For Vet Fathers

    It reminds me of a story my father told me some years ago. Back in the 1970s he had a job working for a utility that was building a large hydroelectirc dam on the Columbia river. He would find all the owners of land that would be flooded for the pool behind the dam and try to negotiate a price and settlement fair to them. One piece of land belonged to a soldier who was about to be sent to Viet Nam.

    My father caught the next plane for the coast and caught up with the soldier at the airport about to board a plane for SE Asia. My father offered him 3 times the normal value of the land, and would have gone even higher to get the deal signed immediatly. A deployed soldier can't be served for "emminent domaine" while in a war zone. The utility would not have been able to proceed until the guy had returned if he had not sold his land before he left.

    It worked out good for everyone. The young man made tripple value for his piece of desert, and my father could close the book on the property.

    It's good to see that child custody has been added to the list of proceedings that can't be done to a deployed soldier.

    Blessings

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    Re: A Clear Victory For Vet Fathers

    Abolition of the whole concept of child support dictated by the state and their evil courts and laws. Thats a victory..


     
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