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    The Ruination of a Civilisation

    As a New Dark Age Descends Upon the West


    http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2011/07/01/as-a-new-dark-age-descends-upon-the-west/


    The Judeo-Christian worldview was perhaps the most important element in the rise of Western civilisation. Other factors can be mentioned, but without the biblical worldview and its impact, the West as we know it would never have arisen. Many scholars and experts have spoken to this.


    As just one example, American sociologist Rodney Stark has written a number of important volumes on these themes. Consider his seminal 2005 volume, The Victory of Reason. In it he says, “The success of the West, including the rise of science, rested entirely on religious foundations, and the people who brought it about were devout Christians.” He continues:


    “To sum up: the rise of the West was based on four primary victories of reason. The first was the development of faith in progress within Christian theology. The second victory was the way that faith in progress translated into technical and organizational innovations, many of them fostered by monastic estates. The third was that, thanks to Christian theology, reason informed both political philosophy and practice to the extent that responsive states, sustaining a substantial degree of personal freedom, appeared in medieval Europe. The final victory involved the application of reason to commerce, resulting in the development of capitalism within the safe havens provided by responsive states. These were the victories by which the West was won.”


    But the obverse of all this is also true. As Christianity goes, so too does Western culture. As we declare war on the very foundations of the West, we should not be surprised to see the West teetering on the brink. We have renounced our Christian heritage and are now surprised to see the whole thing falling to bits.


    It is as C.S. Lewis once remarked, “We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.” We cannot expect the West to prosper and succeed when we are so busy kicking out from underneath it its very support system.


    But the reversal of this whole process does differ in one fundamental respect. While it takes centuries, if not millennia, to develop a great civilisation, it takes but a moment to destroy it. As Sir Winston Churchill put it, “To build may have to be the slow and laborious task of years. To destroy can be the thoughtless act of a single day.”


    Historians such as Will Durant could state this truth in this way: “From barbarism to civilization requires a century; from civilization to barbarism needs but ad ay.” And great literary figures could also bemoan this decline. As T. S. Eliot so powerfully warned back in 1948:


    “If Christianity goes, the whole of our culture goes. Then you must start painfully again, and you cannot put on a new culture ready made. You must wait for the grass to grow to feed the sheep to give the wool out of which your new coat will be made. You must pass through many centuries of barbarism. We should not live to see the new culture, nor would our great-great-great-grandchildren: and if we did, not one of us would be happy in it.”


    I mention all this because – if nothing else – my website is one long chronicle of the West’s slow but certain decline. Hundreds of articles here document this fundamental truth: when you attack Christianity, you attack the West which developed from it.


    While most Western countries have been involved in this cultural suicide, one certainly has been leading the way. I refer to Britain, once known as Great Britain. Dozens of articles on this site have documented the war against faith there, and the slow slide into oblivion of the once great nation.


    I am not alone of course in bewailing this major collapse of a nation. Just in today’s English press appeared an article which is well worth taking note of. The nation’s Chief Rabbi, Lord Sacks, has warned about this very matter. The title to the article runs as follows: “Chief Rabbi: Equality laws leading to new Mayflower exodus”.


    The article begins this way: “New equality laws are forcing religious people to flee the country because they are being denied the freedom to live in accordance with their beliefs, the Chief Rabbi, Lord Sacks, has warned. The Orthodox Jewish leader claimed that anti-discrimination policies had fuelled an ‘erosion of religious liberty’ in Britain that was leading to a new ‘Mayflower’, a reference to the flight of the persecuted Pilgrim Fathers to America in the 17th century.


    “His comments follow growing alarm from leading religious figures over the increasing influence of equality laws. The former Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Carey, has called on the Prime Minister to review equality legislation amid concerns that religious freedoms and Britain’s Christian heritage are under threat.


    “Speaking to the House of Commons public administration select committee, Lord Sacks said there was ‘no doubt’ numbers of religious believers in Britain were‘ extraordinarily’ low. He continued: ‘I share a real concern that the attempt to impose the current prevailing template of equality and discrimination on religious organisations is an erosion of religious liberty. We are beginning to move back to where we came in in the 17th century – a whole lot of people on the Mayflower leaving to find religious freedom elsewhere’.”


    Much of this war against faith has come from quite small but quite vocal and active minority lobby groups, such as the radical feminists and homosexuals. The article continues, “Recent months have seen a series of clashes of rights reach the courts as a result of equality legislation which was introduced under Labour and designed to prevent discrimination on the grounds of religion or sexuality. Roman Catholic adoption agencies have closed because they cannot reconcile the requirements under the new laws with their belief that children should not be placed with gay couples.”


