suicide is a sign of pathologic depression and a loss of hope and it is better such folk be treated by competent medics It seems to have gone past the point of a friendly chat and a pat on the back to save him

Several people with sound hearts and concern are considering 'taking steps'.

What are the issues against that they are considering?

I have worked for two suicide prevention hotlines in the course of my life. To this day, I remember some of the training I took (always take the threat seriously is The Prime Directive). We even had access to a local psychiatric hospital's "mobile crisis intervention unit" (what we called "the flying squad").

This was before the advent of the Internet, so telephone calls were the
primary way of reaching out for help. My experience is all I can share, and none of us relied on talk per se. Professional intervention was the order of the day. I remember three of my colleagues keeping a fellow on the line long enough to piece together several landmarks with which to guide the police and ambulance.

Are there no crisis intervention or suicide prevention hotlines with which to consult in this matter? Nothing in the phone book or on a search engine?

I think you have a bona fide emergency that warrants direct intervention, and time is of the supreme essence.

I think you have a bona fide emergency that warrants direct intervention, and time is of the supreme essence. bababob

Thanks Bob. You make that very clear.

I know that the chap is reading this.

I want him to see that people care for him and are prepared to listen to skilled, experienced men like you.

I have great respect for this man's Integrity and autonomy, his decisions and wishes; but a life is at stake and only live men have Integrity and autonomy.

What are the issues against that they are considering? Jools

Jools, we want YOUR thinking about the pros and cons.

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Jools, we want YOUR thinking about the pros and cons.

My thinking? I don't think I can help. I was just wondering what others are doing.

Whomever you are, if you need someone (yes, another) to talk to, I am here... just give me a blip.

TMOTS

I can help facilitate the distribution of your message, but I cannot (and won't) stand idly by with the knowledge that you are taking your life.

Who is this person and what are his problems?

I too was on the verge of suicide a few years ago. The thing about times like that is that you just don't want to start over again. People tell you "things will get better" but you know that and don't need to hear it from others. Your main concern is starting over again, you lose the desire to start over again. Starting over gets harder and harder the older you get.

Well, that's my experience and I am still here. Not sure how that would help anyone else but it is all I can offer without knowing more.

I've considered suicide in darker times... the two thoughts that kept me from it were:

All the people who were wronging me were going to get away with it scot-free, no retribution possible.

As little as we can care for our lives at times, there are so many people you'd never think of who would be gravely affected by your suicide.

Don't do it, it's the easy way out, and men don't take the easy way out. Rage against the dying of the light.


On the other hand... we're all gonna die. I'm gonna die, Percy is gonna die, the Pope is gonna die. So does it really matter how in the grand scheme of things?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Mack

I didnt mention anything like that, but I suppose it is one way that folk will start to sit up and realise that the family courts need to become extinct..

But, no, the fathers movement as it stands is about eternal matrydom, and all the suicides in the world have not made a flying french fuck of difference to the sympathy for fathers..

NO FUCKER GIVES A SHIT!!!

ITS A VICTORY FOR THE FEMIFILTH WHENEVER A MAN TAKES HIS OWN LIFE!!

Things have gotten MUCH worse, over the past few years for fathers, I have recieved solid undeniable evidence of this this very day, but I wont go into detail on it..

I may be in a minority of one, but have dont have a shred of sympathy or respect for folk who take their own lives in the face of the enemy..

Sure, we all feel that way sometimes, but, to actually go ahead and do it is to LET EVERYONE DOWN!!

There are far better things they can do..

But, the MRM is not interested in anything other than self-destructiveness, rather like a fucking self-harmer who wants attention..

No, I dont want to die for my beliefs, but, by fuck, Id like to see the enemy die for theirs!!

Not eaten since 21-6-09. Weight today - 10st 2.8Lb

It seems actions were taken against me by some in AM.

It resulted in two paramedics and three police coming to get me this morning. It reminded me of how many of our Ex’s behave with the authorities; nice one comrades.

I got back home this evening.

The day had some demands which were rather taxiing.

Ultimately though, the process that was initiated by those who chose to act against me - was futile.

They weren’t able to keep me, or affect my intentions in any way and had to let me go; all that was ‘achieved’ was a wasted day and additional aggravation which I can barely afford to address.

The feeing I have is; if people are going to ride my back when I want them to support me; then I must prepare to end this on my own. There will be shit instead of a protest, and nothing of what I believe will be achieved. Since all of that is only the second priority, I still get to escape hell by dying, but they waste my death.

I felt I was confident in my resolve before, but these experiences make it even stronger, and whist people think they’re helping me - they’re not. I do want your help, help to confront misandry more publicly. But unfortunately, we don’t agree on how to fight misandry. Instead of support and integration from those I consider brethren, you will isolate and banish me. ......

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Not eaten since 21-6-09. Weight today - 10st 2.8Lb

It seems actions were taken against me by some in AM.

It resulted in two paramedics and three police coming to get me this morning. It reminded me of how many of our Ex’s behave with the authorities; nice one comrades.

I got back home this evening.

The day had some demands which were rather taxiing.

Ultimately though, the process that was initiated by those who chose to act against me - was futile.

They weren’t able to keep me, or affect my intentions in any way and had to let me go; all that was ‘achieved’ was a wasted day and additional aggravation which I can barely afford to address.

The feeing I have is; if people are going to ride my back when I want them to support me; then I must prepare to end this on my own. There will be shit instead of a protest, and nothing of what I believe will be achieved. Since all of that is only the second priority, I still get to escape hell by dying, but they waste my death.

I felt I was confident in my resolve before, but these experiences make it even stronger, and whist people think they’re helping me - they’re not. I do want your help, help to confront misandry more publicly. But unfortunately, we don’t agree on how to fight misandry. Instead of support and integration from those I consider brethren, you will isolate and banish me. ......

You are pissed off, I guess..

Stay alive. Thats the way to fight this, lots of men have died and it has made no difference, things have not changed.

What do you think we can do?

Apart from suicide, which I strongly DO NOT reccomend, what other ideas do you have?

Could we here assist in some way?

What is your primary concern regards the misandrous world we live in?

PM me if you want.

I've had a particularly shite day too, but I am feeling rather more murderous than suicidal..

Dont let the bastards grind you down!!

"Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals."

Yeah Right.

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"Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals."

Yeah Right.

Be angry with me. I understand it. But how could you expect people like me to know about your intention and do nothing to stop it? Did you read the rest of my signature...?

"Until he extends his circle of compassion to include all living things, man will not himself find peace." The part about having compassion...can you not see why there is motivation to help you heal rather than to see you harm yourself?

Did you really expect us to not give a shit?