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    Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

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    In a commentary piece in one of the country's weekly medical journals (see which one), doctors argue that parents of obese kids (find childhood obesity statistics) should lose custody (in which type of cases?). Doctors and medical ethicists say the intervention could be the difference between life and death for some kids. (An Illinois lawmaker wanted to impose a penalty on parents of obese children.)

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    Re: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

    No.

    'Custody' is a weasel-word. The parents are Responsible for everything about their children. 'Custody' is not a 'grant' or a 'privilege' given by the State, to be taken away at whim.

    NO-ONE should interfere with parents and their children unless some criminal act has occurred.

    Bloody busy-bodies !

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    First: it needs to be established that BOTH parents are Totally, Wholly, Individually, Jointly & Severally, Responsible and Accountable for the complete Financial, Mental, Emotional, Physical, Spiritual, Health, Education and Wellbeing of the children they produce together.

    This means that Each is wholly Responsible; niether can prevent the other from the necessary participation and obligation. The failure or impediment of one puts the onus on the other. Neither can 'withdraw' or force the other away from the child.

    It can be a matter of social 'organisation' or 'law', to determine the mechanisms of Accountability, but that accountability is to the Child, via a third-Party social instrumentality which is to 'aid' the child rather than dispossess the child of its own interests. In event of separation / divorce, BOTH parties MUST draw up a Plan to fulfill their obligations. Both must contribute, particulalry financially, which underpins most other provisions.

    Secondly: it needs to be established that
    Interference with the obligations and rights of either or both Parents in relation to the Child is to be punishable , by Law'. This includes interference by one parent in the rights and obligations of the other parent.

    Just what might constitute 'interference' might be determined in discussion but ought not encompass the normal day to day distinctive views of men and women, fathers and mothers in jointly deciding matters.

    It would encompass outside individuals or 'agencies' who are currently geared toward busy-body, judgemental and often arbitrary punitive actions. For example there was a case last year of a child taken from her parents because a police 'raid' initiated by some animal welfare' snoopers acting on a complaint against them having a commercial Kennel business, accidently let the dogs out and used that as an excuse for the child being in danger. Such arbitrary action should carry a criminal charge.

    Thirdly:
    Either or both of the parents may seek aid and assistance in fulfilling their obligations toward the child. This aid should have the agreement and approval of the other parent, where possible. Such 'aid' provided by State or non-State agencies must NOT subvert the rights and obligations of the parents. Such aid may be 'contingent' on specified factors and may carry contingencies in provision.

    It must be sought. A third party might suggest it. No one can impose it without say, a Court Order. Aid provision may be limited so as not to 'replace' the parental obligation. It may carry an obligation to 'repay' in part, in some way. It may be 'time' limited. It would NOT reduce the obligation on a capable parent.
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    Re: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

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    No.

    'Custody' is a weasel-word. The parents are Responsible for everything about their children. 'Custody' is not a 'grant' or a 'privilege' given by the State, to be taken away at whim.

    NO-ONE should interfere with parents and their children unless some criminal act has occurred.
    Spot - on !!!!
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    Re: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

    I have been saying for years that the next witch-hunt, after demonizing and taxing smokers to death would be fat people and indeed, here we are and it will get worse. We will see snack food and soft drinks taxes at a higher rate and public abuse of people who are fat, just like how smokers are treated.
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    Re: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

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    I have been saying for years that the next witch-hunt, after demonizing and taxing smokers to death would be fat people and indeed, here we are and it will get worse. We will see snack food and soft drinks taxes at a higher rate and public abuse of people who are fat, just like how smokers are treated.
    I hear what you are saying Bro and I know that if this gets passed as a law it will be used against fathers mostly like all the other child protection laws and what not.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Re: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

    Sir Percy's rules...well rule!
    So many may be scared to say: there is a direct correlation between the increase in female headed households with children (single mothers) and the rise in juvenille obesity.

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    Re: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

    The electronic baby sitter! Is it no wonder? My mom was great at saying 'oh sit down for awhile,first with television then with video games then with a computer. When I was allowed to see my Dad we played ball and did stuff outside.

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    Re: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

    Worse than single motherhood is giving the state so much power to seize the children.
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    Re: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

    not only no-but HELL NO!

    Your silence is important-Feminist's demand it.

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    Re: Should parents of obese kids lose custody?

    Quote Quote from Percy View Post
    'Custody' is a weasel-word. The parents are Responsible for everything about their children. 'Custody' is not a 'grant' or a 'privilege' given by the State, to be taken away at whim.

    NO-ONE should interfere with parents and their children unless some criminal act has occurred.
    That's a weasel phrase . This is a discussion of "should" which is to say it is a discussion of what ought to be a criminal act. If a law says you must not feed your child on Sunday, they to do so would be a criminal act but that doesn't make it any more nor less a correct thing to do. If a law says that allowing children to be obese is a criminal act, then suddenly you would be happy with it? I suspect not, so you need to have a more sound social position than just what contemporary law permits.
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