    How ironic that a few short centuries ago Englishmen had been forced to flee their own nation to escape persecution and find some religious freedom. Now it seems it is happening all over again. The secular left jihad against faith and family values has been extremely powerful and quite successful.


    Just now here in Australia an Englishman is finding himself being banned from oneplace after another, simply because he does not hold to the common wisdom on climate change. I have documented Lord Monckton’s woes elsewhere: http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2011/06/30/academics-declare-war-on-free-speech/#comments


    All over the Western world basic freedoms such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of conscience are being undermined, eroded, and trampled underfoot. With most of the West engaged in this war against faith, family and life, our only choice – if we must flee – is to go to the developing world where it may be much easier to live with Christian values and convictions.


    The West, it seems, is descending into a new dark ages. May God have mercy on it – and on us.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8609531/Chief-Rabbi-Equality-laws-leading-to-new-Mayflower-exodus.html
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    Re: The Ruination of a Civilisation

    Very interesting read. A bit outfield for my taste, but I can wrap my head around the grand scheme of what the article is saying.

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    Re: The Ruination of a Civilisation

    I think we both know that this has been coming for years, Percy.....you longer me I am sure.

    I would suggest that an investiture of basic supplies is always in order, and general knowledge of the natural world is a must.
    I would also suggest a very basic resource that I read time and time again during my military service. If those of you in other countries have something similar then feel free to post it here. I would value that information greatly, and would consider it a personal favor.
    Download the following and print it out. Place it inside a large plastic oven bag, and seal it. Print out a second copy, and read it.

    This is the resource that comes in very handy
    U.S. Army Survival Manual 3-05.70.

    The Four Standards of Excellence are here:
    The Steps to War Part III


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    Re: The Ruination of a Civilisation

    I have to admit, James, that I have become too old and knackered to be thinking of survival. I don't think a collapse is on the cards in the years I have left unless it is a collapse of my legs!

    But I grieve for the generations younger than I am. They are going to have it as tough and nasty as that experienced by my parents and your grandparents.
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    Love the Sinner but not the Sin.
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    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against Principalities, against Powers,
    against the Rulers of the Darkness of this world, against Spiritual Wickedness in high places. “
    (and within ourselves)


    A Feminist is a human being who has lost her way and turned vicious. If you meet one on the road as you
    Go your Own Way, offer kindness but keep your sword drawn.





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    Judeo-Christian concerns aside, I am one who believes in survival. What was common sense 60 years ago: have enough dry goods stocked with adequate preserved foodstuffs, a means to defend yourself and family, and enough tools to go alone, or in small groups has all but vanished from traditional views. People who are prepared for the worst are labeled "Survivalists", but with a negative connotation of yahoos running around in the woods with weapons, living off of MRE's and waiting for the end.

    My grandfather came to the USA when he was 19, started up a farm and got hit by the great depression 16 years later. His practical nature got him , his wife and 5 kids through the bad times. As a farmer, what he could not sell or use immediately was preserved. He believed in having a stock of supplies for a couple years to simply survive on if the bad times hit, which they did.

    As the west careens toward removing all religion from government and society as a whole, the foundation is then laid for tyranny. George Orwell was right. 1984 is coming, a few years late.

    If people want to believe in God, so be it. If they don't, so be it. Personal beliefs are core to every man and woman, criminalizing viewpoints and the belief in religion is what make communism so attractive to the so called "progressives" of our society. Using anti-discrimination laws to dilute and erode public support of religion and it's viewpoints is in full swing. When gay, lesbian, and transgendered folks get to have school supported programs and clubs, but religious groups cannot, then there is a problem. No one is forcing anyone to believe in any one religion. The school systems, however are forcing and indoctrinating our young into the viewpoints and premises for the LGBT community. If you protest this indoctrination, you are labeled a homophobe.

    Quite frankly, I could care less about what consenting adults do with their willies and coochies. I really object to the constant misinformation and having a view forced on me at the point of a gun (or law).

    So is the west in decline? Yes it is.

    Houston, we have a problem.

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    I think we both know that this has been coming for years, Percy.....you longer me I am sure.

    I would suggest that an investiture of basic supplies is always in order, and general knowledge of the natural world is a must.
    I would also suggest a very basic resource that I read time and time again during my military service. If those of you in other countries have something similar then feel free to post it here. I would value that information greatly, and would consider it a personal favor.
    Download the following and print it out. Place it inside a large plastic oven bag, and seal it. Print out a second copy, and read it.

