I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
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I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
'Major hurdle' to controversial mosque near Ground Zero crossed after commission refuses to give site landmark status | Mail Online
A city commission has paved the way for an Islamic community centre and mosque to be built on the site of the former World Trade Center in New York.
The Landmarks Preservation Commission voted unanimously not to give a building at the site of the September 11 terrorist attacks landmark status, arguing that 152-year-old building blocks were not special or distinctive enough.
They also said that other buildings from the era were better examples of the building's style.
National and New York politicians, as well as the Anti-Defamation League, have come out in recent weeks against plans for the mosque, saying it disrespects the memory of those killed in the 2001 attacks.
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who also chairs the foundation building the Sept. 11 memorial, has defended plans for the mosque.
Protesters applauded and shouted 'shame' as commission chairman Robert B. Tierney called for the vote.
Others held up signs, including one which read: 'Don't glorify murders of 3,000. No 9/11 victory mosque.'
People hoping to give the building landmark status had argued that it warranted the mark because it was struck by debris from the aircraft during the attacks.
Opponents to the mosque have argued allowing it near the September 11 terror attacks site is disrespectful to the people killed
But commissioner Christopher Moore said that the debris hit a number of buildings.
He said: 'One cannot designate hundreds of buildings on that criteria alone. We do not landmark the sky.'
The mosque would be part of an Islamic community centre to be operated by a group called the Cordoba Initiative, which says it will be a space for moderate Muslim voices.
Oz Sultan, the program coordinator for the proposed centre, said last week that the building has been changed too much over the years to qualify as a landmark.
'I think a lot of the negativity we're getting is coming from people who are politically grandstanding,' Mr Sultan said. 'We're completely open and transparent.'
The Reverend Robert Chase, founding director of an interfaith group called Intersections, supported the project and called it 'a really positive example of how we can move forward from 9/11'.
Daisy Khan, executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, told The Wall Street Journal that the centre's board will include members of other religions and explore including an interfaith chapel.
'We want to repair the breach and be at the front and center to start the healing,' said Mrs Khan, a partner in the building and the wife of the cleric leading the effort.
But the Anti-Defamation League's national director, Abraham Foxman, said her proposals failed to address the crux of opponents' criticism that erecting the mosque near Ground Zero is insensitive to 9/11 victims' families.
The Jewish organisation came out against the mosque last week, saying 'some legitimate questions have been raised' about the Cordoba Initiative's funding and possible ties with 'groups whose ideologies stand in contradiction to our shared values'.
The project also has drawn opposition from former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, among others.
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Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
Like spitting in the faces of all Americans.. especially the ones that gave their lives - willingly or not....
fucking liberal pukes...
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- 4th-August-2010 #3
Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
I am American, and I think this is a new low.
Is this how you want to go down?
Right before my eyes you are the saddest sight I know
You're quiet, you never make a sound
But here inside my mind, you are the loudest one I know
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Turn and tremble, be judgemental
Ignorant to all the symbols
Blind the face with beauty paste
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I never knew I was able to ever feel this strong
Take me off your worry list, it'll be better that way
I'm really fine and there's nothing we haven't talked about
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- 28th-August-2010 #4
Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
I was stationed in Texas at the time of the 9/11 attack. I went to full mobilization and deployed out almost immediately. I spent the next 3 years of my life in several middle eastern countries doing what was needed. These Muslim fucks don't deserve a say, a building, or a life in my country as far as I'm concerned. If they're going to get all butt-hurt about being stereotyped or racially discriminated against then maybe they should go pray to the east back east.
I am NOT sorry if I offended anyone. This is war and I was there.
- 28th-August-2010 #5
Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
God kept His word and sent His Prophet in this day.
Judgement is coming, time is fast running out !!!
Do you know where you stand with God ?
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Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
And people wonder why America is going to hell in a basket.
A mosque shouldn't be built near a site that was caused by Saudis, Afghans and Pakistanis. These people were intent on slamming into the building and killing people. They didn't care that there were fathers, mothers, daughters and sons there. People that are at their first job or someone just about to retire. All they cared about was killing people.
You wouldn't fly a Japanese Pagoda near Pearl Harbor, would you?
- 29th-August-2010 #7
Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
Is this how you want to go down?
Right before my eyes you are the saddest sight I know
You're quiet, you never make a sound
But here inside my mind, you are the loudest one I know
-Quote, by Evans Blue
Turn and tremble, be judgemental
Ignorant to all the symbols
Blind the face with beauty paste
Eventually you'll one day know
-Wasteland, by 10 Years
I never knew I was able to ever feel this strong
Take me off your worry list, it'll be better that way
I'm really fine and there's nothing we haven't talked about
-The Worry List, by Blue October
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Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
And YOU do know that they already have seven mosques within a thirty block radius of the proposed location, right?
And that there was a proposed (by others to them) site a little less sensative at a significantly less amount of money that they (muslims) refused to entertain, right?
And that it is typical of muslims to plant a mosque on (or close) the site of their "victories", right?
And that we have no idea where the 100 Million dollars is coming from to build said mosque, right?
