You asshole (not a personal attack).

You had to mention Judas Priest didn't ya?

I haven't had a drop of alcohol in months and I promised myself I would stay away from the music tonight (I tend to get loud singing to the music) but you had to mention Priest!!!

Well, it isn't JP I am craving, it is another British band....I gotta have some Maiden. The headphones are on now...my neighbors thank you!!!

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You asshole (not a personal attack).

You had to mention Judas Priest didn't ya?

I haven't had a drop of alcohol in months and I promised myself I would stay away from the music tonight (I tend to get loud singing to the music) but you had to mention Priest!!!

Well, it isn't JP I am craving, it is another British band....I gotta have some Maiden. The headphones are on now...my neighbors thank you!!!

LOL!!!!!!

Dude, you've got to appreciate the music, and not let it be an enabler, man! Metal doesn't have to be alcohol dude!

Also, in case u didn't notice, Maiden is pretty much my identity. I have the eddie smiley from 2000 as my avatar, named myself after a Maiden song, and have A RARE PERFORMANCE OF A MAIDEN SONG ON MY AM PROFILE AS A YOUTUBE VIDEO! (More temptation! muhahahah.....)

Enjoy you loud singing, and I hope you at least you do justice to Metal God Rob Halford with your vocals. Even your neighbors should appreciate that!

Marx, if this discussion goes any further, I'll be sure to adjourn with Garak to a PM session, so as not to compromise the integrity of this post, thanks and sorry.

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LOL!!!!!!

Dude, you've got to appreciate the music, and not let it be an enabler, man! Metal doesn't have to be alcohol dude!

Also, in case u didn't notice, Maiden is pretty much my identity. I have the eddie smiley from 2000 as my avatar, named myself after a Maiden song, and have A RARE PERFORMANCE OF A MAIDEN SONG ON MY AM PROFILE AS A YOUTUBE VIDEO! (More temptation! muhahahah.....)

Enjoy you loud singing, and I hope you at least you do justice to Metal God Rob Halford with your vocals. Even your neighbors should appreciate that!

Marx, if this discussion goes any further, I'll be sure to adjourn with Garak to a PM session, so as not to compromise the integrity of this post, thanks and sorry.

Once I was a great singer, I tried and suceeded in emulating Mr. Dickinson and was a vocalist in several local metal bands. That was years ago though, today...my singing is scary!

Ya know, I've always wondered something and this may just be the place to ask.

Do Brits appreciate Maiden, Ozzy, Def Leppard, Priest, etc... as much as Americans did?

Where do we release our anger, and get a good laugh, If it can not be done amongst our own? Where do we present ripostes to the constant stream of mass media man-bashing?-Drifter

Using fellow MRAs as outlets may be good for some, or even you, but it is bad for the cause. You need to find outlets that build ones power and others- like exercise.

As for the Metal. I liked Maiden when they had the old singer and guitarist, and didn't like the switch for the singer from Saxon. "Women in Uniform" was their first best song. Have always liked Judas Priest though, but I've always been a "Motorhead" man when it comes to metal, as I like Lemmy when he was with Hawkwind. Now that's a band that no one is bound to know, but was important.

Avoid the sauce and submit to the power that makes one fight, not kiss the bowl, crash out on the coach and get dick done. I like other music, like glorious classical too, for when you are a middlelinebacker this music gets the job done. Control the booze or it will control you.

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Using fellow MRAs as outlets may be good for some, or even you, but it is bad for the cause. You need to find outlets that build ones power and others- like exercise.

As for the Metal. I liked Maiden when they had the old singer and guitarist, and didn't like the switch for the singer from Saxon. "Women in Uniform" was their first best song. Have always liked Judas Priest though, but I've always been a "Motorhead" man when it comes to metal, as I like Lemmy when he was with Hawkwind. Now that's a band that no one is bound to know, but was important.

Avoid the sauce and submit to the power that makes one fight, not kiss the bowl, crash out on the coach and get dick done. I like other music, like glorious classical too, for when you are a middlelinebacker this music gets the job done. Control the booze or it will control you.

Saxon?

Do you mean Paul Dianno (or something)?

I always though Dickinson was the shit. Ever see that mans stomach? He had a vocalist' stomach and with the help of my choir teacher I was able to emulate it. That stomach....it gives alot of power to the vocal chords.

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As for the Metal. I liked Maiden when they had the old singer and guitarist, and didn't like the switch for the singer from Saxon. "Women in Uniform" was their first best song. Have always liked Judas Priest though, but I've always been a "Motorhead" man when it comes to metal, as I like Lemmy when he was with Hawkwind. Now that's a band that no one is bound to know, but was important.

Avoid the sauce and submit to the power that makes one fight, not kiss the bowl, crash out on the coach and get dick done. I like other music, like glorious classical too, for when you are a middlelinebacker this music gets the job done. Control the booze or it will control you.

