Re: Gender politics - equality or tolerance?
Lady C: "No, this is not what psychologists say. Psychologists(especially family psychologists) say that the family unit is the most effective way to raise a child... [/QUOTE]
Well, I wont debate ad infinitum with you. You have made your position very clear. I do not agree with and I am sure most people do not support it - indeed if you do not fear your views, perhaps we could hold a vote on this forum "Should gays be allowed to adopt while normal hetrosexual couples are denied this right and fathers are denied to see their kids"?
I will make just 3 main points:
1/You say there is no evidence that same-sex families are detrimental to kids. Is there evidence that they are good for kids? No, just someone one day decided to allow gays to have kids "and lets see what happens" - sounds like a social experiment to me.
2/Read about the history of Freud and psychology in the USA and tell me that psychology in the USA is not about social control and social engineering - but dont take my word for it - the BBC have a major award winning documentary on it, a summary of which I will write up for this group when I can. (those who want it, PM me and I will give you info)
3/I quote you above, if psycholgists REALLY believe that the family is the core unit, then why are fathers denied the right to see their children after/during divorce? How many psycholgists stand up in court and say what the courts are doing is wrong, or denounce the mothers? Is it upon the opinion of psychologists that court base (or hide behind) when they make judgements.
You claim to be a psychologist (you are not a member of any professional association, so you are as much a self-styled psychologist as I am, and by the looks of the amount of time you spend here, have few clients) but lets see you put your mouth where the money is. Lets see you name names of psychologists who support the status quo, lets see you stnad up for mens/fathers rights in a real way.
You do a lot of talking here, but saying little of value, as a psychologist. Your posts have failed to meet general expecations that one wold have of a "doctor". (I also have a phd, etc, but I don't boast about it here, I want people to listen to my arguements, not be impressed by the 25 or so letters I have after my name)
Most people would agree that on this forum you have "refugee" status and you shout non stop about minority rights - well here's the REAL ISSUE, us men are the MAJORITY and we are looking for BASIC rights to be fathers and men, not worry about minority rights. I find your posts colourful and entertaining rather than informative - for an informative post I look at Percy's posts. At least he scans the worlds press for interesting stories and does not write about himself non stop.
Last edited by Richard; 12th-May-2011 at 06:20 PM.
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