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    As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police.

    The new home secretary Theresa May has, as one of the her first decisions, concede more power to the police to arrest and charge a suspect without a solicitor being present at the time of interrogation of the suspect.
    Those "black shirted" police officers are delighted that her decision wil shorten the time for achieving a quick prosecution, hence, increasing the number of convictions.

    In real life it will mean that a man accused of domestic violence by a woman will be arrested, charged and sent to prison without even the advice of a lawyer on his rights, never mind whether the accusations are true or not.

    Article 6 reads as follows.
    “1.In the determination of his civil rights and obligations or of any criminal charge against him, everyone is entitled to a fair and public hearing within a reasonable time by an independent and impartial tribunal established by law. Judgement shall be pronounced publicly but the press and public may be excluded from all or part of the trial in the interest of morals, public order or national security in a democratic society, where the interests of juveniles or the protection of the private life of the parties so require, or the extent strictly necessary in the opinion of the court in special circumstances where publicity would prejudice the interests of justice. 2.Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law.
    3.Everyone charged with a criminal offence has the following minimum rights:
    (a) to be informed promptly, in a language which he understands and in detail, of the nature and cause of the accusation against him; (b) to have adequate time and the facilities for the preparation of his defence; (c) to defend himself in person or through legal assistance of his own choosing or, if he has not sufficient means to pay for legal assistance, to be given it free when the interests of justice so require; (d) to examine or have examined witnesses against him and to obtain the attendance and examination of witnesses on his behalf under the same conditions as witnesses against him; (e) to have the free assistance of an interpreter if he cannot Article 6 reads as follows.
    “1.In the determination of his civil rights and obligations or of any criminal charge against him, everyone is entitled to a fair and public hearing within a reasonable time by an independent and impartial tribunal established by law. Judgement shall be pronounced publicly but the press and public may be excluded from all or part of the trial in the interest of morals, public order or national security in a democratic society, where the interests of juveniles or the protection of the private life of the parties so require, or the extent strictly necessary in the opinion of the court in special circumstances where publicity would prejudice the interests of justice. 2.Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law.
    3.Everyone charged with a criminal offence has the following minimum rights:
    (a) to be informed promptly, in a language which he understands and in detail, of the nature and cause of the accusation against him; (b) to have adequate time and the facilities for the preparation of his defence; (c) to defend himself in person or through legal assistance of his own choosing or, if he has not sufficient means to pay for legal assistance, to be given it free when the interests of justice so require; (d) to examine or have examined witnesses against him and to obtain the attendance and examination of witnesses on his behalf under the same conditions as witnesses against him; (e) to have the free assistance of an interpreter if he cannot understand or speak the language used in court. ”


    The article 6 of the Human Rights Act specifically forbids to undertake these sort of actions which the home secretary is instigating the police force do.

    These shows how the new parliament is ridden with ministers who considers the Human Rights Act 1998 an irrelevancy. Some of them have gone as far as to say, this law should be scrapped.
    A television comentarist have said that at least have of parliament have no problems with ignoring this law. Never mind the judges who have made very clear that the Human Rights Act is considered a hindrance to the service of their peculiar brand of justice in this country.

    This country every year honours those who have died fighting a war against this very system of government. It is astonishing to see how this political philosophy is rising its ugly head from its grave.

    It is fitting of a Hitlerian authoritarian political movement!!

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

    Well, in an Orwellian world, you fight Nazis by being a Nazi.

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

    People have the right to remain silent,regardless what the police say,the trouble is,people do not,they cannot help themselves,helping the police hang them.

    "Don't Talk to the Police" by Professor James Duane

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

    WTFITS!?!?!?!

    You know this just might be the straw that broke the camal's back you know, if such a ruling get's pasted it would be the final nail in the british coffin as men will realize they have no choice but to fight in order to be free, note how nicely this goes hand in hand with the notion of closing down all women's prisons and converting them into more prisons of men.

