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    B地ai Brith Says Anti-Feminism Is a Hate Crime

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    B地ai Brith Says Anti-Feminism Is a Hate Crime

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    1998 saw the continued efforts of hatemongers trying to recruit new members and disseminate their message through various means. Businesses and individuals across Canada were targeted with hate pamphlets, letters and email replete with a myriad of classic antisemitic themes and hate propaganda, including Holocaust denial, anti-feminism and anti-Zionism.



    For full story click: http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit1998/audit1998-06.html





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    Re: B地ai Brith Says Anti-Feminism Is a Hate Crime

    This is an old document...1998

    But what is Anti-Feminism exactly in case of a hate-crime in the Jewish community? Something related to family life in Islam?

    I have no idea...


     
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    Re: B地ai Brith Says Anti-Feminism Is a Hate Crime

    It's because men are pigs and that's unkosher.

    They know who I am and if they want to reconvene the discussion in front of Rosie Abella BRING IT ON!!


     
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    [quote=Timocrat;53605]B地ai Brith Says Anti-Feminism Is a Hate Crime
    For full story click: http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit1998/audit1998-06.html[/quote]
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    Re: B地ai Brith Says Anti-Feminism Is a Hate Crime

    Bnai Brith are not religious Jews, they are secular liberals who use their Jewish surnames to make people think Judaism supports their filth and garbage.

    I've spoken out against groups like that for a long time, but unfortunately they seem to have more free time on their hands than I do.



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    Bnai Brith are not religious Jews, they are secular liberals who use their Jewish surnames to make people think Judaism supports their filth and garbage.

    I've spoken out against groups like that for a long time, but unfortunately they seem to have more free time on their hands than I do.
    In my honest opinion I have to say B地ai Brith has HAD HER HEAD IN HER ASS FOR FAR TOO LONG!!!!!!!!!



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    Re: B地ai Brith Says Anti-Feminism Is a Hate Crime

    From what I gather, this B'nai Brith group is complaining about Holocaust denial and anti-feminism in Canada (I lumped the complaint of Anti-Zionism into Holocaust denial because when they went into the "Anti-zionist complaints, they were really just more Holocaust denial complaints.)

    With regards to their grievences, the B'nai Brith group is batting 0.4 for 2 and here's how that breaks down:

    Complaint #1: Holocaust denial


    This complaint, in a pure form, is legitimate. As I've said many times before, the Holocaust denying nutballs have been given a chance to see reason, and they still continue to desecrate the memories of the Holocaust dead with their lies, so clearly as I've said before, the only way to deal with them at this point is to put them in prison where they will be removed from society and can't defile the memories of the Holocaust dead anymore.

    But from reading the article, I find the complaint to have a presumptuous nature in which the complaintants somehow seem to think (and I'm picking this up from their tone) that just because they are also Jewish, they were aggrieved by the Holocaust, even though they were never in it. And by extension, that they deserve special status from the Canadian government just because they (the supposed aggrieved party) happen to live in Canada, when the Holocaust never took place in Canada at all. I'm sorry, but that doesn't fly.

    Also it makes no sense why they're sending complaints to the Canadian government about this. Any legitimate concern that they might have about the aggrieved parties (i.e. the Holocaust dead) being harmed by the nutballs, they shouldn't be bothering the Canadian government with. Clearly the European governments would be the ones to talk to about it, since the Holocaust victims that are being defamed by the nutballs died in Europe, not in Canada.

    If it's the case that Ernst Zundel, as they say, is distributing Holocaust denial material worldwide, and if he's distributing material to countries in Europe that were aggrieved by the Holocaust, then this group needs to take their complaints to the relevant European governments so that the nutballs can be extradited to those countries to answer for distributing Holocaust denial materials to those countries -- I really don't know how they got the idea that the Canadian government was the government to go to about this.

    Final analysis for this point: 0.4/1.0

    Complaint#2: Anti-Feminism

    This is a wholly illegitimate complaint, and furthermore has nothing to do with Judaism at all, so not only is it illegitimate, I really have no idea why it even exists in their list of antisemitic incidents/complaints.

    (As Maus has said,) Feminism is not a race, people, or gender. Feminism is a political ideology. And it should be within people's free speech rights to criticize a political ideology that they don't like.

    I think this one's pretty open-and-shut,

    Final analysis for this point: 0.0/1.0

    So like I said, we're looking at 0.4 for 2.



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    "B'nai Brith"?? Is that anything like Bara Brith, traditional Welsh speckled bread??



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    Re: B地ai Brith Says Anti-Feminism Is a Hate Crime

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    B地ai Brith should be a hate crime.

    What Jews learned from the Nazis was how to do hate. B'nai Brith is Jewish femiNazi. They adopted the whole Nazi program and substituted "Men" fof "Jew." They have no more moral value than the Nazi they have hated for a lifetime.

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    Re: B地ai Brith Says Anti-Feminism Is a Hate Crime

    Just for the record Luke, Ernst Zundel was deported to Germany where there is a zero tollerance for any sort of Nazi advocacy. He is now in prison.

    The whole "hate speach" law was spear headed by a Liberal named Heddy Fry (heddy-up-her-assy).

    She threw an attention whore hissy fit in Parliment saying that there were crosses burning on the lawns in Burnaby British Columbia.

