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    This is a discussion on EU Study: Women Make Worse Bosses within the Miscellaneous Chat forums, part of the Men's Talk & Variety category; I got this article through the Danish Website "Maskulin Modstand". It's been translated through Google. I apologize in advance. Some ...


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    EU Study: Women Make Worse Bosses

    I got this article through the Danish Website "Maskulin Modstand". It's been translated through Google. I apologize in advance. Some of the words used in the article, such as "ramler", are apparently Danish idiomatic expressions that can only be roughly translated.


    Kvinder dur ikke som chefer:
    Women are not good as commanders

    A new EU study shows that employee satisfaction on the job falls by 40 percent if the head is a woman.

    "An EU study showed last week that female managers can be real devils. It was an embarrassment for those who have made it a life mission to get more women on lederposter. But Jyllands-Posten's report was clear enough: If you are a woman with a woman boss, the likelihood of being bullied on the job is twice as great as if you had a male boss. If you are a man with a female boss, the risk is not quite so great - a paltry 80 percent.

    21,000 citizens participated in the large study, which also shows that employee satisfaction on the job falls by 40 percent if the head is a woman.

    Shocked experts are feverishly running after politically correct explanations.

    Male Researcher (this one has the RUC) Kenneth Reinicke:
    Men have greater experience of being heads. The roles are not as clearly defined when the head is a woman.

    Psychologist Eva Gemzøe Mikkelsen, consultant Crecea, called the study a mystery: There is otherwise little research that suggests that there are more men than women who mobber.

    Psychologist Rikke Brix, Psychologist Center Frederikshavn-Sindal: It could be that women attach great importance to open and free dialogue. Female heads are irreconcilable groomed. Women can be cultivating a grievance for weeks and then suddenly without warning accuse, 'What did you mean by what you said last Thursday?'

    Women are more social than men: they will remember to send postcards from abroad, and they remember birthdays. They all have rituals with flowers for the hostess in place and they know exactly who owes whom in terms of companies, etc. This type has enormous significance for them.
    According to an article in February in the U.S. Psykologers journal women's sense of social manners is why the other women who commit social errors are punished ruthlessly. For them, most important of all is the flock wellbeing - not individuals.

    It works out better in the long-run that social niceties do not mean quite so much for us men. It is cold on the top, but the prospects are excellent. Most women appreciate the heat higher. Therefore, they are much better as stewards than as trusted senior managers. The toughest stewards, I have met, were women. They found that Løvind of fairness and justice in the group.

    Most female executives are appointed by men, and men of course think that women with men's behavior is valid. Thank you for a combination: Women's Social kompromisløshed coupled with Men's quest. It is frightening when such a ramler together. Just look at Birthe Ronn Hornbech and Karen Jespersen. It is proven that it is men's fault of course, that we now have female governors, which creates fear and insecurity throughout the EU."

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    Re: EU Study: Women Make Worse Bosses

    Shit!!!!
    I could have told you that!
    Do you really think someone can actually run a business off emotion?


     
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    Re: EU Study: Women Make Worse Bosses

    To be sure some of the best bosses that I have ever had were female. But almost everyone I know, both male and female, will tell you that they prefer working for a man. Women have a tendency to take just about everything personaly, and generaly speaking, have a harder time making a decision.
    Also, it's one thing to have an asswhole male boss, you can always ask him to step outside. Also because of social restraints, men will only go so far in abusing thier employees. Men also tend to respect personal boundries at work a little better too.
    But I tell you from personal experience, you have not had a realy bad boss untill you have had a bad female boss. If a female boss doesn't like you its not enough just to try to get you fired. She has to ruin your whole life. I know that this sounds realy misogynistic and I am not a misogynist but if you are working for an insecure woman who is threatened by you she will stop at nothing to damage you in every way. Slander is the favored wepon of the insecure female boss. She will attack your reputation at every turn and sabatoge your work. Men who engage in this type of behavior are derided as hapless and weak-and they are. Women, however can hide behind the cloak of victimhood and perceved female virtue and can get away with just about anything and still come up smelling like roses. A psycho female boss knows this and will always use it to her advantage. Women can be down right dangerous to work for for this very reason.
    Sorry ladies I don't mean to negative rant like this but I feel that what I say is absolutely true.



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    Re: EU Study: Women Make Worse Bosses

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    To be sure some of the best bosses that I have ever had were female. But almost everyone I know, both male and female, will tell you that they prefer working for a man. Women have a tendency to take just about everything personaly, and generaly speaking, have a harder time making a decision.
    Also, it's one thing to have an asswhole male boss, you can always ask him to step outside. Also because of social restraints, men will only go so far in abusing thier employees. Men also tend to respect personal boundries at work a little better too.
    But I tell you from personal experience, you have not had a realy bad boss untill you have had a bad female boss. If a female boss doesn't like you its not enough just to try to get you fired. She has to ruin your whole life. I know that this sounds realy misogynistic and I am not a misogynist but if you are working for an insecure woman who is threatened by you she will stop at nothing to damage you in every way. Slander is the favored wepon of the insecure female boss. She will attack your reputation at every turn and sabatoge your work. Men who engage in this type of behavior are derided as hapless and weak-and they are. Women, however can hide behind the cloak of victimhood and perceved female virtue and can get away with just about anything and still come up smelling like roses. A psycho female boss knows this and will always use it to her advantage. Women can be down right dangerous to work for for this very reason.
    Sorry ladies I don't mean to negative rant like this but I feel that what I say is absolutely true.
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    Rohara, you are not being 'misogynistic' ... you are telling it like it is. I know, I had it happen to me ... especially the slander and sabotage part.
    The only thing you may have missed is the spotting and use of powerful male figures to back them up, if they are exposed for their shenanigans.
    A common comment by my male colleagues was the phrase, "Have you achieved 'target' status yet?"


