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Police And Courts Regularly Abusing Wiretapping Laws

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    Police And Courts Regularly Abusing Wiretapping Laws To Arrest People For Filming Cops Misbehaving In Public Places


    Back in April, we wrote about the case of a motorcyclist in Maryland who was wearing a helmet-mounted camera while riding his motorcycle (admittedly, above the speed limit). As he stopped at a traffic light, an off-duty police-officer in plain clothes and an unmarked car jumped out of his car with his gun drawn. All of this was caught on video. No matter what you think of the cop's reaction, what happened later is ridiculous: after the biker, Anthony John Graber III, posted the video from his helmet cam to YouTube, he was arrested for illegal wiretapping, based on Maryland's two-party consent rule for recording. As we explained at the time, wiretapping laws that require all parties to consent were not, at all, designed for this type of situation.

    However, apparently this sort of thing is becoming all too common -- and stunningly, many courts are siding with the cops. Gizmodo recently had a good article highlighting how police in states that require all parties to consent to recordings have been using this law against being videotaped in public, and the courts are siding with them. What's really scary is that most of those laws even have clearly written exceptions for recording in public places "where no expectation of privacy" exists.

    Yet, the police and the courts both seem to ignore that part of those laws:
    The courts, however, disagree. A few weeks ago, an Illinois judge rejected a motion to dismiss an eavesdropping charge against Christopher Drew, who recorded his own arrest for selling one-dollar artwork on the streets of Chicago. Although the misdemeanor charges of not having a peddler's license and peddling in a prohibited area were dropped, Drew is being prosecuted for illegal recording, a Class I felony punishable by 4 to 15 years in prison.

    In 2001, when Michael Hyde was arrested for criminally violating the state's electronic surveillance law -- aka recording a police encounter -- the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court upheld his conviction 4-2. In dissent, Chief Justice Margaret Marshall stated, "Citizens have a particularly important role to play when the official conduct at issue is that of the police. Their role cannot be performed if citizens must fear criminal reprisals...." (Note: In some states it is the audio alone that makes the recording illegal.)

    The selection of "shooters" targeted for prosecution do, indeed, suggest a pattern of either reprisal or an attempt to intimidate.
    That last sentence is the real problem here. Two-party consent laws were clearly designed to be used in situations where someone was being recorded privately -- such as over a phone call, or in a private conversation. When police are doing things (especially questionable activities) out in public, we should be encouraging the public to record those incidents and report them. The laws are being abused to try to stop people from whistleblowing on bad behavior by police. That has nothing to do with the purpose of two-party consent laws. It's really scary that the courts didn't immediately throw out these cases.

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    Re: Police And Courts Regularly Abusing Wiretapping Laws

    So does this mean that surveillance cameras - 4 million of which decorate Britain - and cameras in shops and banks, and traffic intersections (red-light cameras) and speed cameras, cannot be used for evidence because the operators have not got the permission of members of the public? How about the cameras in cop cars that are later used to make TV programmes of car chases? Will members of the public in the background get Equity 'Extras' pay?

    Silly questions, I guess.

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    Re: Police And Courts Regularly Abusing Wiretapping Laws

    Quote Quote from Percy View Post
    Silly questions, I guess.
    I will take the 5th on that,but i agree with your point's.

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    Amnesty Blogs: It's now illegal to photograph/film a police officer : Police state?
    Further should law's like this, and on the original, be adopted by the rest of Western Europe as they are starting too,this man would most likely be in jail for rape.

    Man cleared of rape after court shown phone footage of woman 'actively' taking part in sex | Mail Online

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    Re: Police And Courts Regularly Abusing Wiretapping Laws

    Luckily, I live in a state that has a one party law. I, of course, am the consenting party and do not need anyone else's permission to record my immediate area. I regularly carry a micro-cassette recorder with me to school should the need for a conversation to be recorded come up. You are correct that these laws were intended for private communications, like phone calls.

    I too would like to see the law which gives police the exception and allows them to use their dash cam. I actually am glad that dash cams exist for the simple reason that I'd rather there be a record of the event, though the recordings have a habit of disappearing when it is in the citizens favor.

    There is no expectation to privacy in the public arena. That would mean a news crew filming anything on public property, where most of their stories take place, would require written permission from every single person that can be seen in the background of the footage. I would like to see a news station covering a protest or parade get permission from the, sometimes, thousands of people present. Why have no cameramen been charged under these laws?

    Similarly, wouldn't any video evidence of someone committing a crime be inadmissible? Evidence obtained illegally, without the person committing the crime's permission, is not admissible in court. It is 'fruit of the poisonous tree'.


 

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