Thread: I just saw Geraldo on Fox News blaming fathers for fatherlessness in America.

I used to believe what Mr. Rivera believes. He's halfway there at the least. Society constantly tells us "fathers leave". Once you move to "lack of fathers = bad" and "welfare = no need for fathers", the last step is a bit of logic combined with a bit of redpilling concerning the nature of women.

Usually, men think "a mother never just wants the father out of the family (unless he's abusive/cheating/etc)". That's the wedge in our brains. Truth is, women are human and unpredictable like us. If she comes to find the father's presence out of her ideal and wants him gone, she has all of the legal power to make it reality with zero detriment to herself. She receives financial support and is free to play the mating field, so ridding herself of the father is actually beneficial to her.

Worse, society promotes the "I CAN BE THE MOMMA AND THE DADDY" concept to the point where single motherhood isn't seen as a disadvantage to the child's development, but a badge of honor of how hard a worker a mother is - to the point it seems like classical motherhood receives zero respect from greater society; like if a woman isn't working or solo, she's "meh". I got a "counseling" because I commented "you can't expect men to be men if they've never had a male influence. it's impossible." without a "man" concept, a male can only achieve what someone else tells them. their mother hates the father, and would produce a "correction" that seeks to give any woman all she wants. a wimp, a white knight, mangina, whatever you call them, they're the "corrections" that result from maternally-reinforced indoctrination. they've completely internalized the "chivalry" concept from a young age.

media produces those who emulate the imagery (to various degrees). peers follow, and everyone conforms to the new standard. that's normal, but with zero real guidance it can go south. i dress like the person. i sound like them. i act like them, that's normal, everyone does it. i took the same drugs, that's normal, everyone does it. i went to prison like them, that's normal, everyone does it.

a "man" concept is necessary; be it male teachers, male coaches, other mentor, or (best) the actual father. a teacher can show you the truth, a coach can drill into you the form, but only a father's gonna guide you through all of your mistakes. a father can see the train crash coming, he's seen it all or done it all before. the government isn't a daddy, it isn't even close. all of these PSAs about "drugs, sex, bullying, etc" are poor subs for a daddy saying "dont drink and drive, you'll roll that car, I did. wear your seatbelt, a good friend of mine died when he was ejected during the crash"

So true, both of the above posts. What annoys me, is that when a father IS the one to walk out, suddenly, fatherlessness is awful a thing, and he's a complete swine, for leaving his kid; when a mother cuts the father out, however, all of a sudden, there's nothing wrong with fatherlessness, the love of the mother is enough etc etc. In my opinion, the latter is the worse case scenario; a father who walks out might be stopping his kid from having the love of a father, but a mother cutting the father out is doing not only this, but also stopping a father who wishes for a relationship with his kid, from doing so; sort of like a double whammy. Truth be told, I've come across FAR more fathers who are devastated at not being able to have the relationship they'd like with their kids, than I have mothers who are upset that they are left to raise their kids on their own.

One example of this, which Karl also picked up on, was Hilary Clinton's bullshit, about women being the primary victims of war, saying that they are often left alone to raise children. Do I need to elaborate, as to the irony of a feminist suggesting a woman to be a victim, on the basis of being left to raise her kids alone? No, around here, I doubt that I do...........