Thread: Men and foreplay or another myth goes down....

I don't understand what all that means....what does "ideal script" or "performance script" mean?

Table 1. Men's and Women's Actual and Ideal Duration of Foreplay and
Intercourse

And does it show what the females wants, and perceives the men delivering and vice veras or what the men and women see themselves delivering?

That is to say, the columns, do they show what a female's ideal performance is compared to her actual performance? And the male column likewise.

Or do they show the ideal expected performance they want and what they get from their partner?

The table is very unclear.

Measures
Only the components of the questionnaire that were used in the present study are described here (see Byers & Grenier, 2003; Grenier & Byers, 2001, for a more complete description). A background questionnaire assessed age, relationship status, and education level. Additional background questions such as relationship length were placed at appropriate points throughout the questionnaire booklet.

The Perceptions of Sexual Behaviour Questionnaire was designed for this study to assess participants' ideal and performance scripts, perceptions concerning their partners' ideal scripts, and understanding of the ideal cultural role scripts for each gender. Participants provided the following information in minutes: (a) how long they thought most men and most women would like foreplay and intercourse to last (cultural role script); (b) how long they would like foreplay and intercourse to last (ideal script); (c) how long they thought their partners would like foreplay and intercourse to last (perceptions of partner's ideal script); and (d) the average duration of foreplay and intercourse with their present partner (performance script).
We calculated sexual misperception scores by determining the difference between perceptions of partner's ideal script and the partner's self-reported ideal script for foreplay and intercourse separately. We used the absolute values of the resulting scores for analysis.
We used the Global Measure of Sexual Satisfaction (GMSEX; Lawrance & Byers, 1998) to measure satisfaction with the sexual relationship. Participants responded to the following question: "In general, how would you describe your sexual relationship with your partner?" Respondents then rated their level of sexual satisfaction on five 7-point bipolar scales: very good to very bad, very pleasant to very unpleasant, very positive to very negative, very satisfying to very unsatisfying, and very valuable to worthless. Scores on the GMSEX can range from 5 to 35, with lower scores indicating less sexual satisfaction. Lawrance and Byers (1995, 1998) provided evidence that the GMSEX is significantly correlated with other measures of sexual satisfaction and has a high 3-month test-retest reliability. The internal consistency for the present sample was high ([alpha] = .96 for men, [alpha] = .95 for women).

It is a bloody awful Table. The explantory note is ambiguous. The notes indicate a,b,c,d, but the Table includes e and f, sort of hanging there, grouped together and undifferentiated. I take it that the numbers in brackets are Standard Deviations, in which case the differences between any pair of numbers are virtually negated and any differences are well within and close to 'average'.

I used to teach Masters students. I used to direct research and clear students research. I would never have allowed a table like that. I have my own work published.

Of course, that was back when there were 'standards'.

So, what is the Table 'supposed' to be telling us?

Men and women both 'ideally' want more foreplay time than intercourse time. That seems to be between 18 and 19 minutes.

Men get (or is it give) (or otherwise experience) 2 mins more foreplay time than women get-give-experience. (pesumably with a female student that is kept in the cupboard for half-time cheerleading)

Men seem to want 12% more intercourse time than woman but both get-give-experience (which is it?) half of what they want.

I think the table was ejaculated prematurely.

And the study doesn't indicate any handcuff / rope / blindfold use. That usually extends the time !

Quote from Percy

And the study doesn't indicate any handcuff / rope / blindfold use. That usually extends the time !

Serious research needs to be done on this topic!

To find the essence from this table:
Joe average wants to have 18.10 minutes of foreplay and 18.45 Minutes of intercourse and actually has 13.35 minutes of foreplay and 7.86 Minutes of intercourse.

Jane average wants to have 18.93 minutes of foreplay and 14.34 Minutes of intercourse and actually has 11.25 minutes of foreplay and 7.03 Minutes of intercourse.

From my understanding average Joe and Janes performance must actually be the same. Interesting is that men and women roughly want to have the same amount of foreplay. This is contrary to the popular believe that men are not interested in foreplay and finally that what I wanted to say when I posted this cryptic table....pheeeew