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I'm all for harsh truths, keep em coming... find you're fixation with homosexuals as perturbing and tiresome as you obviously find with a member who incessantly drones on about his ex-wife. Apart from that, the majority of you're writing is good reading.

Hmmmm... How to disagree - without flaming - has long been a peculiar challenge of the internet, particularly with the immediate gratification of hurling whatever back in the face of whoever - instantly available with the tap of a key.

Thus, Suffice it to say - at least on this particular thread (I plan to keep the discussion going on more appropriately titled threads) that I do not agree with your position.

I looked up your own profile and you post a quote from Joseph Goebbles on it dealing with Thought Policing, yet find references to the resurgence of the Homosex Hate Machine that gave rise to Goebbles to be 'perturbing and tiresome'...

I am, as I have made clear, Greatly Alarmed by the Rise of nazi like Thought Police Again - and I see the Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex lobby as the main Source! It is 'perturbing' and thus many feel unsettled by my posting about it - but I do not do so gratuitously or just for giggles either.

If those pushing the sick hatreds and vile perversions of the Radical Feminist / Homosex agenda were just a few nuts on the fringe with no power to harm soceity, I would not be bothered with them - save to warn occasionally about feeding them tax money.

However - they are the Power Brokers in the Democratic Party (from Barney Frank as chair of the US House Appropriations Committee to Zelda Kuehl and the Lavender Mafia in Sacramento) and are passing the most DRACONIAN THOUGH CRIME LAWS IN MODERN HISTORY.

If those pushing the sick hatreds and vile perversions of the Radical Feminist / Homosex agenda were just a few nuts on the fringe with no power to harm soceity, I would not be bothered with them - save to warn occasionally about feeding them tax money.

However - they are the Power Brokers in the Democratic Party (from Barney Frank as chair of the US House Appropriations Committee to Zelda Kuehl and the Lavender Mafia in Sacramento) and are passing the most DRACONIAN THOUGH CRIME LAWS IN MODERN HISTORY.[/quote]

That one got posted before finishing - but it didn't have long to go anywayyy..... So I will just add a few lines more before moving on:

So Too in Canada, England, New Zealand and so many other parts of the allegedly 'civilized' world - For while there are plenty of places one can be financially and professionally destroyed and even thrown in jail for criticizing the government or its leaders, it is in the 'progressive' West that such punishment is being Introduced for those who Dare to Criticize Radical Homosex Pandering.

I submit that my inclusion of such facts / paradigms in my analysis of issues is quite different than an individual obsessing about the specific facts of a particularly divorce and his feelings about that, which is a micro focus discussion - as opposed to my macro view of a soceital trend that effects all.

As the other threads I will now take this discussion to show - Jail Time for Thought Crime is a Reality, even if they are calling it 'intolerance or hate crime' - and it is almost exclusively a Radical Homosex Agenda that it seeks to protect and promote in a manner different from the treatment afforded to all other political viewpoints.

NUFF Said for here... For Now...

Question though - would it 'perturb' you if I followed up in this thread with stories (from other sources) concernign Michael Ovitz and his punishment for daring to suggest that there was a "Gay Mafia" in Hollywerid, or the influence on the public through Misandrist Hate Propaganda promulgated by said alleged "Gay Mafia"?

Ohso
Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell 1984 On the Thought Police.

Quote from Percy

Yankeeland ?? That is WW2 RAF aircrew chat, dear boy. (Wg.Cmdr. Whacko-Prang, DFC, JGC RAF (Retd) )

You Tread Dangerous Waters Sir.

I warn you that I have an entire arsenal of Genuine Pythonesque RAF 'Banter' on DVD as "evidence to be used against you, kid" (an obscure reference to 'Alice's Restaurant'), and while I thus consider your statements a little on the 'tinny' side, I assure you that a most 'woody' reply can be mustered.

BTW - I also have a copy of Fighter Ace Hugh Dundas' short story "Flying Start" (from 'The Book of War' by John Keegan) written at RAF Tangmere in 41, and there is narry a roger or a wilco to be found in his narration of a 'typical' day, although ole 'DB' is frequently mentioned.

Now - as any tongue in cheek hystorian can tell you, simply from reading that master work of dialog if not historical analysis known as "Piece of Cake" (By Derek Robinson) if naught else; it was primarily a few plucky Yanks in the RAF (like the character 'CH3') who managed to get them to pull their fingers out and get busy shootin the bloody hun like the varmints they wuz...

Ahem.

Now that your blood pressure has risen appropriately, I assure you my understanding of these events is not nearly that shallow, and if naught else I would not sully the memory of those Brave Men who helped save the world from the 'HomoNazi' threat of "a new dark age made more sinister by the lights of perverted science"

That being said, didn't I just recently see published pictures of ole Flight Commander the Honorable Vis-Kleen - Dufus of Wizard Prang... nibbling at the croquet hoops?

Ohso
Roger - Caribou in Sights

Quote from Ohso

I looked up your own profile and you post a quote from Joseph Goebbles on it dealing with Thought Policing, yet find references to the resurgence of the Homosex Hate Machine that gave rise to Goebbles to be 'perturbing and tiresome'...