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    Re: EU Study: Women Make Worse Bosses

    I don't mind working for a female boss - I'm happy with either, as long as both leave me to do my job in peace.

    What I note with female bosses though, is they bully using ties rather than you directly.

    e.g. I had one boss tell my (then) girlfriend that I was having an affair with a fellow female worker. Why? Because I'd threatened to take her to court for unfair dismissal (of my then g/f - not me).

    Anyway, I'd like to know why are the experts running around trying to find politically correct excuses.... reasons for the outcome of this study?

    Woudl they look into it further if a similar one showed male bosses were worse than female bosses?

    Of course not.

    So what's the big deal?



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    You would think that having significant authority could carry you through with some ease.

    You would think that locking people up all day would make for ease of control in the workplace.

    Think Abu Grahib military jail.

    It was run by a female General.



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    Interesting....thanks for the info 3b



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    I don't mind working for a female boss - I'm happy with either, as long as both leave me to do my job in peace.
    I agree. Many women think that men have a problem with a female authority figure and it's a myth. Where most problems come frome is simple differences in communication style.

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    What I note with female bosses though, is they bully using ties rather than you directly.
    Influence, bullying, and abuse by proxy is a very prominant and prefered method of the female psychopath. If you are being manupulated by a practiced one it will take you a while to catch on, if at all.

    Good post



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    I dont mind having a black or latina female boss, but it seems to me the white ones are hell on wheels


     
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    I've never had a female boss but I'm sure their bigger assholes then a male boss!


     
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    I don't mind working for a female boss - I'm happy with either, as long as both leave me to do my job in peace.
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    I agree. Many women think that men have a problem with a female authority figure and it's a myth. Where most problems come frome is simple differences in communication style.
    Yes, it is a myth.

    Many women in authoritative roles have a sexist preconception that men automatically resist this power structure. The fact is, many men know that women in management hold all usual power such a position affords them, but also all the power a woman holds over a man, unlike a male boss. If things go awry in the workplace, which sex could unleash the most devastion if they so chose?



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    I had a female boss once who was downright *evil*
    I wish I had my female boss during my apprenticeship....oh she was a beautiful one....



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    The best and worse bosses I ever had were women. After #1, the worse ones were all feminists or feminized men. Wonder why I didn't like them...

    The best was Dottie (Dorothy). She was the business owner's wife and was great at communication to distribute to the managers what the owner wanted. She knew how to relay information. She was 70, old school, respectful, knowing the managers were entrusted with more than just authority over employees. Not a speck of feminism or political correctness in that woman. Someone warned her that unless she became PC and modern, she would go out of business. She replied she didn't care about the consequences, that her standards were more important than the dollar. Now why can't females today do that? Oh that's right, because they divorced the father of their kids and now has to work a job while strangers raise their kids. Morons...

    Dottie is now 89, retired. Her husband is 94! They sold their biz to one manager about ten years ago for a million more than they bought it for. I respect her use of tact, without dishonesty or half-truths.

    The worst boss feminist pig/liar/PC bitch/!@#$ would take pages to describe. I won't start in this thread. I would laugh myself silly summarizing her bozo feminism!


     
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    Yes, it is a myth.

    Many women in authoritative roles have a sexist preconception that men automatically resist this power structure. The fact is, many men know that women in management hold all usual power such a position affords them, but also all the power a woman holds over a man, unlike a male boss. If things go awry in the workplace, which sex could unleash the most devastion if they so chose?
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    When I look back on it, every dragon lady I had for a boss, and even some who were just jockeying for position, got forced to quit or retire earlier than anticipated.


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    Hell Yes,
    I can personally agree with that study.
    I have written about my experiences at the paper printing place where I was an electrical technician, in other places on this site.

    Maybe these were just the wrong women, to be in authority, in an industrial situation.
    Reason I say that, is because there were other women working there that I got on really well with, even under pressure and there was a LOT of that, especially at print time.

    I have never been screamed at, verbally abused (personally) like that since.
    Boy, am I glad they got the arse from there.

    I was there about 2 weeks back, oddly enough, hooking up some new metering gear (the power had to be shut down, in between print times to do it) and the staff were an absolute sea-change from what I was expecting, I even got coffee and some choccy biscuits while I was doing the work.

    "The witches are dead" is what one person said to me, who am I to disagree with that.


     
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