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The left is full of racism and sexism here in the U.S.

They claim that Conservatives are the sexists and racists but in fact we are not the ones who treat women and minorities like incompetent children who must be protected from the boogey man that is the white male.

It is the left that pushes for ever more loose definitions of DV and rape. So much to the point that the words have lost all meaning.

It is the leftists that resorts to name calling when their arguments fail. They throw around words like racist and misogynist any time some one proves them wrong on an issue.

I am sure there are leftists out there that do not behave this way. In fact it is probably just a few very loud leftists. But in my opinion the rest of them are complicit in that they do not tell these obnoxious liars to be silent and to just tell the truth.

I deteset Liberalism and feminism to the core of my being. And the thing that sickens me the most is that I used to be both a Liberal and pro feminist.

Most political philosophies are neutral when it comes to sexism and racism or some other ism-phobia in them. I'm more inclined to blame the people themselves and how they apply the philosophy. The right and left also have different sub philosophies in them and each of them have very different views on how things should be. A traditional(as in traditional 1950's gender roles) conservative and a right-libertarian are going to have very different perspectives on social issues, just as a progressive liberal and an anarchist are going to have different perspectives.

As the resident filthy filthy liberal/progressive I am going to be the one who says no it is not. Feminism is primarily on the left. But lets look at why:

During the civil rights movement, many minorities and other groups fled towards the left because they were given the opportunity for power, and to this day the left is the one that fights for things like VAWA, Planned Parenthood, Affirmative Action and so on.

Yes, the left has a feminism problem, and it pisses me off. When you vote you have to do the whole cost/benefit analysis and choose the least evil politician.

Regarding what Chevalier said about us being the real sexists/racists affirmative action is not treating people like children, it is giving disenfranchised people the opportunity they need. Now I believe it should be based more in economic class than race/gender but let's be realistic, racism is still well and alive and discriminating in america today and needs to be fought against, both through the government and third parties.

The overwhelming majority of the left is not racist or sexist (though i do admit they exist) and there are some radical liberals who have a white guilt complex, but they are even less effective than the average liberal. The vast majority of liberals disagree with michael moore's extremity and there is no one more fucking liberal than he is. With weiner now having to keep his mouth shut the average guy on the left has no real fighters left in the government anyways.

Perhaps just a tendency, but I see general leftism/liberalism etc to be stupid in the same way as is feminism, only not as dangerous and harmful. Political correctness, in my mind, is just sanctimonious brownie-point-scoring, which positively makes my skin crawl. I'm a good person, and I don't need to advertise how non-racist/sexist I am, whilst at the same time BEING racist and sexist (i.e. against whites and men), to 'prove' this; shame so many bird-brained pillocks DO....

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stuff about statist leftists

Please don't paint all leftists as statist lefties, some of us want to abolish all forms of inequality through very radical means

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Please don't paint all leftists as statist lefties, some of us want to abolish all forms of inequality through very radical means

Anarchy is far from the left, its generally so extreme its off in its own world

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Anarchy is far from the left, its generally so extreme its off in its own world

Most anarchists disagree. Though some argue that we are "post-left", we still focus on traditional leftist concerns(anti-war, social justice, and so forth).

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Most anarchists disagree. Though some argue that we are "post-left", we still focus on traditional leftist concerns(anti-war, social justice, and so forth).

But modern political affiliation often has more to do with the solutions proposed than the concerns. Almost no one outside of the military industrial complex is pro-war but that doesn't make them on the left.

Again this is why I say politics are nuanced. The more anti-authoritorian you are, the more libertarian you are but what that economically means is based on your economic conclusions. I think capitalism is by it's nature authoritorian and therefore I'm against it. Some right-libertarians think less taxes and more economic "freedom" is libertarian. I disagree, obviously. The only way you can have a libertarian society is if everyone is equally free, in my opinion, and having people be wage slaves happy little workers filled with sunshine to their owners bosses is not libertarian.. Most people are more mainstream with their views and are libertarian in some views and authoritorian in others and are all over economically left and right.

Things are nuanced for a damn good reason. Because rarely are things in black and white.

You keep blending authoritarianism with structuralism, capitalism works of regulated. There is a need for rules, it keeps us from killing eachother. Why do you think we even have small claims courts? Remember this talk-it is designed to regulate petty justice so an eye for an eye is kept in place and it is determined by a third party if you even owe an eye at all. I know your stance is that without a sense of property there will be significantly less crime. Perhaps this is true on a micro level, but it will fail on a macro level especially in a globalized world where things are not equally dispersed. You also don't factor in crimes of passion that occur in a blind rage that will never happen again. These people would often go unpunished wouldnt they? I know you push for communal rehabilitation and education (and I do too) but you can't do that without some sort of authority figure managing problems, and a collective authority to deem someone guilty.

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is a need for rules,

Anarchy means "without leaders" not without rules.

and a collective authority to deem someone guilty

YES you CAN.

but power works inward, as long as you have rules, you will eventually develop a leader

and anarchists might not be interested in vengeance, but not everyone is going to be an anarchist. You also forget the big problems with expulsion of society. First, it is a collective authority deeming someone guilty and kicking them out. Then. you get angry hordes of outside enemies attack. Also, you then have a strong point of curving normality. I know you say there will be a mutual happy go lucky tolerance and complete freedom, but people aren't that accepting and communities will reject anyone who shows any sign of deviance.

but not everyone is going to be an anarchist.

Not yet. No one, not even anarchists think change happens over night. If the change is gradual and voluntary(why do you think there are anarchist activists? I don't go food not bombing and other related activities for nothing! >.<) then by the time an anarchist society does come into being, most if not all people will be anarchists, by choice. We're not some pissed off teenagers, pissed off because mother dearest grounded us. We actually are adults who do work to making the change neccesary to establish anarchy and equality.

First, it is a collective authority deeming someone guilty and kicking them out. Then. you get angry hordes of outside enemies attack.

I thought the article said that there was going to be prisons in place of banishment? The idea of a prison is that it's a place of rehabilitation and there is only few legitimate crimes. We're not kicking them out.

I know you say there will be a mutual happy go lucky tolerance and complete freedom, but people aren't that accepting and communities will reject anyone who shows any sign of deviance.

That's an over-simplified version of my view point or what any anarchist believes. We KNOW that there are going to be people that aren't going to have our tolerant views, we all know that. Changing people's views and values are very real goals. We KNOW that anarchy won't work unless these views are curbed and changed. I'm pretty individualistic in my view points but there are others that are collectivists. Most of us are a mix between the two.