Link to the article.


I would use a oral contraceptive if it's been proven to be safe and reliable.

This is great. I just have two thoughts here. One, is it as effective as the female contraceptives? Two, is it safer than all the hormonal crap that women have for contraceptives?

One, don't care. Two, don't care. And three, don't really care what women's thoughts are on it.

As long as it puts men's reproductive chioces where they belong, in their own hands, I am all for it and could care less what the whos, whats, when, and wheres are in respects to women.

Being better or worse than womens' is nothing more than female-centric garbage. If it's GOOD FOR MEN and EFFECTIVE FOR MEN, then great.

TMOTS

Hmm. Perhaps it would help if you actually read what I said.

I'm concerned about the effectiveness - if you, as a man, are taking a contraceptive, don't you want to make sure it is as effective as that of the pill or various other female contraceptives, or do you hope to just randomly father children, because if you're not concerned about the efficacy of it then there's no point in taking it.

I'm also concerned about the safety, which I would think that you would be very concerned about, if you are the one taking it. Female contraceptives have a great many side effects. I find it rather difficult to imagine that male versions would not, especially being brand spanking new.

WTF?? Do you honestly believe your own crap? As with any new meds you might take, those are things to be very concerned about - no matter who the hell you are.

Theres only one option for the gent who wants to be in full control, and thats the good old rubber johnny..

I would not trust any woman to have a clue about contraception, they are fucking thick, to say the least, as well as deliberately dishonest about it..

The best option is always going to be "avoid the bitches"..

If you must knob them, and you dont think they are suitable for breeding purposes but only fit for a plonking, then the rubber johnny is a proven stalwart..

I dont trust pills and such crap..

Side-effects etc are risky..

Plus, so many women are diseased that you really have to ask yourself if you want to have "skin on skin" with the cess pits..

Undoubtedly if an effective male pill/sperm blocker can be devised, an enthusiastic and sustainable market will await.

Furthermore, such a breakthrough will ensure men have a reproductive choice which is so long overdue.

I've laughed at how many women have said men are too irresponsible, and cannot be trusted to take a pill. That's rich coming from women, who millions of them yearly systematically defraud men into believing they are taking the pill, when they aren't.

How could any man be irresponsible enough to avoid just merely ingesting a pill which would circumvent a lifetime of unwanted commitment?

Men have everything to gain from a contraceptive pill. For millions of women, well, they'll have to discard with selfish tradition, and "actually" consult their partners regarding having a child. An alien concept to many women I know, but maybe women ridiculing the idea, hides a fear of being unable to have absolute control over what has historically been a rather lucrative venture for them.

quote:
With condoms and vasectomies, men take responsibility for a third of contraception in the United States. But health officials would like to see that figure grow.

"Just imagine if they had another non-permanent option," said Elaine Lissner, director of the nonprofit Male Contraception Information Project.
"You'll never have all men interested" in new contraceptive methods, Lissner said. "But attitudes have really changed — studies consistently show a majority of men would consider it."

"Some men are quite desperate for better control over their fertility," said Kirsten Thompson, director of the International Male Contraception Coalition. "They're looking for something they can really count on."


Do we always have to have women speaking for us in the media?

Something I think about....

Reproduction is the holy grail b/c women have complete power. So will a pill for men be made available... I wonder.

If a pill is made available and many men are quite interested in taking it, there would be very few "oops honey, i'm pregnant" conversations. Right? Women will have to wait until men are ready.

Now if you look at it from the state wanting complete control over the people, you will find that women are completely depended on the state, which then gives the state more power, right?

Since women have control for reproduction and the government supports this... how much would the government lose....

How many abortions are performed a year? How much money goes into that industry?
How many state programs and agencies are created? How much money?
The whole child support industry which brings in how much money?
You have welfare programs, housing programs, daycare programs etc etc
Everything is connected and the list is a mile long.

Now if the pill is made available, how much money will be lost?
Yes, they will get money from the sales but for all the extras were created, they will lose.
They will lose money and power.

Actually I do, thanks for asking.

All I ment was that drawing a coellation between better or worse than WOMENS is of no concern to me. If it is good for men, then I am for it. Make more sense?

selkie said:

"Reproduction is the holy grail b/c women have complete power. So will a pill for men be made available... I wonder."

Exactly. This is the type of 'responsibility' that the femikooks and many women in general DO NOT WANT MEN TO "take/have". It levels the playing field and gives the reproductive choices of men TO men.

"If a pill is made available and many men are quite interested in taking it, there would be very few "oops honey, i'm pregnant" conversations. Right? Women will have to wait until men are ready."

Again. This levels the playing field. A woman AND THE MAN will have to decide TOGETHER when to have a child. It will no longer be HER DESIRE and HER CHOICE as to when. This is a good thing. A concious CHOICE will have to be made by THE TWO INVOLVED.

In all actuality, this should be looked at as a good thing from the femi's too! This will most likely lower the 'deadbeat dad' levels because men will not be 'shurking their responsibilities'... right?


TMOTS

Ah, but that was where you misunderstand my meaning. Female birth control (the one that's been around for years now) being what it is, there are lots of hormones and even more side effects to go along. It seems to me as though if we are to look at new birth controls, no matter who they are directed at, we should look at the current track record of the medical industry.

My first thought is that I seriously doubt that it will be any safer just because it's being made for men. As with most any new meds that they drag out, I am highly skeptical - maybe not of efficacy, although occasionally that is a concern, but of side effects that may occur.

Every time they roll out a new female birth control option, my question is always, yes, but what of the side effects? This is merely based on the track record.

Not only do I think that the side effects of female birth control should be reduce, I remain skeptical that the male versions will be without some of the same negative effects.

Fair enough... I indeed misinterpret your statements.

TMOTS