    So far only four charges have ever been laid under provisions of this law and it is only the Attorney General of Canada who can lay the charge.

    This frequently gets confused with "hate motivated" crime and provisions of Provincial Human Rights Acts.

    It is not a federal offence to bad mouth the opposite sex. The court case on the 28th of this month between BC FATHERS and Status of Women Canada was over the recommendation that bad mouthing feminists should be made a hate crime.

    The only group of lawyers ho take on freedom of speach issues pro bono in Canada is completely feminist commandeered. They pride themselves in what they have done for radical lesbians.

    Open your yellow pages and look under lawyers.....if you want to know who the enemy actually is....there is the list....the rest are just pathetic wannabees.


     
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    I'm going to say something as a Jewish woman which may shock you.
    I support total free speech. If people want to deny the Nazi genocide, I don't care. I know it happened, my kids know it happened, and the schools (at least here in the USA) teach that it happened.

    The historical facts prove it happened. How can a small bunch of deniers of it make anything change? It sometimes mystifies me that many of my co-religionists are so outspoken to silence people who feel it did not happen. What do we have to fear from it?

    Having been the victim of people who tried to silence me on various occasions (mostly feminists but also other liberals), I tend to believe we should let everybody say whatever the hell it is they want to say. Sometimes if you let them SAY it, the words won't turn to action.


     
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    There is an irony here:
    Zionists want us to remember a Jewish holocaust that some deny ever happened.

    But feminists want us to believe in a gender holocaust that never did happen, a systematic oppression of women and the defeat of matriarchy by patriarchy. They are just as much historical revisionists as people like Ernst Zundel.



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    I'm going to say something as a Jewish woman which may shock you.
    I support total free speech. If people want to deny the Nazi genocide, I don't care. I know it happened, my kids know it happened, and the schools (at least here in the USA) teach that it happened.

    The historical facts prove it happened. How can a small bunch of deniers of it make anything change? It sometimes mystifies me that many of my co-religionists are so outspoken to silence people who feel it did not happen. What do we have to fear from it?

    Having been the victim of people who tried to silence me on various occasions (mostly feminists but also other liberals), I tend to believe we should let everybody say whatever the hell it is they want to say. Sometimes if you let them SAY it, the words won't turn to action.
    I think that's a wonderfully civilised viewpoint. Speaks very well of your character .


     
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    I think that's a wonderfully civilised viewpoint. Speaks very well of your character .
    Whew! I was afraid I'd get bashed for saying that!

    I want to point something else out (and keep in mind I am not only a Jew but a religious Jew, so don't call me an "antisemite")....

    Has anyone ever noticed that Holocaust movies, documentaries, etc (at least in the USA) seem to air in cycles? Ever wonder why that is?

    Although I will be the first to say that YES the Nazi genocide did happen (I lost at least 3 family members to it), The overkill of it is for a very carefully crafted purpose.

    The zionists sought to use the Nazi genocide to garner world sympathy for a Jewish state after the war. It succeeded beyond their wildest hopes.

    But many people worldwide (myself included) have become very critical of the zionist (not really Jewish) state since its founding, esp. in regard to its treatment of Palestinians and ultraorthodox Jews in their midst.

    So in order to KEEP sheeple supporting their state, they cyclically air Holocaust shows, so as to keep it in the forefront of everyone's minds, so people will support the zionist state out of sympathy for the Jews who died in the genocide.

    The truly sad thing is: the secular zionists during the war worked to KEEP many ultrareligious Jews IN Europe, so Hitler would kill them...they felt that the more Jews who died, the better their chances of getting their state after the war. And mostly all of those very religious Jews were in fact anti-zionist (the traditional Jewish faith is anti-zionist...for more info see http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com


     
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    I'm going to say something as a Jewish woman which may shock you.
    I support total free speech. If people want to deny the Nazi genocide, I don't care. I know it happened, my kids know it happened, and the schools (at least here in the USA) teach that it happened.

    The historical facts prove it happened. How can a small bunch of deniers of it make anything change? It sometimes mystifies me that many of my co-religionists are so outspoken to silence people who feel it did not happen. What do we have to fear from it?

    Having been the victim of people who tried to silence me on various occasions (mostly feminists but also other liberals), I tend to believe we should let everybody say whatever the hell it is they want to say. Sometimes if you let them SAY it, the words won't turn to action.
    I am going to say something as a great admirer of the Jewish culture...I am glad to make your aquaintance.

    Sorry about jumping to a previous conclusion about a similarity between the moniker "IRON LADY" and "WOMAN OF STEELE"...it's just my sense of pattern recognition and my Sherlock Holmes type suspicion of co-incidence....nothing personal.

    I once bought a whole collection of books at an estate sale of a Jewish doctor on the Holocaust...it took me months to read them and twice as many months to get over the depression....I later gave them to a Jewish lawyer who collects these sort of books.

    As long as EVERYONE has freedom of speach and can reply to the ranters in kind there is no danger of this happening again. There is very real danger when the aggrieved are not permitted to express their grievances.

    Presently, one of the best firebrand defenders of free speach in Canada and one of the most strident critics of attempts by Jewish organizations to suppress it is a certain Ezra Levant...I am a big fan of his. That being said Ezra is as awesome as the prophet Elijah when it comes to rebuking the Baalim.


     
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