I am starting to think (well, have done for a while!) that the mrm is moving away from the organisational side of things.. Groups like F4j are no longer achieving anything at all, men have been reduced to twitterring to each other in politically correct language and fuck all can be achieved under such circumstances and with the self imposed constraints and the states laws making all protests basically illegal if not impossible, its looking like men have to create their own personal strategies and hope for the best..

So, its definately a case of men going their own way for now, and I wonder if the effeminisers will prevent any revolution or if there is hope that the next generation of men may find the balls that the current generation have put in the feminists handbags..

Ultimately, the ballot box will have to be the way in any democracy, I wonder just how much faith we can in have in any political party that promises change..

No doubt they wont change much..

Give me a shout in 10 years, I may come and check if anything has happened, but, I doubt it!!

We cant do much right now, I mean we can do a good deal, but most of its probaly going to be left up to the next generation to really make big changes.

"The Lord tells me he can get *me* out of this mess, but He's pretty sure you're fucked."

-- Stephen to William Wallace while under fire from English archers at Stirling

This poll gives me hope..

Most folk see withdrawal from the systems of abuse as the way.. In second place, many see us as having lost..

Put the 2 together and we have an ability to recognise that not much can be done by just talking, few people want to wait for the next generation to sort things, and violence just aint really on the agenda..

So, lets promote massive withdrawal from the statists feminazi systems!

Note that noone has expressed a wish to shape feminism from within..

Seems that the MRM does not wish to infiltrate the Feminist Movement..

On the other hand, it would be interesting to see how many people believe that feminists are actively seeking to direct and control the MRM from within?

if you want to win you have to decide what it is you are winning?

once you've done that, 1000000 years later,

then you have to write posters and go and hand them out in the town centre, supermarkets, colleges, anywhere you will find males who would be sympathetic to your cause, given time to consider it.

you also need a place they can further their interest, like an internet forum, or website, and advertise it at the bottom of the propaganda you hand out.

simple innit?

I, personally, am amazed that, at least in America, we survived FDR. I think that it will take a generation of Gen Xers to really change things, and it won't be just men's rights that they reinstate. But, it won't be this generation of Gen Xers. Until then, we are just a bunch of gamblers in the casino hoping to win big. We keep shovelling quarters into the slot machines imagining that we are due for a lucky streak any moment now. But, for us, there is no way to leave the casino. So, a losing game though it may be, there is no reason to lose our shirts all at once which is why we should fight to minimize our losses and to stave off for as long as possible what history and people on both sides of the political spectrum seem to agree is inevitable.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson

“Both for the production on a mass scale of this communist consciousness, and ... the alteration of men on a mass scale is, necessary, ... a revolution; this revolution is necessary, therefore, not only because the ruling class cannot be overthrown in any other way, but also because the class overthrowing it can only in a revolution succeed in ridding itself of all the muck of ages and become fitted to found society anew.”
-- Karl Marx

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if you want to win you have to decide what it is you are winning?

once you've done that, 1000000 years later,

then you have to write posters and go and hand them out in the town centre, supermarkets, colleges, anywhere you will find males who would be sympathetic to your cause, given time to consider it.

you also need a place they can further their interest, like an internet forum, or website, and advertise it at the bottom of the propaganda you hand out.

simple innit?

Thats what I like, practical thinking!

guerilla techniques can work but only if
1. minimization of collateral damage-------------no marc lepines, for instance a radical feminazi proffessor could be targeted via sniper rifle, as cosa nostra used to, but to bomb the classroom/building would be counterproductive because of collateral damage
2. no use of rape as a weapon
3. property rather than people should be the mai target(for example a NOW building at 2:30am when no one is there is as good or better than a messy bloody mess)
4. clear cut demands and keeping the peace when and if any are met

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guerilla techniques can work but only if
1. minimization of collateral damage-------------no marc lepines, for instance a radical feminazi proffessor could be targeted via sniper rifle, as cosa nostra used to, but to bomb the classroom/building would be counterproductive because of collateral damage
2. no use of rape as a weapon
3. property rather than people should be the mai target(for example a NOW building at 2:30am when no one is there is as good or better than a messy bloody mess)
4. clear cut demands and keeping the peace when and if any are met

I disagree with your limits. Gurilla tactics can inlcuded many variations of selected violence. It is effective to assasinate selected leaders of the oposition, but it is also effective to create general fear among the enemy supporters. Many females can be easily terrorized and they will demand "peace" even if it means surrender to men. Most of the rest will be sexually attracted to men strong enough to take control.

