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    Actress Jaime Winstone lifts the lid on the little-known oropharyngeal cancer, caused by the Human Papillomavirus (HPV) which can be caught through having oral sex.

    Darren was diagnosed with oropharyngeal cancer, a rare form of mouth cancer, at the age of only 31. But that wasn't the only shocking news that he had to deal with. Most oral cancers are caused by smoking or drinking, but Darren's was caused by the Human Papillomavirus (HPV), which is sexually transmitted. Darren had caught it through having oral sex. New research shows that there has been a dramatic increase in the number of HPV-related oral cancers amongst young people.

    Jaime Winstone sets out to discover why the statistics are rising and whether anything can be done to stop this trend. Sadly, she has an intimate relationship with cancer - as filming began, her close friend Paul died from pancreatic cancer aged only 26. Whilst his cancer wasn't preventable, Darren's was.

    HPV is recognised as the cause of cervical cancer in women and so, two years ago, the government introduced a national vaccination programme for teenage girls. But if a vaccine exists, why isn't it also given to boys to protect them from developing HPV-related cancers? Although this oral cancer is still relatively rare, the HP virus is common, with an estimated 80 per cent of adults having it, without any symptoms, during their lives.

    Jaime's journey takes her to meet Dr Margaret Stanley, an expert on HPV and Professor Hisham Mehanna, a head and neck specialist at University Hospital, Coventry whose research has shown an increase in HPV-related oral cancers. Jaime talks to teenage boys about what they know of HPV and to teenage girls about why they are reluctant to get the freely available vaccine, before confronting the Department of Health over why they currently don't vaccinate boys as well as girls on the NHS.
    Part of the Dangerous Pleasures season on BBC Three.


    I was actually expecting to hear how it's all boys' own fault that they're missing out on essential vaccines that could save them from cancer. Surprisingly, it wasn't.

    Instead, a young lady discusses the loss of a friend of hers who DJ'd for a living. While he died of colon cancer, she recognised that boys were being ignored for the HPV jab. She visits a young couple with a daughter and a son and asks how they feel about the fact their son is discriminated against. This was actually a pretty eye-opening documentary and I recommend watching it for anyone in the UK (or with a good proxy).
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    Re: UK-Only - Is oral sex safe? A documentary about men missing out on essential vacc

    Karl,
    After all of the whinging and shit over the funding of the drugs that would stamp this out for wimmin, it seems cold comfort that this should show up in men.
    Either wimmin haven't been immunised (or they are lying) or this thing just doesn't work.
    We haven't heard a lot about this vaccine over here, mind you not that many wimmin bothered to get it, even though it was FREE.

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    Re: UK-Only - Is oral sex safe? A documentary about men missing out on essential vacc

    Same here, thy won't offer it boys for free (it costs £300-£400 for a boy to be immunized) while girls get it for free.. Assuming as many boys ignored the offer of a free vacine as do girls, they could do both groups (of willing folks) for free simply by taking up the unused ones from girls.
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    Oral sex can boost cancer risk?

    Yes, oral sex is sex, and it can boost cancer risk

    Yes, oral sex is sex, and it can boost cancer risk – The Chart - CNN.com Blogs

    Here's a crucial message for teens: Oral sex carries many of the same risks as vaginal sex, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of oral cancers in America in people under age 50.

    "Adolescents don’t think oral sex is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 'sex.'"

    Halpern-Felsher and other researchers presented the latest information about the risks of contracting an HPV infection Sunday at the American Association for the Advancement of Science annual meeting.

    The latest data suggest that 64% of oropharynx cancers - growing in the middle part of the throat - in the United States are caused by HPV, which is more than tobacco causes, said Maura Gillison of Ohio State University. And as the number of partners on whom you have performed oral sex goes up, the risk of oropharnyx cancer goes up.

    About 37,000 people per year receive a diagnosis of oral cancer, according to the Oral Cancer Foundation.

    Just about everyone has had at least one of the 130 strains of HPV. The vaccines currently available, Gardasil and Cervarix, only protect against a few of them. But not all of the strains are cancer-causing. Certain types cause warts on the hands and feet that are benign.

    About 5% of cancers worldwide are caused by HPV, and some turn up in some surprising places. A University of Washington study found that some men carry HPV 26 under their fingernails, which can lead to a form of cancer called digital squamous cell carcinoma. Proper hand-washing can help prevent this from happening, said Dr. Diane Harper, leading HPV researcher at the University of Missouri in Kansas City.

