well to be honest i didn´t get all of the lyrics coz i am an austrian

but i do understand some of it and it sounds kinda angry and a bit unthoughtful/insulting but thats nothing that can´t be polished (and i did get the very poor production standard)...

what i want to say bout this issue is:

don´t discard something like this, mad shangi obviously put some creative energy into this, rather help him to develop good lyrics! he´s angry and he wants to move something and this kind of energy shouldn´t be wasted by too negative feedback... his flow and his lyrics could be better but thats nothing that can´t be corrected. realism is a good thing, but don´t crush him..!

you are right if you say this kind of release is counterproductive, but that doesn´t mean that something like that should never happen... productions like that should rather be professionalized to avoid negative associations

if you can help him with appropriate lyrics am more than able to help him with some audio production skills (i am a audio enineer) it IS possible to give something like this a positive spin...

but of course he should get rid of the metaphoric middle finger (and the actual one)...

The MRM has to 'fix' its flag to a small number of serious issues and use whatever usful means are available - and coming on-line - to get a coherent and sense-driven message across. Without sound arguement and facts and a firm stance on matters that matter, we will not be taken seriously by the general public.

General ranting is legitimate in the barracks, to a point, in that a lot of steam can be vented and the pain that men feel can be listened to in a safe space. But even that needs to be authentic.

Inventing angst and railing against 16 year old bimbos with a mouth and no brain, by MRAs with mouth and no brain, simply drags the movement down.

YouTube is an ideal vehicle for reaching a large number of people. Unfortunately large crowds contain large numbers of dorks as well as a few reasonable people. Appealing to the dorks gets us no-where. We NEED to convince the reasonable people who have been carrying a shit-load of agitprop for most of their lives.

I am full of admiration for those young men in the MRM who have energy and technical nous, but when they rant and fulminate against targets that barely deserve attention at all, we lose the opportunities, and worse - we alienate far too many of the reasonable folk who would otherwise see the sense in our more carefully composed efforts.

You guys know this our own Madshengi that posts here right?

While I agree that being trivial about such important issues does not help make these issues important to those who make the laws.

To him maybe he feels that to people of his generation that this is a valid way of getting your point accross.

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You guys know this our own Madshengi that posts here right?

While I agree that being trivial about such important issues does not help make these issues important to those who make the laws.

To him maybe he feels that to people of his generation that this is a valid way of getting your point accross.

Yes I am aware of that and I cannot find any excuse for this type of behaviour..

It does no one any good let alone the poster..

This video has been out for a long while now..and back when he first put up the lyrics (before he made the video) I spoke out about it. Like you, CJ, I didn't find it all that mature or helpful to the MRA image.. but, I don't think he cares too much for my opinion. (Not many do.)

We can't stop him from doing what he's doing.

He'll probably grow out of it eventually. He's quite young...and he's quite intelligent.

Madshangi is not the MRM leader you know. Does this really matter? Will feminists actually be able to use this as some sort of claim of oppression? I think we should just let it go.

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This video has been out for a long while now..and back when he first put up the lyrics (before he made the video) I spoke out about it. Like you, CJ, I didn't find it all that mature or helpful to the MRA image.. but, I don't think he cares too much for my opinion. (Not many do.)

We can't stop him from doing what he's doing.

He'll probably grow out of it eventually. He's quite young...and he's quite intelligent.

Well, I am hoping that some on here will benefit from your insightfullness, unfortunately many leading MRAs are banging their heads against the wall wondering when this stupidity will stop and when will they finally step up to the plate to be a cohesive, orderlie and a logically functioning force..

I have my doubts if I will live that long..

Not bad, thats one way of telling the stupid cunts!

CJ, the feminists have never taken a blind bit of notice in common sense and reason and never will..

Having a bit of fun while pissing them off is as good as anything!

In fact, if the MRM was more fun, it might have more people take an interest in it!

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Not bad, thats one way of telling the stupid cunts!

CJ, the feminists have never taken a blind bit of notice in common sense and reason and never will..

Having a bit of fun while pissing them off is as good as anything!

In fact, if the MRM was more fun, it might have more people take an interest in it!