LOL, I think we need to move this conversation somewhere else.

I think it's pretty interesting that you like Paul over Bruce. I think Killers is my favorite album, actually, but I still acknowledge Bruce's material as awesome. Blaze Bayley did some awesome songs too. And, come on, are you sure "Women in Uniform" is your favorite song? You're just saying that, right, cause we're here, you know?

I'm not sure if Marx will let us continue this discussion. We'd better shut up.

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LOL, I think we need to move this conversation somewhere else.

I think it's pretty interesting that you like Paul over Bruce. I think Killers is my favorite album, actually, but I still acknowledge Bruce's material as awesome. Blaze Bayley did some awesome songs too. And, come on, are you sure "Women in Uniform" is your favorite song? You're just saying that, right, cause we're here, you know?

I'm not sure if Marx will let us continue this discussion. We'd better shut up.

I am sure Marx wouldn't forbid discussion of music on this board. In fact, I really want to know what Marx thinks of British metal bands.

Seven Deadly Sins
Seven Ways to win
Seven holy paths to hell....and your trip begins
Seven downward slopes
Seven bloodied hopes
Seven are burning fires
Seven your desires....

My god, you can't beat Steve Harris' songwriting in the Dickinson years.

LOL, I think we need to move this conversation somewhere else.-Drifter

No, I can't think of a better ending to Glenn's whining to keep his listener demographics female friendly than to end it at the feet of the Metal madness. I'm listening to "Killers" as I type.

Yes Paul Di' Anno, Garak, and what was the other bloke's name? My CD doesn't even have the damn names of the band. &^%$#)*&^.

I thought the old guitarists played together with more classical in their ability and not go off to endless leads. They had, like good classical music, a total output purpose feel to them. The new band got cliché very quickly for me. For some reason modern metal feels like they must play at all times or they aren't any good. Breaks, combination like classical is what it needs to be great, but I'm not into arguing this for I got fed up with the crappy stuff that is soooo coool maaaaan.

I was the first & only supporter of Maiden where I lived for years and just as they hit the big time they made the switch of these 2. The other new singer Bruce Dickinson sounded better with Saxon, and they had a few good albums with the Dick after the switch, but I got the ick factor when every North American wannabe started being Maiden fans because everyone else was. I hate Monday-morning-quarterbacks with dreams of grandeur.

I went with Motorhead and have seen them in 3 countries now, as I heard Hawkwind and was blown away by their stuff and went along with Lemmy's Motorhead album with them. Lemmy was Punk friendly when it wasn't good for business either. I really wish there had been a lyrically Punk bad with the instrumental ability of the metal bands, for it seems to be one or the other. The talent level has gone down as they said it would with videos and MTV!

Anti-Nowhere League was almost there, and I lipped sinked their song "Woman" at my high school contest to dropped jaws. The prettest female teacher at the school gave me the most impressed look for that song, that was a total damnation of pop there ever was. Though I got the prettiest secretary in my hey days at school to the total ever lasting shock of all the people I knew at the time.

My friend DOA said, "You know there is a clean version of that song" and dared me to do it on stage with all the pop preppies acts. I was from another planet then to for my taste that no one knew, though as captain of the football team so got "0" guff (unless they were into pain). The Anti-Nowhere song "Woman” should be our MRA anthem as it starts out like a lovey dovey song about a bloke "so in looooove", and then she starts to rag on him and picks her nose etc. and he takes it and takes it and then goes into the most biting part of the song, that is the best damnation of all the BS songs today that I know of.

I like new Rush, older Maiden & Motorhead, almost everything of Judas Priest and AC/DC (both singers) and then some Oi (Combat 84 and The Business-"6000 miles is a long way to go to be beaten by a Dwarf in Mexico"). I just can't handle the cliché "sex, drugs and Rock & Roll" for too long or I get the urge to pop someone with black T-shist and says, " Hey Mannnnnnn." Lemmy is the only one that can carry it off, as he is insane (as I am in a real fight!).

Wow listening to the old Maiden gets me pumping out the war stories something bad. I'm pumped, who can I hit? Where is a mangina when you need one!

I got so fed up with the lack of talent with so many bands I went over to Ska and hardly ever bothered to listen to so much repetitive stuff (which is why I hate pop), which is my beef with rap (which has the added bonus of taking about sex, drugs and Rap).

Just listen to the Maiden's first album and their single "Women in Uniform" and you can see sometimes a guitarist can just give a few notes here and there, or play the same lines as the other guitarist at certain points and it just kicks ass. Like the Ramones, if you dump their lessons on history.