    But this isn't nearly as common as HPV causing cancer in other areas of the body, such as the oral cavity and the cervix.

    In the countries that have cervical cancer screening, the prevalence of cervical cancer is five times lower than in other countries, indicating that the testing is effective, Harper said.

    Why HPV causes cancer in some people and not others is still mysterious. Studies of the cervix have found that 70% of infections resolve by themselves within one year, and 90% within two years. It's that remaining 10% that actually turn into more serious infections, and 5% lead to treatable precancerous lesions, Harper said.

    Two well-established mechanisms of prevention in terms of sexually transmitted HPV are condom usage and circumcision, although neither completely eliminates the risk, Harper said.

    A large ongoing study called HITCH is examining questions of HPV transmission and infection in greater detail. So far, it's found that couples can "ping-pong" HPV back and forth to each other, which is one reason that the virus may take so long to clear naturally.

    As for getting HPV from kissing, that's not clear, and there isn't enough data to say anything about it yet, Harper said.

    It's very hard to get teens to listen to abstinence messages about oral sex, or to get them to use any kind of barrier method for these behaviors, Halpern-Felsher said. And since any risk factor under 50% sounds low to a very young person, throwing these precise statistics at them most likely won't make a difference.

    But parents should have honest conversations with their teenagers about oral sex, Halpern-Felsher said. Tell them that the consequences of HPV may not happen right away, and while the risks may not be huge, they are significant. Potential long-term outcomes of cancer are quite concerning.
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    Re: Oral sex can boost cancer risk?

    That's a bit of a blow.

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    That's a bit of a blow.

    Before you know it, breathing fresh air will give you heart cancer!

    I see it as absurd propaganda and the beginning of a scheme to enact anti sex laws.
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    Re: Oral sex can boost cancer risk?

    I spoke about this a couple of weeks back... you should use the search menu now and then. It'll save you pasting it again and again.
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    Re: UK-Only - Is oral sex safe? A documentary about men missing out on essential vacc

    If the drug/vaccine works for both boy's or girls,it would make more financial sense to give it to the boy's as there are less of them per population thus saving money and saving lives of both genders,the only group still at risk are lesbian's ?

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    ...the only group still at risk are lesbian's ?
    which I understand stands at about 2% of the population...
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    If the drug/vaccine works for both boy's or girls,it would make more financial sense to give it to the boy's as there are less of them per population thus saving money and saving lives of both genders,the only group still at risk are lesbian's ?
    But how does that prevent girls from getting it due to more natural causes? Cervical cancer isn't caused by oral sex in the main.

    As for 'catching' cancer through oral sex, I never knew you could 'catch' cancer. On asking my girls about the vaccination (they're 19 and 21) neither of them got it in the end and neither they or I have heard of HPV. It's something I will need to look at discussing with the boys father fairly soon (eldest lad is 13 this year).

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    As for getting HPV from kissing, that's not clear, and there isn't enough data to say anything about it yet, Harper said.

    Tell [children] that the consequences of HPV may not happen right away, and while the risks may not be huge, they are significant. Potential long-term outcomes of cancer are quite concerning.
    Sure, let's stop kissing our lover, stop pleasuring them or being pleasured by them, wrap ourselves in a body-condom and wear gas masks to avoid any chance of infection from other people. That will give us all lovely long lives, right?

    Precautions make sense but if abstinence is going to reduce the quality of life, then it is important to balance the loss of enjoyment with the risk of harm.

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    Precautions make sense but if abstinence is going to reduce the quality of life, then it is important to balance the loss of enjoyment with the risk of harm.
    What those petty tyrants are doing is trying to regulate sex out of existence. The name of this sick game is "population control".
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    Re: UK-Only - Is oral sex safe? A documentary about men missing out on essential vacc

    I think this is a fearmongering article. I'd take it with a grain of salt.
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    Re: UK-Only - Is oral sex safe? A documentary about men missing out on essential vacc

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    ill remember that next time I spread the meat curtains and polish the diamond while chainsmoking menthols and taking bars.
    And now in English?

    I followed you about as far as meat curtains...
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    ill remember that next time I spread the meat curtains and polish the diamond while chainsmoking menthols and taking bars.
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    Sort of incorrect. I won't be able to do that for about nine months.

    As an aside, I did understand what you tried to say.
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