enough already - let them be

yesterday's Hero · #1 29th-May-2008

if as a parent you are unable to cope with kids being kids - and resort Government sanctioned and subsidised drugging of them, then you do not deserve to be able to reproduce.

If your kids are are more of an out of control fashion accessory rather than a joy to your life then why did you have them

i absolutely despise these types of people that do this to children.

Toddlers prescribed Ritalin

May 30, 2008 12:34am

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CHILDREN as young as two years old are being prescribed the drug Ritalin after being diagnosed with ADHD.

Figures obtained by The Daily Telegraph show 311 children in NSW aged five and under depend on the controversial medication.

Fifty eight four-year-olds and 13 three-year-olds depend on the medication which is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), Health Department figures reveal.

The figures show that nationally, doctors have prescribed ADHD drugs to five toddlers aged only two, despite the possible side effects.

The figures cover prescriptions subsidised under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, the newspaper reports.

The federal Department of Health said prescriptions paid for without Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme subsidies are "a significant portion of the total scripts".

Wallet · #2 29th-May-2008

I would say 99%+ of kids do not need to be on it. Naturally 99% of kids on it are boys.....

It is over prescribed and the easy way out for teachers and mostly single mothers.

Maybe it is all the junk food, fast food, video games, watching tv and being on the computer instead of playing outside like it was in my days. We were never allowed in the house unless it was cold or a down pour. Gawd help us if we were ha ha.

We always found something to do and so did the neighbourhood kids, hell we played road hockey all the time, year round or whatever. We were never allowed to watch tv inside if it was nice and not dark out. This was in the 70's mind you. Of course mum was home, Dad worked, Mum cooked. Maybe fast food once a month like KFC or chinese and maybe a few times a year McPukes. Not like kids nowadays though...

We did sports, rode bikes, went fishing, exploring and now they wonder why so many kids are 'obese'.....

I swear this Ritalin epidemic is a leftist feminist 'invention'.........

FFFF · #3 29th-May-2008

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Originally Posted by yesterday's Hero

if as a parent you are unable to cope with kids being kids - and resort Government sanctioned and subsidised drugging of them, then you do not deserve to be able to reproduce.

If your kids are are more of an out of control fashion accessory rather than a joy to your life then why did you have them

i absolutely despise these types of people that do this to children.

YH, you are talking my language bro!!

Nothing pisses me off more than parents who expect to have sanitisied and fully house-trained and socially adept mini-adults to pop out as of a right. Then expect everyone else to sort them out and cure their "behavioural difficulties"..

Raising kids is a full time job and parents are best suited for it, not the godamn child-abusing statists who treat them like cattle in a factory farm..

If men were able to exert their natural authority as family heads, rather than cowering under the divorce etc. threats from the matriachal head, the "problems" would be far less (as can be seen from history when we managed to develop society without the need for drugging kids etc!)

**bachelor tom** · #4 29th-May-2008

What happened to "social construction" of gender? If it really works we shouldn't need drugs to change boys into girls

**KellyMac** · #5 29th-May-2008

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The Delinquents

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A Spate Of Rhino Killings

South Africa

One of the delinquents was this elephant, named Tom Thumb. (CBS)

(CBS) South Africa's wildlife parks are a great success story. They've brought many animals back from the brink of extinction, and millions of tourist dollars from all over the world.

But as Bob Simon first reported in 1999, there's a problem lurking in the South African bush. Game rangers discovered that a new group of juvenile delinquents has been attacking and killing the white rhinoceros, the rhino they've spent years protecting.

In South Africa's Pilanesberg Park, rhinos were thriving until an unknown killer began stalking them. Thirty-nine rhinos, 10 percent of the population in the park, were killed.

The killings clearly weren't the work of poachers. The rhinos' horns hadn't been touched. The park rangers began conducting an investigation. Their first findings led them to believe that if they were to round up the usual suspects, they'd need a pretty large holding pen.

That's because the prime suspects were not humans, but elephants. It turned out that young male elephants were behind the murders of Pilanesberg's rhinos.
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Why would they do it? Well, like juvenile delinquents, they had grown up without role models.

"I think everyone needs a role model, and these elephants that left the herd had no role model and no idea of what appropriate elephant behavior was," said Gus van Dyk, Pilanesberg Park's field ecologist.

The problem goes back 20 years to South Africa's largest conservation area, Kruger National Park. Kruger had too many elephants. In those days there was no way to relocate these large adults. So researchers decided to kill the adults and save the children, who were more easily transported to other parks.

The government veterinarian who originally approved the relocations, Dr. Hym Ebedes, said it was a good idea. He said that he considered the possibility that the young elephants might not adjust well, but that there was no other option.

The intentions may have been good but the program created a whole generation of traumatized orphans thrown together without any adults to teach them how to behave.

Years later those lonely orphans developed into troubled teen-agers. That's when the killings at Pilanesberg Park began. Like a police departmenfacing a crime wave, the rangers photographed the murder scenes and put together rap sheets on the prime suspects, giving them each names.

One of the suspects was named Tom Thumb. "We've identified that Tom Thumb was in an area where coincidentally...a rhino mortality took place," Van Dyk said. Tom Thumb was put under surveillance, but other elephants were caught red handed.