They have all gone with the "wall of sound" from Bowie's "Monsters" and can't seem to play with the idea that it is like an orchestra and the finally output is key. It is like this with so many things like the MRA cause and movies with their actors that must get their share of lines in or they bitch (hang'em), me me me, and not what works best!

I like reggae for the sunny afternoons, ska for dancing, and before battle metal and classical. Punk is best for getting the revolutionary juices going. Oi for a beer with the lads and a mencing nasty disposition.

Also Hendricks was the best ever.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Tera the hippie!

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No, I can't think of a better ending to Glenn's whining to keep his listener demographics female friendly than to end it at the feet of the Metal madness. I'm listening to "Killers" as I type.

Yes Paul Di' Anno, Garak, and what was the other bloke's name? My CD doesn't even have the damn names of the band. &^%$#)*&^.



I was the first & only supporter of Maiden where I lived for years and just as they hit the big time they made the switch of these 2. The other new singer Bruce Dickinson sounded better with Saxon, and they had a few good albums with the Dick after the switch, but I got the ick factor when every North American wannabe started being Maiden fans because everyone else was. I hate Monday-morning-quarterbacks with dreams of grandeur.

To correct you Timocrat, and to clear it up Garak (I don't care anymore about off-topic, this post already had a lot replies anyway), the band Dickinson was in before Maiden was SAMSON, NOT Saxon. Saxon was another gr8 NWOBHM band, but AFAIK, no member of Maiden was ever associated with Saxon. Samson featured cooky drummer Barry "Thundersticks" Purkis, who performed in a cage live and wore BDSM equipment, but actually performed in Maiden for a while (see Maiden's "Early Days" documentary), after the ****ole Dennis Wilcock (he liked sheep) broke up the band and got the guitar anchor of Maiden, Dave Murray, fired. Thundersticks sucked, and the band actually had only 1 guitar and a keyboardist (TOO EARLY for Maiden to start using keyboards), so Harris was like "I gotta start over". So he fired everybody and hired back Dave Murray (who remains to this day, 1977-2008+) and his pre-Maiden bandmate Doug Sampson (NOT Samson.... god this is confusing) from the band Smiler. Samson founder, Paul Samson, sadly died a few years ago. Dickinson did two albums, I believe, with Samson - "Head On" and "Shock Tactics". You can check me on that.

Also, I think it's cool that you think Paul di'Anno matches up to Dickinson. Lots of ppl feel DiAnno added an orginal edge to the music, with his punky voice like Lemmy Kilmister, whereas Dickinson made the band more accessible. As I said - I love Killers. "Purgatory" "Twilight Zone" "Murders in the Rue Morgue" "Wrathchild" and of course "DRIFTER" are all excellent songs, and also "Innocent Exile" and "Genghis Khan". I like to think Maiden was also intriguing with a little bit of anti-feminist twist back then, considering MITRM had two dead girls (yet most murder victims are men), and the FALSE ACCUSATION of the narrator as a killer, among other things. Also, of course "Women in Uniform" with the cover of the single feat. Margaret Thatcher coming to gun down Eddie for the sake of revenge against him killing her on the "Sanctuary" single! But, still, Dickinson was awesome, and certainly still allowed the band to still be original. Paul could NOT have cracked it at songs like "Hallowed be Thy Name" or "Rime of the Ancient Mariner". Maiden would have only been just an afterthought of the NWOBHM without Bruce Bruce. Also, you think Dennis Stratton was better than Adrian Smith? No way. Adrian also brought with him the chemistry of being Dave Murray's childhood friend and former Urchin bandmate.

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Seven Deadly Sins
Seven Ways to win
Seven holy paths to hell....and your trip begins
Seven downward slopes
Seven bloodied hopes
Seven are burning fires
Seven your desires....

My god, you can't beat Steve Harris' songwriting in the Dickinson years.

More proof of Dick's excellence. Also "Alexander the Great", Mariner, To Tame a Land, the Trooper, and let's not forget what Bruce/Adrian brought to the table - Flight of Icarus, Revelations, Powerslave, Wasted Years, Stranger in a Strange Land, Can I Play with Madness, The Evil that Manginas Do (I wish.... It's the Evil that Men Do) - and more!

Yeah, I like the way Maiden's history turned out - DiAnno, then Dickinson, and Bayley had some excellent hits like Angel and Gamber, Clansman, Sign of the Cross, MAN on the Edge, the Aftermath, etc. Just a great musical development.

I would say also outside of Maiden and classic Metal, Thrash, Power, Progressive, and Neo-classical are the best genres. Also, I guess I agree with Timocrat that Reggae and Punk are good since they are closely tied to Hard Rock. I would also say the Jazz and Blues are important. In terms of Classical Music, I go with Contemporary and Baroque.

We need a miscellaneous part of the discussion board to move this to. I'm sure there is one, but we're not making use of it.

Moved to 'Music' category from this thread.