We will never have any credibilty while fuckwits go off on their wetdream..

If you think that this type of behaviour is going to get us anywhere than maybe you are wasting your time as well..

We NEED a cohesive, coherent and logical process and one that is consistent as well..
While boys feel the need to "fanny about" and fuck it up for everyone else is just not acceptable and I will be damned if I have to tolerate such childish behaviour..
They have to grow up..

It's time they faced reality..

Here is what I left in his comments section.

The men's rights movement is in need of more strong, intelligent voices to address the things you rapped about.

Maybe, when you mature out of this childish raging, you can find a way to address important topics that people will actually listen to..

You have talents, young man, please use them to help instead of hurt the men in this movement.

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The MRM has to 'fix' its flag to a small number of serious issues and use whatever usful means are available - and coming on-line - to get a coherent and sense-driven message across. Without sound arguement and facts and a firm stance on matters that matter, we will not be taken seriously by the general public.

General ranting is legitimate in the barracks, to a point, in that a lot of steam can be vented and the pain that men feel can be listened to in a safe space. But even that needs to be authentic.

Inventing angst and railing against 16 year old bimbos with a mouth and no brain, by MRAs with mouth and no brain, simply drags the movement down.

YouTube is an ideal vehicle for reaching a large number of people. Unfortunately large crowds contain large numbers of dorks as well as a few reasonable people. Appealing to the dorks gets us no-where. We NEED to convince the reasonable people who have been carrying a shit-load of agitprop for most of their lives.

I am full of admiration for those young men in the MRM who have energy and technical nous, but when they rant and fulminate against targets that barely deserve attention at all, we lose the opportunities, and worse - we alienate far too many of the reasonable folk who would otherwise see the sense in our more carefully composed efforts.

Yes, yes and yes. Print it out, frame it and nail it on your living-room wall.

United and focused on the cause, not divided by infights and different opinions about secondary things.

(btw I don´t see that video as critical as others do, but Percy in general is right)

it flouts the feminit onsalught and so it is thumbs up from me

the MRM is not about appeasing feminits especially after the arrogant imposts they have dumped on men for the last 40 years

like their peonage court system that flay and s truncates men

do we need in camera star chamber systems supported by a host of legal parasites in the 21 ist century !!!

there are some members on this forum who can give particulars about the machinations and tender mercies of this fucked chamber !!!

the feminits are no intersted in polite admonishments from well and truly screwed men eg those receiving the peonage bequest from their Family Court which Stalin would have curled his toes to

MC keep it up

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it flouts the feminit onsalught and so it is thumbs up from me

the MRM is not about appeasing feminits especially after the arrogant imposts they have dumped on men for the last 40 years

like their peonage court system that flay and s truncates men

do we need in camera star chamber systems supported by a host of legal parasites in the 21 ist century !!!

there are some members on this forum who can give particulars about the machinations and tender mercies of this fucked chamber !!!

the feminits are no intersted in polite admonishments from well and truly screwed men eg those receiving the peonage bequest from their Family Court which Stalin would have curled his toes to

MC keep it up

You remind of the usual agiprop feminists use..

Feel better now or do you need to rage a bit more ?

Want to use that boundless energy ?

Ask Amfortas, he needs someone to do some research or is that just too much to ask as it would seem that raging is more your style ?

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You remind of the usual agiprop feminists use..

Feel better now or do you need to rage a bit more ?

Want to use that boundless energy ?

""I get really pissed off when I see men claiming to be MRAs exposing the mens movement to this type of drivel..""

so be pissed of but other men are entitled to their venting and opinions this forum was not your creation anyhow


Ask Amfortas, he needs someone to do some research or is that just too much to ask as it would seem that raging is more your style ?

""I get really pissed off when I see men claiming to be MRAs exposing the mens movement to this type of drivel..""

so be pissed of but other men are entitled to their venting and opinions this forum was not your creation anyhow and recognising their passage throughthe Family Court and its impacts on their lives is valid in this forum and they certainly are entitled to tenure albiet your rejection of their valid opinions



you are clearly a feminit apologist

must admit I could never keep up with your turgid posts

but who would heed you mindnless chattering any way