Conservatives not marxists are to blame
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Conservatives not marxists are to blame
I am fed up of people using a scapegoat.
I am fed up of women using men as a scapegoat
I am fed up of the British and US govt's using Iraq as a scapegoat
Most of all I am fed up of MRA's saying cultural marxists are to blame for our problems.
As Felixblue pointed out - who introduced the CSA - the Conservatives
And what has been the govt's action since the summer riots of 2011 - it has been to say "yes father need more rights", while doubling the number of taking kids from families
10,000 children taken into care: Numbers have doubled in the past four years | Mail Online
DAILY MAIL
Further the system is "criminalising" kids of an unprecedent scale - to the point at which even judges are begging the government to do something: Magistrate attacks care system saying it 'criminalises children' by prosecuting for trivial matters | Mail Online
Conservatives response: do nothing
The Daily Mail is hardly a left wing paper - it is the backbone of the Conservative party.
And can the Conserviative supporters on this forum tell me the diffrence betwen what Stalin/KGB did and what the conservatives are doing in relation to our civil right? The Conservative govt is backing secret courts and survelliance of ALL emails, ALL phone calls, ALL texts, and ALL the websites you visit, and keeping recrods of these forever!
Nope, cannot blame all this on cultural marxists - but they make a nice whipping boy.
Has anybody stopped to think that maybe some other forces are at work?
David Cameron defends secret courts and surveillance plans | Law | guardian.co.ukThe greatest enemy of the truth is very often not the deliberate lie - but the persistent, persuasive and unrealistic myth that the lie creates
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Re: Conservatives not marxists are to blame
Who are these conservatives you speak of? Sorry, but words like left, right, liberal, conservative, republican, democrat etc... are all meaningless. I strongly discourage anyone from backing any political party blindly. Political parties are just organised corruption, particularly in the system used in Australia and the UK where they effectively make it a perennial case of, "Who the fuck did I just vote for?!?!"
If you've read the article about cultural Marxism I put up the other day you might have noticed that it disputes the idea that Karl Marx invented Marxism. If you read the new testament of the Bible it reeks of Marxist and socialist idealogies... yet Karl Marx wasn't alive back then... hence I believe what we call Marxism is innate to human behaviour on a fundamental level. The way I visualise it is the child stubbornly refusing to grow up and accept the difficulties and perils in life and well-meaning adults instinctively trying to protect that child from reality.
Marxists want to live in a world where if they can't fix everything, they can at least get everyone to pretend that they can fix everything it if weren't for those damned evil people not doing what they've been told to do. They are children whinging about things no one can fix and demanding people fix them for them and if they don't do it, they're evil. Like the day your parents stop helping you put your clothes on and expect you do it for yourself, it was traumatic, but the withdrawal of parent support was the best way your parents could show their love for you. But what happens when that child never gets it? Never comprehends what's happening? Mum and Dad will forever be those evil oppressors controlling that poor innocent victim child.
I don't think it's a coincidence that with the drop in birth rates and corresponding drop in parents in our society that we have a increasing proportion of adult children who think withdrawing parental support is always an act of cruelty and not a necessary a loving act to teach self-reliance. A lesson men traditionally were responsible for teaching both their sons and daughter, teaching them how to survive in the world outside the home... until feminism told men they have to worship their daughters and keep them in perpetual childhood.
Feminists are little girls, who never grew up to be self-reliant, and like little girls they cry, they scream, they stamp their feat and they bitch until they get what they want. Feminists are socialists to the fucking core. The world owes them everything. Stop giving them fruits they haven't earned.
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Re: Conservatives not marxists are to blame
Has anybody stopped to think that maybe some other forces are at work?
antimisandry.com Conservatives not marxists are to blame
Of course.
More to the point, what do YOU think those other forces are?
Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum
Love the Sinner but not the Sin.
(St. Augustine)
“ For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,
against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. “
(and within ourselves)
(Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)
A Feminist is a human being who has lost her way and turned vicious.
If you meet one on the road as you Go your Own Way,
offer kindness but keep your sword drawn.
(Me)
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Re: Conservatives not marxists are to blame
I am a bit pressed for time so i cannot answer all your points in one go. If I saw I studied at Essex Univeristy under laclau and Jessop - Britians top marxists of the 1990's then we can say I am qualified to talk about marxism (yes I was one)
In the bible - and other places there was socialism - romantic - or other. Marx was different in that he invented "Scientific socialism". His theiey was based on HISTORICAL MATERIALISM and the concept of CLASS STRUGGLE. Thats about it really. We can add it the concept of the dialectic, but those 2-3 concepts formthe core of his powerful theory
Cultural marxism is a not possible - its jsut a term of abuse used by some people.
YOu can have CONFLICT theory - conflict theory is that "conflict is the engine of history", ie we are conflicting in this post (-: We can differ (conflict) on what we think should be xy or z. Marx in contrast focused on CLASS STRUGGLE and said "All history is the history of class struggles.
Two very different theories. And very importantly - one can enter "conflict theory" from any poltical perspective - MRA or feminist, as well as "cultural conflicts".
Marxists dont say they can fix everything. They offer an ANALYSIS. What political action you engage in is another issue - it can be the use of the bullet and the bomb, selling newspapers, OWS, etc, etc. There are as many types of marxists as there are christians.
What marxists say is that once class confict has finished it will not mean the end of history (the right chose to say that). People will still argue, fall in love, have rows, but it wont be on the basis of ECONOMIC exploitation.
Having extensive experience of communist countries, I can say they had many progressive aspects - but also very many negative ones. For example, in psot communist countires, there is almost no feminist movements - simply because over here we still treat women as equal - but different - a state of affairs you in the west can only dream about. Even Yan Yan in his posts contrasts his life in the far east with the west in interesting ways.
OK, I have to run now. May try to get to your opther points laterThe greatest enemy of the truth is very often not the deliberate lie - but the persistent, persuasive and unrealistic myth that the lie creates
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Re: Conservatives not marxists are to blame
I blame the Cuntservatives more than Labia because of the simple fact that the Tories brought in solid and devasting legislation that immediately spiked the divorce and separation rates by perversely incentivising family breakdown and removing in one stroke fathers natural guardian status in the family.
The childrens act and the child support act.
Both became operational round 1990.
What freaks me out is that most FRA's do not even seem to think these are a BAD thing..
Fucking fools!
It is NOT the case that these acts are things that need to be "altered to be better"..
THEY NEED FUCKING IGNORING AND NOT USING SO THEY BECOME COUNTER EFFECTIVE TO THE STATE!
The scapegoats I see most often moaned about are "feminists"..
If we are so worried about a bunch of fat, stupid, shit stirring fish and the like then we are scared of something that is only significant when we take them seriously..
Better that men look to men and develop counter cultures that do not need to interact with the beasts.."Women...
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They are so willing to respect other men but the man they make love to and is the father of their children –no way. They try to control him, criticize him,,, " Courtney www.womenlivingwell.org
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