    Dark days are a head for british men, this is getting way out of hand, you know once this happens all the other femanazi nations will jump on the bandwaggon
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

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    Well, in an Orwellian world, you fight Nazis by being a Nazi.
    This is exactly what Mussolini said to his general when he ordered him to erradicate the mafia from the island of Sicilia in Italy (defeat the mafia by behaving worse than them).

    However, the news this morning is that the new government wants a "reformed" Human Rights Act, and that means that it will be a law made "a la carte", picking the bits you like and refuse the rest.

    Of course, that is an impossible dream because the European Court of Human Rights have been making decisions based on Articles agreed by an international groups of jurists, and it is unlikely they will be moved by some poxy westminster minister of parliament.

    As Theresa May is concerned it seems to me she'll be replacing Horrid Harman in making stupid laws and allowing the police to become nastier.

    Men must beware of the rising monster of fascism.

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

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    This is exactly what Mussolini said to his general when he ordered him to erradicate the mafia from the island of Sicilia in Italy (defeat the mafia by behaving worse than them).

    However, the news this morning is that the new goverment wants a "reformed" Human Rights Act, and that means that it will be a law made "a la carte", picking the bits you like and refuse the rest.

    Of course, that is an impossible dream because the European Court of Human Rights have been making decisions based on Articles agreed by an international groups of jurists, and it is unlikely they will be moved by some poxy westminster minister of parliament.

    As Theresa May is concerned it seems to me she'll be replacing Horrid Harman in making stupid laws and allowing the police to become nastier.

    Men must beware of the rising monster of fascism.

    NEVO
    Man it sounds like things are really getting nasty over there, you know it will only be a matter of time before Britain becomes a completly femanazi police state and once that happens then the rest of the western nations are going to jump on the bandwaggon.

    Just a sign of the evil times ahead of us.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

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    Man it sounds like things are really getting nasty over there, you know it will only be a matter of time before Britain becomes a completly femanazi police state and once that happens then the rest of the western nations are going to jump on the bandwaggon.

    Just a sign of the evil times ahead of us.
    It will get worse!

    The nine billion pounds cuts in public expenditure is already begining to bite. The news has shown people protesting about loosing their facilities for lack of money.

    It will not be long before people begin to protest about having to support single teenage mothers through their taxes. Furthermore, they are on line for changes to their benefits. Whether those changes will deter more single mothers suckling the state's teat remains to be seen.

    More taxes are on the way is as certain as death.

    The impending oil crisis will make it even harder as products will be more expensive accross the board.

    Men will no longer set up families as it will become a prohibitive luxury. Considering the average wedding costs about 20.000 it will be a very large amount of money which is no longer circulating in the economy, taking away a large chunk of taxes off the government hands.

    I could go on, but it is very depresing. So I'll leave at that.

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    It will get worse!
    I have no doubts about that Bro

    The nine billion pounds cuts in public expenditure is already begining to bite. The news has shown people protesting about loosing their facilities for lack of money.
    Yea and the money is going into goverment coffers and Women's Programs at the expence of men and boys which will breed much anger that will biol over into open rebelion and rightly so.

    It will not be long before people begin to protest about having to support single teenage mothers through their taxes. Furthermore, they are on line for changes to their benefits. Whether those changes will deter more single mothers suckling the state's teat remains to be seen.
    Good point but some how I don't think it will deter teenage mothers in fact I think their will be an incress for teenage mothers so that the state will have a fresh crop of young minds to warp into slavery for the state

    More taxes are on the way is as certain as death.
    True enough and guess who has to shell out more for taxes, here's a hint it 'ant the ones with the three inch slit between their legs and the two bags of meat hanging off their chests

    The impending oil crisis will make it even harder as products will be more expensive accross the board.
    Agreed but it just won't be limited to britain and the UK, it's be tough all over the world which will lead to more poverty, anger at the goverments and the name blaming at home and between the nations of the world which will lead to more starvation in the poorer countries and more and more civil and global conflicts across the world as well as the eventual cloapse of goverments that will stray to stay in power by recending what personal freedoms the masses have left to them at this point in time, which will also contribute to more and more civil and global conflicts and starvation and what not.