In addition to killing rhinos, they acted aggressively toward tourist vehicles. Researchers eventually decided to kill five of the elephants. They may have been juvenile delinquents but there's no reform school for elephants.

Then a teen-age elephant named Mafuta began causing trouble for Jock McMillan, who cares for elephants at a private game reserve near the park. McMillan didn't want to shoot the elephant, so he decided to try to provide some discipline. But Mafuta turned the reserve's elephant herd, all of whom were orphans relocated without adults, into a street gang. He became the gang leader.

"The source of the problem is basically human beings doing something which turned out to be wrong," McMillan said. "On that basis we're pretty much obliged to try and solve the problem before taking the drastic steps of shooting the animals."

At that point it seemed there was still time to study the situation, that a real confrontation was several years away. The elephants on his reserve were still too small to attack a rhino.

McMillan followed the elephants constantly to document the rhino attacks. At first the scenes seemed funny enough: One day, Mafuta hosed down a rhino with his trunk.

But the attacks became more violent. At one point Mafuta spent seven hours stubbornly going after a group of rhinos. When McMillan briefly managed to distract the elephant, the rhinos ran for cover. But when Mafuta saw what had happened, he charged off in a rage. Several weeks later he attacked one of the same rhinos again.

"This time he actually got on top of her and pushed her down, knelt on her, went around the back and kicked her," McMillan said. After another attack, he decided to shoot Mafuta.

"I wasn't happy," said McMillan. "I realized it had to be done, but because I had been working rather closely with the animal, you form emotional attachments."

The people at Pilanesberg also wanted to avoid killing the delinquents. As they studied the elephants, a pattern began to emerge. The elephants picking on the rhinos were suffering from an excess of testosterone. The solution turned out to be the biggest Big Brother program in the world.

The rangers began looking for role models to keep the youngsters from mating at an early age when they couldn't handle those raging hormones. They decided to bring in some even larger bull elephants.

In 1998, the rangers at Kruger National Park brought in some of these big elephants, in specially designed trucks. No one had ever tried to move elephants that large before.
The bigger, older elephants established a new hierarchy, in part by sparring with the younger elephants to discourage them from being sexually active. That means less testosterone, and that's good news for the rhinos.

Van Dyk compared it to a group of teen-agers who have been acting up who are confronted by their fathers all of a sudden.

The Pilanesberg juveniles seem to be reading the message loud and clear. Since the big bulls arrived, not one rhino has been killed.

Even Tom Thumb has calmed down. He stopped harassing the rhinos, and the rangers hope that when he finally gets a chance to mate, he'll be a new man.

Said Van Dyk: "When he gets back to that position, hopefully he's had time to reflect on his misspent youth and think, 'Well I'm big enough to cope with these females, and rhinos are just not an option anymore.'" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/...in226894.shtml

bobx23456 · #6 29th-May-2008

Even among elephants, fathers know best.

A generation raised by mothers goes wrong.

Blessings

Bob

yesterday's Hero · #7 30th-May-2008

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Originally Posted by Wallet

I would say 99%+ of kids do not need to be on it. Naturally 99% of kids on it are boys.....

It is over prescribed and the easy way out for teachers and mostly single mothers.

Maybe it is all the junk food, fast food, video games, watching tv and being on the computer instead of playing outside like it was in my days. We were never allowed in the house unless it was cold or a down pour. Gawd help us if we were ha ha.

We always found something to do and so did the neighbourhood kids, hell we played road hockey all the time, year round or whatever. We were never allowed to watch tv inside if it was nice and not dark out. This was in the 70's mind you. Of course mum was home, Dad worked, Mum cooked. Maybe fast food once a month like KFC or chinese and maybe a few times a year McPukes. Not like kids nowadays though...

We did sports, rode bikes, went fishing, exploring and now they wonder why so many kids are 'obese'.....

I swear this Ritalin epidemic is a leftist feminist 'invention'.........

By doing this and allowing kids to play in the dirt it also has the benefit of developing their immune systems

kids in western society today are more sickly than ever and prone to health issues

**knight-errant** · #8 30th-May-2008

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Originally Posted by yesterday's Hero

By doing this and allowing kids to play in the dirt it also has the benefit of developing their immune systems

kids in western society today are more sickly than ever and prone to health issues

I have a cousin whose mother was very very protective and didn't let her get dirty ever, was constantly washing and wiping. My grandmother would watch this and say "too clean". The wisdom of a previous generation.

FFFF · #9 30th-May-2008

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Originally Posted by knight-errant

I have a cousin who's mother was very very protective and didn't let her get dirty ever, was constantly washing and wiping. My grandmother would watch this and say "too clean". The wisdom of a previous generation.

aye.. I can vouch for that! My filthy habits have created an immune system that seems impervious to everything women, farm animals and soldiers on leave can possible spread by close personal contact..

I was always being told as a kid at school that drinking untreated milk striaght from the cow would cause me to catch allsorts, later research with cats (which as we know are humans but lazier in most cases) showed how effective that single panacea is at quadrupling immune system responses.

I am the only know survivor of my first wifes "cooking"..

Raw meat, fish, eggs, chicken..

Beer, ashtray contents and kebabs vomitted through 4 different stomachs back into the bucket..

Makes no difference!!

shaazam · #10 31st-May-2008

Men age like fine wine
Feminists age like Milk

if well handled they can be turned into a fine cheese

but if left alone