    This is the resource that comes in very handy
    U.S. Army Survival Manual 3-05.70.

    I've got a few other texts on survival. The most useful I have found it "Surviving Doomsday" along with "The unabridged survival manual for the common man"
    Last edited by The Possible Human; 6th-July-2011 at 12:15 AM. Reason: content auto merged

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    a great nation that once was the home of Davy Crockett now technically insolvent and spending other folks money has the time to treat its yeomanry to the feminit domestic violence bullstwang and ever ready to gaol men on any rape lie aka Hofstra and duke Lacrosse or to impoverish and trash sincere family men in the feminit star chamber they deign to call the Family Court

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    Empires crumble. That's just the way it is. What happens when a global police state crumbles? Everyone will either be dead or in prison. This is what the banking gangsters and progressives(regressives) children wanted. HAPPY LANDING!!
    Greed is for amateurs.
    Knowledge without wisdom is a load of books on the back of an ass.
    Scorn and mockery towards men in need is one of the reasons feminism is dying as we speak!.

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    Great thread Percy! We confuse freedom of religion with freedom itself. Equal rights is the precise same as equal freedom. Misandry has confounded freedom with entitlement (sometimes referred to on this site as "the pussy pass"). The idea that a man is more than a sperm donor is treated with utter contempt by many.

    I have given a lot of thought to the charge of "assault." In many cases this has been expanded to include how a man reacts, as a man, to an affront to his honor. Our feminized society criminalizes traditional male behavior and acts to adjudicate it - from a feminized perspective. How ironic it is that "violence is never justified" is spewed by government agents who use violence as a matter of course; government agents who represent us, meaning who represent men. The double standards are obvious for all to see.

    Regarding Christianity, the point is well taken.
    4th Amendment = No depriving physical custody of children without due process (divorce is not a crime).
    13th Amendment = No forcing into contract, includes child support (pay directly for kids actual expense).

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    Crewd language from me that pretty much states what I feel sometimes about all this. Fucked if you do, fucked if you don't!!! Which is better? Going down doing, or going down with your head up your ass??

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    Crewd language from me that pretty much states what I feel sometimes about all this. Fucked if you do, fucked if you don't!!! Which is better? Going down doing, or going down with your head up your ass??
    It's not just America, the whole world is fucked. The increase of natural disasters in the past ten years was more than enough proof that this world is dying. There is no other option, everyone will die feminists, manginas, Jewish bankers and state mafias included.
    Greed is for amateurs.
    Knowledge without wisdom is a load of books on the back of an ass.
    Scorn and mockery towards men in need is one of the reasons feminism is dying as we speak!.

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    it is also important to keep several ballistics charts, powder charge scales for atleast all the major calibers for your
    reloading purposes , because in the time of need there will be no googling of information.
    you can easily end up with hot volatile rounds and blow your gun up (with your hand attached to it)
    Actually one of the more intelligent ideas I have heard today!! No use hunting with a gun if you can't eat your meat cuz you blew your hands off shooting moot hardware!! Gunpowder and a french cook's interest to experiment with spices don't match. Not the same explosion of flavors may I say!!

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    Quote Quote from Zuberi View Post
    It's not just America, the whole world is fucked. The increase of natural disasters in the past ten years was more than enough proof that this world is dying. There is no other option, everyone will die feminists, manginas, Jewish bankers and state mafias included.
    Such is the way of God if you happen to be a praying man and if not then it is the way of the world, great empires have risen and fallen over to crouse of time, the only diffreances is that with the technologay in the areas of warfare when one great modren day empire falls it tends to die a very violent death that was forever change the world through the use of nuclear, bioloigcal and chemical warfare.

    All in all I no longer give a rat's ass in a blender, I know that when my time comes the Good Lord will bring me home and give rest from my suffering is this dying world.

    Hell when it all comes crashing down I'm going to greet the end of the world with a smile, a fatty in one hand and a big mug of hot coffee and laugh the laugh of the damned.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Kargan, it would be a very strange God that would put in all this evolutionary work just to have humanity come crashing down.

    Civilisations have a 'life' but Humanity continues.
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    Oh, the Humanity!! Herbert Morrison

    edit, for those who fail to see the irony. I am agreeing with Percy. That blimp went down, many died, the war still raged. We are still here discussing the ruination.

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    but Humanity continues.
    No, it will not. This is it!
    Greed is for amateurs.
    Knowledge without wisdom is a load of books on the back of an ass.
    Scorn and mockery towards men in need is one of the reasons feminism is dying as we speak!.


 

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