Thread: The term Masculism, a good alternative word for Men's Rights?

Quote from Tyrael

Who here thinks the term Masculism is a good alternative word for Men's Rights.
Masculism = Men's Rights
Masculist = Men's Rights Activist
Masculist Movement = Men's Rights Movement.
What I dread is that when people hear the term Masculist they will simply think it's the polar opposite of feminism and thus give it negative connotations.

Masculism is a good positive word. Feminists don't like it (they try to deprecate it by calling it 'masculinism') but they get the message. Feminists' prefer to depict us in a negative light by calling us 'anti-feminists' (or 'antis') or 'non-feminists'.

Don't like us being called MRAs, acronyms are not good.

Masculism is in some ways a counterpart to feminism but certainly not an opposite. Whereas feminism is gender-based and gender-biased I believe that masculism should take a broader view of itself and be concerned with society as a complete whole.

Masculism is just another -ism. I don't think it will go down well in the long run, given the corrosive nature of modern public debate.

Men's Rights Movement sounds much better. A bit like Civil Rights Movement.

Undecided for me, but to the feminized general public it may be seen with negative connotations which could possibly slow "our movements" growth into the public eye, as well as Im tired of all the -isms, I still prefer Fidelbogen's Non-Feminist Movement for these reasons,but for now Men's Rights Movement suits it well enough.

off-topic:

-ism basically means beleif or doctrine or something around there, so does the MRM have any central doctrine/beleif to it?

masculism is probably a fitting label for a movement that is clearly a copycatting of feminism..

Having said that, I dont like that aspect of the movement anyway..

I dont like the term "Mens rights" either, because I dont believe in the concept of rights, as that clearly shows that men demanding "rights" are just as much "entitlement princes" as the feminists are..

"Rights" are something that has to be provided by others.. I.E. in the modern soceity, the state.. This is not my idea of what i would like to see..

The movement needs a new title, thats for sure, if it is going to appeal and get the correct message across..

I suggest something that is Not gender specific, something that suggests freedom, and a sense of duty.. Not one of "entitlement" as the rights label suggest..

Family Freedom Fighters?

Family libertists?

Quote from the sad geek

Masculism is just another -ism. I don't think it will go down well in the long run, given the corrosive nature of modern public debate.

Men's Rights Movement sounds much better. A bit like Civil Rights Movement.

I agree with that. "Masculism" sounds a bit too much like "me too" feminism and inspires a lot of instant resentment.

Blessings

Bob

I find 'masculist' a daft term.

I am happy with MRA, in-house.

I do not seek special rights for men just as I object strenuously for special rights for women. I work for equal rights for all adults, and where specific aspects of gender may be appropriate - such as gynacology and BallsandDickology - I am quite happy that they be treated differently but funded and applied equally.

Equal Rights as a term has been distorted by marxist-feminists, just as the marxists captured and tortured 'Peace'. Perhaps, along with FFFF (nice to have a point of agreement) a focus - as in this board - on Anti-Misandry would be better recieved by the public, and a term 'Mutual Rights Activist' could be used to effect.

So, how about AMA, Anti-Misandry Acivist, or MRA, Mutual Rights Activist.

Quote from Tyrael

What I dread is that when people hear the term Masculist they will simply think it's the polar opposite of feminism and thus give it negative connotations.

Agreed. We are not like feminists. Our heads are still on planet earth. We do not want people to think that we are just as flaky as the feminists, it just wouldnt be fair.

Just like some people think that misandry is the polar opposite of misogyny, two very different phenomena.

My objection to all equality based arguments is that natural male chivalry and natural female "entitlement to chivalry" will create the situation thus..

Men give to women, therfore in a equalist environment men will give up a percentage of their share to impress women. 50-50 becomes 25-75!

That will always make women effectively dominant wont it?

I remember the folk talking about the man who had got his car trapped on a railway line.

It was crushed by a train and resulted in many deaths on that train.

The man died trying to get his car off the tracks when it was hit..

All the women who heard that story said how stupid he was, he should have saved himself!

The men all said that they too would have tried their best to remove the obvious risk to the greater number.

That is a fundamental "man thing" it seems..

Equality?

Yeah, sure!! Aint ever possible!

Activists who are against the term and use of ideological masculism are newbies to the movement or naive about what we are facing. You can't fight an all powerful ideology with your hands tied behind your back by not using a counter ideology. Masculism confronts feminism directly using all the intellectual, organizational and ideological tools at the disposal of the opposition.

We need all the help we can get and that includes the patriarchal religious. If they can have feminists in their churches they sure as heck can have masculists. I would also make them much more effective at promoting their true religion.

Tom Smith
American Union of Men (AUM)

No I don’t like it.
We need to appeal to the masses and un-wash their brains from the feminist lies they have absorbed over the decades. Less chance of that happening if we identify with a tern that marginalises us. Even though most women are convenient feminists and readily exploit misandry for their selfish gains, I see a small but increasing number of them wishing to distance themselves from what they see as extremist feminists. I see potential in us developing that rift and promoting the view that the feminist are of a man hating, neurotically unbalanced and unfeminine mindset that wrongly presume to speak for all women.

So I don’t think that identifying ourselves as simply the male opposite of feminists would be conducive to this strategy. Although the masses (convenient feminists and manginas) shit on us at the moment, I believe there is potential to turn them into marginalising the feminists.

In fact I am not even that satisfied with the term MRA/MRM if we are to change the opinion of the masses; far better to have EMRA/EMRM for ‘equalitist’ MRM. Putting in equalitist (E) as a prefix is more likely to gradually gain the respect and support of the masses.

We need to widen our appeal, not marginalise ourselves. I believe that applying strategies to marginalise feminists to the wider public is where potential success will be found.

Quote from Percy

So, how about AMA, Anti-Misandry Acivist, or MRA, Mutual Rights Activist.

Yeah I’m quite supportive of these terms as well.

Quote from Trauma Fried Brains

Yeah I’m quite supportive of these terms as well.

Gender-Equality Activist
Masculist reminds me too much of Fernando Lamas or Ricardo Montalban.
(Eye ahm uh mask-you-leest. Eye wheel now do dee Flamenco for jiew.)

I prefer MGTOW men going their own way as it is direct and lets the feminits parasites know upfront the party is over