Hopefully you saw the Joseph Goebbels quote as being an alarming illumination of how insidious governments can operate unfettered by the democratic concerns of it's people, not a template to how things must be.

Invariably you can take many quotes and extrapolate some kind of revelance to reinforce almost any self-serving idea. You're addition of attaching my phrases at the end shows amateurism.

Question though - would it 'perturb' you if I followed up in this thread with stories (from other sources) concernign Michael Ovitz and his punishment for daring to suggest that there was a "Gay Mafia" in Hollywerid, or the influence on the public through Misandrist Hate Propaganda promulgated by said alleged "Gay Mafia"?

Ohso, even though you insist on 'deliberately' using my phraseology excessively in you're answers for intended effect - you can follow up any story as long as you provide a modicum of substantiation to it. It wouldn't 'perturb' me at all. OK.

Ohso, even though you insist on 'deliberately' using my phraseology excessively in you're answers for intended effect - you can follow up any story as long as you provide a modicum of substantiation to it. It wouldn't 'perturb' me at all. OK.[/quote]

Challenge Accepted...

Straw Man Logic

Our discussion (such as it is) of “Gay Marriage” offers an opportunity to address some of the standard party line Ms./Dis-Information that is so often used by the media to cover up the truth about the Radical Homosex Lobby (RHL) and its agenda.

Of course when discussing the “4th Estate of the Government” (our ‘independent’ bought and paid for 'Free Press', the one with no balances and which mega $ checks control), one should never inquire too deeply in to the leftist and pro-homosex bias of said selfsame guardians of the truth. Not unless you want to find out how toothless a watchdog our not so ever vigilant media is when it comes to fairness in presenting issues for said public debate.

The pseudo liberal / Pro Homosex bias in the media is so great that one would almost suspect some sort of Hollyweird / Media ‘Gay Mafia” was at work. But this just cant be true… At least 'Officially'.

OR - as Hollyweird Mogul Michael Ovitz informed us so eloquently in his recent apology to the non-existent Hollyweird “Gay Mafia.” he had previously discussed in public remarks – An apology that was most definitely Not provided at the insistence of any sort of “Gay Mafia” – Which certainly doesn’t exist, at all, officially, and don’t ask any more about it:

"I made some statements that were inappropriate during an open and frank discussion with Vanity Fair… In particular the term 'gay mafia' does not reflect my true feelings or attitudes. It is regrettable and I am truly sorry." Michael Ovitz.

No doubt he is indeed really truly sorry. I wonder if he will be allowed (by said non-existent mafia) to fall on his sword convincingly in any sequel productions? Regardless, the important point to remember is that there is No “Gay Mafia” in the media trying to control this debate – officially, and don’t ask questions of our watchdogs either.

Anywayyyyyy… The use of “Straw Men” (also known as “Meat Puppets”) has a long and dishonorable tradition in the world, but few have taken the concept as far as our own beloved Non Gay Mafia Media in Hollyweird Kalifornia, Weimar Amerika, Inc.

For instance, anyone who visits the Smithsonian museum can now see the very chairs of Norman Lear’s favorite Meat Puppets – Archie Bunker and Dingbat, right from the television stage. Bunker was such a successful straw man for the left that his legacy lives on to this day, constantly recreated in what are passed as ‘sitcoms’ (you can tell by the laugh track needed to get the political point across) churned out by hollyweird.

Bunker was the prefect meat puppet, as he could always be fed semi-humorous losing dialogue, designed to make the pretensions of the left look good by comparison. This is the type ‘dialogue’ most preferred by our media, where the outcome is guaranteed to be a victory for ‘goodness’ (as opposed to ‘un-goodness’), even if they have to fudge the contestants and put in a few ringers – on the opposite side.

However, sometimes it is not necessary for the left to create their own comic punching bags, as there are more than enough buffoons out there willing to play that media role – provided it pays well. Thus it is always proper to pay homage to those favorite ‘Straw Man / Poster Boy’ Icons of the Left, like Fred Phelps and David Duke.

Where the Radical Homosex Lobby would be without these bombastic bozo ‘Telepersonalities’ to provide the foundation of their fundraising efforts no one can say – but it is clear that there is some sort of symbiotic relationship between the two camps. It is not so much as that they feed off each other, but more like recycling each other’s waste in to money and publicity.

Not that there is anything uncommon with such tactics mind you, it is a standard move by those with very weak cases to pick their ‘favorite’ opposition and pretend that it is the only one in existence. Thus, when you vanquish a boob like Fred Phelps, you have officially destroyed all counter arguments from all sources, including those sources that you have deliberately ignored because you have no answers to their arguments. Such is the ‘straw man’ logic of the RHL, and why not – when you have nothing better to offer?

Watch for all these tactics and more, as we progress with the sham of “public debate” about pandering to the hatreds and perversions of the Radical Homosex Lobby – including the Orwellian Pretense of such hatreds and perversions fostering “Marriage”

Yup – Sounds Totally Liberace Gay to Me

Ohso

"Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense."George Orwell, on the Thought Police - 1984

It's a pity, he seemed like a nice guy.

