Just ensure one of the first measures undertaken by any prospective shelter for men, is to apply for charity status.

Once that's done, as feminists have done for decades, the concerns of abused men can be platformed from acknowledged positions that trickle uncomfortably into politics.

With 23 days set to raise such a large figure... I don't really suspect it will happen

If you are a male suffering from abuse, your dog may have a better chance than you of finding shelter.

Says it all.

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With 23 days set to raise such a large figure... I don't really suspect it will happen

I thought so too, but it could just be that the figure they want is "as much as possible" and that was only set because the system wouldn't allow it without a set goal.

Funding is real complicated and men's refuges is not something men want to do.

In my early days knowing of the men's movement, an older feminist told me to be careful and made me swear I would not let men use me. MRAs straight away wanted me to run a men's refuge, straight away wanted me to promote marriage (stupid thing for a single parent group to do, lol) and more.

Unless I see a man step up to run a men's refuge, I will say the same as the government and councils - "If you want to do this, we will show you how and back you". If people want to give money to a cause and men don't want to do the cause, then that's that. Men are in charge of men!!!

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Funding is real complicated and men's refuges is not something men want to do.

In my early days knowing of the men's movement, an older feminist told me to be careful and made me swear I would not let men use me. MRAs straight away wanted me to run a men's refuge, straight away wanted me to promote marriage (stupid thing for a single parent group to do, lol) and more.

Unless I see a man step up to run a men's refuge, I will say the same as the government and councils - "If you want to do this, we will show you how and back you". If people want to give money to a cause and men don't want to do the cause, then that's that. Men are in charge of men!!!

Julie, you're a good sort indeed.

But here's a hard (metaphorical) smack around the 'misled' head regarding the origins of domestic violence shelters:

When Erin Pizzey founded the UK charity Refuge in 1971, she intended it for men and women, as she believed domestic violence wasn't gender specific. She noted how many of the women entering the shelter were as violent, or more, then the men they were escaping from, and that many were victims within lesbian relationships (who account for the highest rate per capita).

She also said how many of the women were routinely physically abusing children, but social workers attached to the shelter were involved in a culture of silence, as ideology was paramount above the safety of children. At this point Pizzey was ironically being physically bullied by feminists who hijacked what she had started.

She then wrote a book 'Prone to Violence' which unveiled women's violence & the truth about the 'shelter industry.' It caused such a stink with feminists, they organized a worldwide effort to either en masse buy the book or steal it from libraries (they couldn't possibly contemplate the power of the net back then). Reason why you can only download it vs reading a hardback copy. Feminists then made threats at several of her book signings, her dog was killed and she was forced to flee to New Zealand in fear of her life.

There has never been anything resembling what MRAs have done compared to what feminists inflicted upon Erin Pizzey. And while feminists often claim/cite her, she grew to loathe feminism and would certainly never describe herself as so. She remains ensconced in a position she began upon 40 years ago, that domestic violence is a people thing, not a gender thing.

State funding won't similarly follow the concerns of men because men are a more stubborn voting beast than the greater numbers of pliable female voters.

Just ensure one of the first measures undertaken by any prospective shelter for men, is to apply for charity status.

As far as I know,in Canada a d.v. shelter for men does not qualify for charitable status.

Even the idea is outright banned.

I know because I have tried.

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When Erin Pizzey founded the UK charity Refuge in 1971,

I don't know what else to say except it's 2012.
I have had good discussion with Erin.

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As far as I know,in Canada a d.v. shelter for men does not qualify for charitable status.

Even the idea is outright banned.

I know because I have tried.

May I ask how you tried?

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I don't know what else to say except it's 2012.
I have had good discussion with Erin.

So because I post uncomfortable information which dislodges the feminist rhetoric, you're cool ignoring the past and just fast-forwarding to the current day?

But the very foundation of feminism is built upon constantly reviving the past, as hyperbolic as it may be.

It doesn't work like that in a real vision of equality. Just as feminists would have relentlessly pushed a contrary position no matter how old, I'm pushing forth the uncomfortable research I've unveiled which smashes in the propaganda face,like it or not.

As an MRA my assertions take greater form through sheer perseverance and tenacity in compiling irrefutable evidence. I become a parent to a mutated child that is feminism.

May I ask how you tried?

It was about 5 years ago,I went through all of the suggestions and connection's given to me by my local m.p..

Men simply do not qualify for any charitable status whatsoever.

It is not even an option.

I hit so many brick walls,I was starting to get a head-ache.

I hope you documented it all. That story could make a fascinating article for discussion and reference to turn MP's to in order to demonstrate the inequalities men face from word go.

I had everything at one time.

Lost everything since.

I've always wanted to see a shelter for battered men even if I made one up myself. But then it's be recieved badly because people will thinking im mocking them.

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I've always wanted to see a shelter for battered men even if I made one up myself. But then it's be received badly because people will thinking im mocking them.

Haruhi, amid everything, your a growing positive input on the forum.

I've always wanted to see a shelter for battered men even if I made one up myself.

Used to be my thoughts,untill I saw what I was up against.

Then I became a mra.