And that the muslim that is supposedly in charge of this project has been proven to have ties to radicals, including the taliban, right?
No. You are. Not in a nice way either.
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- 29th-August-2010 #10
Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
Is this how you want to go down?
Right before my eyes you are the saddest sight I know
You're quiet, you never make a sound
But here inside my mind, you are the loudest one I know
-Quote, by Evans Blue
Turn and tremble, be judgemental
Ignorant to all the symbols
Blind the face with beauty paste
Eventually you'll one day know
-Wasteland, by 10 Years
I never knew I was able to ever feel this strong
Take me off your worry list, it'll be better that way
I'm really fine and there's nothing we haven't talked about
-The Worry List, by Blue October
- 29th-August-2010 #11
- 29th-August-2010 #12
Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
Do you seriously believe that 18 terrorists armed only with a Stanley Knife each, brought off 9-11 ?
Just watch the footage of the twin towers collapsing and you can see for yourself the squibs, (Explosive charges) going off as the buildings collapsed.
Numerous eye witnesses stated that they heard the bombs going off as the buildings came down.
The twin towers were designed to withstand numerous hits from large aircraft.....
Frank A. Demartini.
Manager: WTC. Construction and project management.
The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it that was the largest plane at the time.
I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts
of jet liners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door this intense grid and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting it really does nothing to the screen netting.
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Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9-11, telling Italy's most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.
Cossiga was elected President of Italian Senate in July 1983 before being winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985.
Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed, “An honest politician” and led the country for seven years until April 1992.
Cossiga's revelations contributed to an Italian parliamentary investigation of Gladio in 2000, during which evidence was unearthed that the attacks were being overseen by the U.S. intelligence apparatus .
In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."
Cossiga's new revelations appeared last week in Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation.
"[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe ... now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part ... in Iraq [and] Afghanistan."
Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9-11 in 2001, and is quoted in Webster Tarpley's book as stating that "The mastermind of the attack must have been a sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel.
I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel.
Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga's assertion that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies is highly unlikely to be mentioned by any establishment media outlets, because like the hundreds of other sober ex-government, military, air force professionals, allied to hundreds more professors and intellectuals - he can't be sidelined as a crackpot conspiracy theorist.Last edited by RobYork; 29th-August-2010 at 07:16 PM.
God kept His word and sent His Prophet in this day.
Judgement is coming, time is fast running out !!!
Do you know where you stand with God ?
- 29th-August-2010 #13
Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
To bring down a building such as the WTC tower, there was more required than simply the efforts or the arabs. There are documents - reports actually - that confirm the usage of thermite there.
Anyway, it was THE perfect excuse to invade Iraq. Warfare means profit and coincidentially theres an oil factor as well. A terrorist attack also inspired enough fear on American citizens so they could be controlled even easier. The state obtained more power over their citizens through the Patriot Act which was also a result of 9-11.
If one considers the story the Bush Administration has told the world, you'll quickly see there are various things that just don't make sense. Off course, many people won't see that, because are too bussy believing we are waging war on the evil terrorists (of which many have been created thanks the US government's habbit of trying to police the world).
- 29th-August-2010 #14
Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
The evidence is there and I appreciate you supporting your statement. You'd be surprised how many people watch a film filled with government bashing propaganda and become part of the "movement" to place blame. It seems odd to me that if the evidence is that excruciating then why isn't anyone doing anything about it? Is the evidence valid, or is it all circumstantial and opinionated?
But I suppose the government isn't going to indict itself on charges of treason against itself. So who's left to do it. Why hasn't it been done?
And here is an acceptable theory as to why nothing is being done. Thank you Nynrah.To bring down a building such as the WTC tower, there was more required than simply the efforts or the arabs. There are documents - reports actually - that confirm the usage of thermite there.
Anyway, it was THE perfect excuse to invade Iraq. Warfare means profit and coincidentially theres an oil factor as well. A terrorist attack also inspired enough fear on American citizens so they could be controlled even easier. The state obtained more power over their citizens through the Patriot Act which was also a result of 9-11.
If one considers the story the Bush Administration has told the world, you'll quickly see there are various things that just don't make sense. Off course, many people won't see that, because are too bussy believing we are waging war on the evil terrorists (of which many have been created thanks the US government's habbit of trying to police the world).
What a trite people we tend to be sometimes. Blinded to the actuality of circumstances by overwhelming emotion.Last edited by Bmiricle; 29th-August-2010 at 07:33 PM.
- 29th-August-2010 #15
Re: I'm not American - but even I'm offended by this news...
If I remember correctly, the Patriot Act was brought out and passed only three days after 9-11, this was an Act with over 1,000 pages, it is obvious that this Act was wrote before 9-11.
The members of Congress were told that it would be "Un American" to read the Act before voting on it.
The Patriot Act removes many of the rights and priveledges of the average American citizen.
History shows us that when the people give up their freedoms to get safety, what they always actually get is "Tryanny."God kept His word and sent His Prophet in this day.
Judgement is coming, time is fast running out !!!
Do you know where you stand with God ?




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