The problem with the pole is that it supposes that we have to choose only 1 method. The successful method will be to use them all concurrently except "we are fucked" capitulation.

Blessings

Bob

We need not necessarily initiate violence. A tax strike might do the job. If only 10% of men suddenly refuse to pay taxes, the whole system will be put in jeopardy. This is something that we can do for ourselves. The initiative lies with us. We have to get the message out to as many men as possible and get them organized.Of course, the State will not react well to being deprived of oxygen. Arrests will be made, men will be ruined, there will be struggle and confusion. It is unavoidable that somewhere along the line violence will be involved, either by them, us or third parties.In the end, however, we men are the ones upholding this system. When Atlas shrugs the world as we know it will fall. We need to be united, we need to be many and we need to be determined.Like a union. -Sad Geek

Sad Geek is correct taxation is the way. This can only come from unity of action, but we prefer to be picked off one by one. The only thing I'd add to his great idea is we need a media of our own to show everyone what is happening, and not be ignored as the system will hammer the big media if they cover such a story! With out our own media, and redundencies to keep it up, we are likely to see the MSM ignoring those who make the effort. There are many who refuse now, but we don't hear of them much now do we! Even violence will be ignored so action must have coverage or who will know? Men are funding the system, as we keep saying , so stop funding the Medusa system. Sad Geek has the answer here, and with the debt and baby boomers retiring they are screwed if we get enough men to take their money from them.

MGTOWs are already doing this, libertarians would love to do this and those who have left there home countries are also not paying into the system, so we are already doing this in many ways. Let's just formalize it and give people as much tax avoidence stategy if they don't want to go all the way, so they can still help by starving the system.

Staravation.. Put the state to siege..

As tax revenues drop and men refuse to work, the state will not be able to afford to run itself..

If they cant fund the huge increases on police and army (they will likely join the men!!) they will have to make cuts in slut welfare schemes..

Until men are incentivised again.. we should not pay into the statists coffers.. Drain them.. starve them..

The vote? Hmm! that would probably be the ultimate objective, but. realistically, its no use at this stage... No one thinks there is a problem till one has neen created!!

What will the parties do when they see men striking?

They will react..

At first, they will react against the men..

The men have always caved in so far..

Are we going to act like mice forever?

Better to die on our feet than live on our knees..

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Staravation.. Put the state to siege..

As tax revenues drop and men refuse to work, the state will not be able to afford to run itself..

If they cant fund the huge increases on police and army (they will likely join the men!!) they will have to make cuts in slut welfare schemes..

Until men are incentivised again.. we should not pay into the statists coffers.. Drain them.. starve them..

The vote? Hmm! that would probably be the ultimate objective, but. realistically, its no use at this stage... No one thinks there is a problem till one has neen created!!

What will the parties do when they see men striking?

They will react..

At first, they will react against the men..

The men have always caved in so far..

Are we going to act like mice forever?

Better to die on our feet than live on our knees..

As more and more good working men leave the country, move their corporations overseas, and go with them, tax revenue will drop. As more and more men choose to eschew feminazi college training and work in manual labor, tax revenue will drop. As the feminazi import more and more uneducated illegal alien workers who don't pay taxes and demand schools and welfare state budgets will collapse. They already are collapsing in many places. Look for bankrupt governments coming to a state near you soon.

Blessings

Bob

young men should not sign the peonage contract and should avoid situations where they can be fitted with the fathering of a child of a feminist who will duly nail his ball to the oak tree in gratitude