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If u cross the north Korean border illegally u get 12 years hard labor...if u cross Iranian border illegally u get detained indefinitely. Cross the Afghan border u get shot. Cross the Saudi border u will be jailed. Cross the Chinese border u will never be heard from again. Cross the Venezuelan border u will b branded a spy and your fate sealed. Cross the Cuban border u will b thrown n prison to rot. However, cross the U.S. border illegally, u get a job, a drivers license, a social security card, welfare benefits, food stamps, credit cards, subsidized rent or a loan to buy a new house, free education, free health care, the right to vote, and all without speaking a word of english. This should piss Americans off. If you agree, forward to everyone you know!!
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True, true, true. However, if you complain about something such as that you get labeled a (fill in PC silver-bullet word)!! Yet, if illegals celebrate their heritage and celebrate the prediction that they will be the dominate race in the USofA by 2050, it's called empowerment! Now, where have I heard that word used before? Hmmm...? It sounds so familiar. A certain group claiming to be the victim of discrimination while practicing discrimination against its so-called oppressors and calling it empowerment? There seems to be a lot of that type of thinking going around.

The first empowerment group is even allowed to have a group called "The Race", unopposed by the gubment and MSM, which has the motto "For the Race everything, for those outside the Race nothing." Nice!!! How effen harmonious!!! It gives me warm taco fuzzies!!!!

If u cross the north Korean border illegally u get 12 years hard labor...if u cross Iranian border illegally u get detained indefinitely. Cross the Afghan border u get shot. Cross the Saudi border u will be jailed. Cross the Chinese border u will never be heard from again. Cross the Venezuelan border u will b branded a spy and your fate sealed. Cross the Cuban border u will b thrown n prison to rot. However, cross the U.S. border illegally, u get a job, a drivers license, a social security card, welfare benefits, food stamps, credit cards, subsidized rent or a loan to buy a new house, free education, free health care, the right to vote, and all without speaking a word of english. This should piss Americans off. If you agree, forward to everyone you know!!
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Aye sir, and is same here in England. This country is full of Scots, Welsh and Irish... and they are... ahem... inter-breeding! :P

Seriously though. Border control is one thing, but on principle, I disagree... on principle of free trade/market at least. I am a libertarian at heart, and freedom of movement is a part of that. The fact that outsiders can come to your country and take tax-payers money in welfare/health benefits... the outrage here is more a matter of the fact you pay taxes for them, than that they can move to your free country. (Free, in the sense that you are free to be yourself)

If I had it my way, I'd deport anyone in USA that wasn't Native American.

If I had it my way, I'd deport anyone in USA that wasn't Native American.

Native American ... define please

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Aye sir, and is same here in England. This country is full of Scots, Welsh and Irish... and they are... ahem... inter-breeding! :P

Seriously though. Border control is one thing, but on principle, I disagree... on principle of free trade/market at least. I am a libertarian at heart, and freedom of movement is a part of that. The fact that outsiders can come to your country and take tax-payers money in welfare/health benefits... the outrage here is more a matter of the fact you pay taxes for them, than that they can move to your free country. (Free, in the sense that you are free to be yourself)

I can see that point, but I feel as though we're over crowded and are the proud owners of a shit job-market as it is. On top of that it drives wages for the few jobs that are still out there down.


Are you 100% Native American Haute?

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Native American ... define please

Native American as in American Indian.

If you think America is horrible now, read on how they treated them.

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Native American as in American Indian.

If you think America is horrible now, read on how they treated them.

That is a dark spot on American history for sure.

Quit bringin up old shit!

(I'm just kidding, don't yell at me)

I can see that point, but I feel as though we're over crowded and are the proud owners of a shit job-market as it is. On top of that it drives wages for the few jobs that are still out there down.

You guys aint over-crowded lol... yet

98% of Americans are (or were descended from) immigrants. England has a long history of immigration, but I don't buy into the new leftist ideas that immigration is good for the economy, etc, blah blah blah.

I just don't like governmental control.. because if history teaches us one thing: governments fuck it up every time

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I can see that point, but I feel as though we're over crowded and are the proud owners of a shit job-market as it is. On top of that it drives wages for the few jobs that are still out there down.


Are you 100% Native American Haute?

I'm 1/4 Native American, my Mom is half and my grandfather is whole. My grand mother was 1/4, so it's on both sides.

Native American as in American Indian.

If you think America is horrible now, read on how they treated them.

BS, apologies.. but... BS!

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You guys aint over-crowded lol... yet

98% of Americans are (or were descended from) immigrants. England has a long history of immigration, but I don't buy into the new leftist ideas that immigration is good for the economy, etc, blah blah blah.

I just don't like governmental control.. because if history teaches us one thing: governments fuck it up every time

Wurd!

I'm 1/4 Native American, my Mom is half and my grandfather is whole. My grand mother was 1/4, so it's on both sides.

Are you saying that anyone who doesn't have at least a little bit of Native American blood in them should be deported?

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That is a dark spot on American history for sure.

Quit bringin up old shit!

(I'm just kidding, don't yell at me)

I know.

I think we all need to remember that every country has had bad history. If we don't learn from the past, we will continue to make the same mistakes.

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Wurd!



Are you saying that anyone who doesn't have at least a little bit of Native American blood in them should be deported?

The ones that complain about illegal immigrants, yes. Most people are here from their relatives coming here illegally. If people want to get rid of illegal immigrants, get rid of anyone that did. America wanted the hungry, tired and poor. If we are giving that up, yes.

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BS, apologies.. but... BS!

What do you mean?

As in America never treated Native Americans bad?

History is just that. History. Good or bad becomes a subjective position.

Native Indians in America suffered at the hands of the white man? Myth or truth?? There were many tribes who worked with the early colonisers. This happened throughout the "New World". It also happened when the Romans came to Britain. The tribes that signed up with them did well, those that didn't... well....

This is simple Marxist black and white mentality. Us, Them. Men, Women. There is always an oppressor. It's an over-simplified way of looking at the way a complicated thing like a human society can actually operate.

We are people, ultimately individuals. The societies we are bound up in well make us, but if you cannot adapt to new ideas and ways, then the only future for you is in a museum.

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History is just that. History. Good or bad becomes a subjective position.

Native Indians in America suffered at the hands of the white man? Myth or truth?? There were many tribes who worked with the early colonisers. This happened throughout the "New World". It also happened when the Romans came to Britain. The tribes that signed up with them did well, those that didn't... well....

This is simple Marxist black and white mentality. Us, Them. Men, Women. There is always an oppressor. It's an over-simplified way of looking at the way a complicated thing like a human society can actually operate.

We are people, ultimately individuals. The societies we are bound up in well make us, but if you cannot adapt to new ideas and ways, then the only future for you is in a museum.

I'll just politely disagree here.

While we are individuals, we also have cultures that should be respected. Oppression is always wrong, no matter who does it.

That's all I will say on this.