    Basicly the world is fuck, so why drag things out, I say start The One Big One and be done withit all ready.

    Men will no longer set up families as it will become a prohibitive luxury. Considering the average wedding costs about 20.000 it will be a very large amount of money which is no longer circulating in the economy, taking away a large chunk of taxes off the government hands.
    Which will lead to more economic hardships, more women whining about men as they are gripped with baby rabies and more and more crack downs on personal freedoms as the shit heads in office try to keep their nations from colapsing completly which will in turn lead to the problems I have mentioned earlier also women as a whole will find that their party has come to an end since their is no longer any money to suport their fat asses which will lead to more female insanty which will lead to more and more men saying " FUCK YOU! " to the women and the goverment and so on.

    I could go on, but it is very depresing. So I'll leave at that.NEVO
    No need to go on it is clear to anyone with a brain in their heads where all of this is leading to, so the best advice I can give is stock up on as much non persihable food and as much guns and ammo as you can and get ready for one fucking wild ride.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

    Originally Posted by nevosopelo:
    I could go on, but it is very depresing. So I'll leave at that.


    I share your pessimism NEVO. Do you remember the fuel shortages not long ago, during the lorry drivers strike, how quickly the pumps ran dry and the supermarket shelf's became empty, it brought home to me how little it would take and how quickly the country could descend into chaos. A smart bloke should grow his own veg and keep some stores set aside for dark times. The biggest problem of course will be how to defend what you have.
    Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

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    I share your pessimism NEVO. Do you remember the fuel shortages not long ago, during the lorry drivers strike, how quickly the pumps ran dry and the supermarket shelf's became empty, it brought home to me how little it would take and how quickly the country could descend into chaos. A smart bloke should grow his own veg and keep some stores set aside for dark times. The biggest problem of course will be how to defend what you have.
    That's an easy question to answer.
    Through overwheliming fire power, the trick is getting the guns and ammo you would need to survive when the crash comes down the line, things are on such a knife's edge that when one nation goes under for the count it will chain react across the world.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

    I will not need too much firepower to bring down the rather chubby people who live in the house's that back on the canal i am on,a dried pizza piece on a long string and i can draw the down to the bank and drown them,i heard that fat people make good eating.

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    Tuesday, May 18, 2010

    The petty dictators of Britain

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    A blind man of 75 has just been fined by council wardens for failing to clean up his guide dog's mess. Albert McFall, from Renfrew, Scotland, was handed a 40 fixed-penalty notice, even though he had no idea his golden labrador, Copper, had just done his business on a piece of waste ground.

    How was he expected to know, let alone pick it up? He's blind, for heaven's sake.

    The guide dog should have been a clue. So should Albert's registered disabled armband and the dog's fluorescent harness.

    He couldn't even read the penalty notice given to him. Admittedly, dog mess is a nuisance, but this was on a large patch of waste ground, not on the pavement or in a children's playground. Albert said: 'I know rules are rules and I shouldn't be treated any differently to the next person, but this is totally unbelievable.' He said he would have accepted a warning, but the wardens were interested only in taking his name and issuing a fine.

    What kind of heartless moron refuses to make allowances for an elderly blind man, even if he has technically committed a minor offence?

    But 'rules is rules' is the bleat of the tinpot tyrant down the ages. Albert's experience is entirely consistent with the elf 'n'safety and proof-of-identity madness I get sent to me by readers every week.

    Alice O'Brien, from Bognor Regis, emails to say she had a jar of Marmite confiscated at Gatwick on her way to a holiday in Turkey - just another small example of the way in which anti-terror measures are used to persecute the law-abiding.

    In Havant, Hants, a teenager was prevented from buying a bicycle puncture repair kit on the grounds that he might be a glue-sniffer.