Just a thought, you think they got him into it just to promote feminism to trekkies? It would be about as perfect a sale point as you could get.

Team America - Doomed in Space

Historically speaking, the career path associated with the job title ‘Prophet of Doom’ has been a decidedly iffy prospect, at best. Consider for instance the classic dilemma associated with the horns of the two edged sword of ‘Doom’, otherwise known to modern philosophy as ‘Bart’s Dilemma’ - You are doomed if you do and doomed if you don’t!

IF the prophecy proves unreliable, or unreasonably delayed, the public tends to loose faith in future predictions, kind of like the weather forecasters who predicted sunshine being lynched by the flood survivors, only different. However, on the other horn as they say, regardless of any feelings of self worth or personal vindication that may arise from a successful prediction of ‘Doom’ (not that these feelings don’t matter, mind you), they must be balanced against the fact that said end result is after all ‘Doom’, and generally viewed as not all that great an alternative to begin with.

Thus it is that the ‘Creators’ (Of the worlds greatest exploding action pupper movie ever - Team America; may their many skin folds never know fungus) have again shown the whole wide world of both their ability to peer in to the future and foresee doom, and also the way to defuse the inevitable, through affirmative acting. Those who think that it is mere coincidence that evil megalomaniac North Korean dictator Kim Jung Il has chosen this particular moment to declare to the world that he has both Nukes and the iron will needed to Let the Birds Fly, fail to understand the power of a film like Team America. Let there be no doubt about it then, how ever much ole Il may dislike America and its President, it is Parker and Stone who have really pissed him off with their cheesy depiction of him as a world class evil megalomaniac and lousy singer, and the odds on a certain hot tub residing at the very top of ole Il’s Nuke target list would make even a bookie shiver.

Actually, it is an interesting sort of stand off taking place between Il and the ‘Creators’ (Blessings and Peace be upon their cleaning staff) right now, with the scales of power delicately balanced. Consider - Parker and Stone have about a million times more money than Il, and all three have about the same level of negative personal publicity; Il has a fleet of ballistic nukes registered on the heat signature of certain Rocky mountain hot tubs, but the ‘Creators’ (may their mutations be small and profitable) have their own secret weapon – Cartman. Oh, and of course the fact that they live in the middle of the world’s number one nuclear arsenal (H.Q. – Rockies), complete with ballistic subs off the Korean coast to make sure ole Il is vaporized long before any news of Colorado hot tub accidents arrives.

Speaking of bad news, comedy institution SNL under Queen Tina seems to be producing little else, complete with flashing knives in the skits portending imminent doom. But bless her bush hating little heart, she did help produce a minor miracle ending for this post, which was in serious trouble of major rambling. I refer of course to the skit “gays in space” that was a take off of a certain TV program featuring a quintet of ultra poufy homo-anal male queens in a bitchy redecorating frenzy making over the mess of a life of some rigidly linear and unbending guy. But it was only when their gay ole journey was interrupted by a tractor beam seizing them by the space balls as it were, that prophesy & reality merged for a moment.

Given my own past discussion of the types of Neo-Exterminationist Feminazis & Dyke Separatists who are profiled in the book “Lesbians Raising Sons” (J. Wells) and the ‘Turkey Baster Baby’ revolution that lead to such sights as “Dykes with Tykes” marching in the annual Frisco Anti Male Hate Riot / Dyke March, which of course Bans Men from the streets in the process, all except for the youngest, who get different treatment… It was horrifyingly gratifying to see inside the mind of Tina when it turned out that it was Zelda – Queen of the Space Dykes (Rachel Dratch, in Butch Drag), holding hostage captain quirk and his merry bugger band for sperm.

Apparently the Space Dykes were concerned that they were doomed without heterosexual reproduction, but not allowing men to live among them and probably having run the freezer dry meant they needed a fresh supply. The only problem, Space Queen Zelda (Dratch, looking better than usual) and her butch crew have no more interest in transferring cargo the old fashioned way than they do of opening the air locks without suits; and the same goes for the sperm sources, who I can actually sympathize with, looking at Zelda Dratch. The solution is both ingenious and ominous: the Space Dykes create some sort of heavily oiled android / cyborg (kind of like Der Arnold, Kalifornia Uber Kommandant, Inc., in his steroid salad days) which they call a sperm collection device – and the queens go wild for the idea, with captain quirk setting course for “Uranus” right off.

They don’t get in to the nature of the sperm collection android, although it is probably modeled on the standard turkey baster baby design mode, and I personally don’t care to speculate about storage and cleaning. Still, it is one solution to the problem of ultimate doom, once the forward looking radical homosex G&L alliance has removed the messy heterosex breeders from the reproduction equation, all in the name of tolerance and diversity of course.

Best keep quiet about it though, wouldn’t want to spread any “Ism-Obia’

What with everything else going around and all.

Ohso

Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. Gorge Orwell – 1984 On the Thought Police.