    Even though 17-year-old Daniel Cottrell was accompanied by his father, the assistant at the 99p shop still wouldn't sell him the kit. The owner of the store said he was acting on police advice.

    There is no application of intelligence, or common sense, in any of these cases.

    Doesn't it occur to the shopkeeper, or the idiot Plod who issued these 'guidelines', that if Daniel really was a glue-sniffer he'd buy a big tub of glue, not a puncture repair kit?

    I could fill the column with this kind of lunacy, week in, week out. We are inclined to laugh it off, when we should be burning down government buildings.

    Infuriating as it is, this petty-minded punishment culture also extends to more sinister assaults on civil liberties, from trial without juries, detention without trial, to DNA databanks and the establishment of a surveillance state more extensive even than Eastern Europe under the communists.

    Almost no area of our lives, no innocent everyday human activity, is immune from interference. We are the most spied upon, bullied nation in the so-called 'free' world.

    A vast standing army of officials has been recruited to enforce an exciting range of fines and sentences introduced for the thousands of new 'offences' created by Labour.

    Only yesterday we learned that people are being urged to snoop on their neighbours and report any ' environmental crimes' they observe.

    Hull City Council is asking householders to fill in 'diary sheets' recording the times and dates fellow residents put out their rubbish.

    This will mean that anyone caught putting their bin out before 7am and leaving it on the street after 7pm on the appointed day of collection could be fined a maximum 1,000.

    We've already had people getting criminal records for the heinous crime of leaving their dustbin lid open by a couple of inches, or putting the 'wrong' kind of rubbish in their recycling container.

    Elsewhere, anti-terrorist legislation has been used to trap parents suspected of manipulating school catchment areas to try to secure a decent education for their children.

    If you give anyone in authority any power whatsoever, especially if it comes with a uniform or a hi-viz jacket, they will always, always abuse it.

    So while the new Government gets to grips with tackling the economic wasteland inherited from Gordon Brown, there is another equally pressing task.

    Labour's police state, the entire apparatus of the punishment culture which has been imposed ruthlessly over the past 13 years, must be dismantled.

    The coalition is committed to scrapping Labour's ID cards scheme. But that is only a start. The new Government should go much, much further.

    David Davis, the former shadow Home secretary, resigned his seat in the last Parliament and forced a by election to protest against Labour's attempts to establish a totalitarian state.

    He has paid a great political price for his stand on principle. It soured his relationship with his party leader and cost him the Home Office, now occupied by Theresa May, the Conservative member for Russell & Bromley.

    But if Cameron can manage to form a coalition with the duplicitous Liberal Democrats, and bring political opponents such as Frank Field and Will Hutton on board, he can surely find it in his heart to bury the hatchet with Davis.

    Why not set up a grand committee under Davis charged with dismantling Labour's illiberal police state?

    I can't see Nick Clegg objecting to anything dedicated to restoring civil liberties.

    Picking apart Labour's punishment culture will be even more difficult than restoring an economy reduced to a toxic wasteland by Gordon Brown's deliberate, reckless profligacy.

    But no one wants to live in a country where neighbours are encouraged to spy on each other by the Town Hall stasi and a 75-year-old blind man is persecuted for failing to notice that his guide dog has done a whoopsie.

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    Re: As UK. fascism rolls on, the new home secretary concedes more power to the police

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    i heard that fat people make good eating.

    Yes the buttocks are the most succulent part ....... allegedly
    Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato

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    WHAT THE FUCK!

    Tell me you are joking Percy.
    A blind old man getting fined because his giude dog made a bit of a mess in a wateland area?!!!
    THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!
    If there was ever the need for a rebelion in britain it is this type of naziusqe shit that should trigger it.

    And to think I want to travel to Britan at one time.
    I say there will be a rebelion coming soon and when these nazi thungs are hung in the streets it will be a very good day for Britan as a whole.
    What the hell is the royal family doing about this shit?
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Yes the buttocks are the most succulent part ....... allegedly
    MMM Buttsteaks!
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.


 

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