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  • Percy's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    That is chutzpah, Felix, telling me what I 'should have done' when you could not be bothered even to do anything at all. Not even forward them to an MP. Yes, we know the contents well enough, but few here have the writing skills needed to compose the sound arguments that are needed to ram the message home to politicians and others who are not as well versed as you and I.
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  • Percy's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    Percy replied to a thread Men on Strike: in General News
    Typically a working chap in a far less than ideal workplace will either walk away to another place of work, go slow, or sabotage. There are few other options open to him. We see all three in men today in the Society workplace. There are few places to walk away to where the atmosphere is better and t'managment know how to run t'mill.
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  • Percy's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    All mouth and trousers, Felix.
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  • Daveyone's Avatar
    5 Hours Ago
    I can hear thousands of 'Absent' fathers around the world echoing your sentiments, with me at the front of the queue Liam!
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  • Zuberi's Avatar
    6 Hours Ago
    Story here. Excerpt: 'That amounted to interference in the child’s freedom and personal rights, because pharmacological agents induced behavioral changes but failed to educate the child on how to achieve these behavioral changes independently. The child was thus deprived of an essential learning experience to act autonomously and emphatically which “considerably curtails children’s freedom and impairs their personality development”, the NEK criticized. One way or the other, the...
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  • Percy's Avatar
    13 Hours Ago
    Sometimes people ARE out to get you. :)
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  • Marx's Avatar
    17 Hours Ago
    Why? Because feminists enabled the sponge-system, is why. Most feminists are happy to see men financially ruined while women take the majority of money without having lifted a finger to earn even 10% of it - but some, very few indeed, are observant that such ludicrous mechanisms are not only destroying men's goodwill towards women but turning many quite hateful. Feminism promotes misogyny.
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  • Percy's Avatar
    18 Hours Ago
    It is a matter of a few keystrokes for hundreds of MRAs to send copies of these two articles to every MP and Legislator within a thousand miles of where they are sitting. Activism and advocacy can be done by the sick the lame and the not-too-lazy.
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  • julie's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    I assume he thinks deliberate single parenting is when a child stays with one biological parent? I am amazed some women were able to fight for the biological connection and win in the past. Now you will have little hope unless you are a minority culture, but that's soon going to be eliminated. See what I mean Percy, we are worlds away when it comes to activism.I should just move on now that there's good activism and advocacy for men. You and others are terrific at what you do and I have...
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  • Percy's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    We can't simply blame feminists for this, Outdoors. It is an easy to predict issue and due to the Nature of nature. We have lived for tens of thousands of years on a spherical planet where we could always 'move away' for more space. But there had to come a time when the population grew to the extent that moving away only took us closer to someone else and 'space' became less evident and available. That was nature and so is this. Nature has 'Laws' to be discovered. Some have to bite the bum to...
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    1 Day Ago
    Oh, I see. Did I tell you about a lesbian continuously attacking parents cause she felt her tax should not fund schools? You do know this decade is all about men's research too, don't cha? :wow: Perhaps concentrating on oneself is better for the soul Percy, but then concentrating on someone else gives a lot of strength (energy). I accept you no matter what and hope you stay the balanced person you are.
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  • Percy's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    A summary of the extent and effects of Fatherlessness. MRAs would be well advised to open the links, read, andcopy/paste to a file. Bill has done the work for you. http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2013/05/17/the-facts-on-fatherlessness-part-one/
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  • julie's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    With love and respect, I can't accept this as a sound answer. Middle class white folk are the ones who had this war back in the 70's but middle class white folk are not the world in any measurement. Men bitched and moaned the whole time women changed pulling out every reason why the kitchen was a better place for them. OK, so you weren't in the half of the men's movement that did this, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Jumping on the bandwagon that women being lifted up is a cost to men,...
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    1 Day Ago
    Beautiful. I want to say how much I think you are remarkable without sounding condescending (that's the sort of girlfriends I have, lol - pulling up each and encouraging personal growth) - can these words just make the point that I love what you do. I am really happy that you changed from hating men to accepting, listening, understanding and perhaps empathising and of course helping men. ............. People outside of feminism/masculism also talk about children, marriage and roles...
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    1 Day Ago
    It is a view. But restricted soley to 'sexual' value. In a tribe with only 100 people who are likely to die off at 40 y/o it might be a useful measure, but in a complex and advanced human society whose members live twice as long it is so limited in usefulness that only those blinded by the 'looks' criteria can take any comfort or displeasure at prospects. Digging into a shallow mine will get you only Fool's gold. The Ores of Humanity, ie Integrity, Courage, honour, authenticity et al lie far...
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    1 Day Ago
    Ahhh, now (assuming all this to be so) we hear the voice of a woman with a solid foundation who continues to build a sound human being. She does not hold the 'Who I am' as a 'fixed and final', but as a place in time that will move upwards to get even better views of the landscape of the soul. She develops her person, her being, and is open to change and growth. She appears to have a firm grasp of the distinction between singer and song. THIS is what a human being is designed to properly do.
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    1 Day Ago
    Every time a man stands up to a woman ( and may it happen FAR more often if we are to get anywhere) that woman and fifty others will store it away in their heads as a resentment to be used against him. Revenge gets colder the longer she waits and the more she talks to her 'friends' about it. That is the 'cost' of this war that we men did not want.
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  • julie's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    That's funny. In other words someone else raised your children. lol (Gotta love the Irish. Real mellow species) haha Added after 20 minutes:
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  • Percy's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    The only difficulty in claiming this as truth, is that it's not everyone's truth. antimisandry.com http://antimisandry.com/introduce-yourself/my-thoughts-regarding-mra-movement-51633-2.html#ixzz2TfAFUR5z] Jools you cannot qualify truth with irrelevant words like 'everyone's'. Truth does not change by numbers. You may claim as 'someone's truth' that the Moon is made of cheese, but it ain't.
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    1 Day Ago
    Outdoors, society is forced to bend over forwards for the homo lobby. Jools, my OP said nothing about the things you ask me. And 'governments' don't 'fund': Governments take taxpayers money by force and use it against the taxpayer's will on 'research' he has no interest in.
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    1 Day Ago
    I've often wondered what would happen if all MEN across the globe went on strike for a day, a week, a month, a year... What would women do to entice us to get back to work, outside of a 'sex-strike'?
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    This post offends my sensibilities. I've reported it to the admins for review & deletion. :baby:
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    1 Day Ago
    Phew, thank you, Outdoors, for that double-check. It's possible a glitch caused concern.
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  • julie's Avatar
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    Percy, I can't see how gay marriage affects fathers and single heterosexual men? I see single mothers having to give their children to gay couples now as well as just single men. But I don't see the connection to heterosexual men, unless you are talking about financial costs, but then gays work and many have successful businesses IMO. Do you give a thought to the possibility that it will be cheaper for governments to fund research rather than... say... allow gay and transgender men to...
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    Whilst there are plans afoot to exit the Afghan war, a war against Terrorism we are told, but at what cost? The many hundreds of troops lost to cowardly ICD's by a hidden enemy did not stop the Boston outrage, anymore then forbidding law abiding citizens to hold hand- guns would stop another tragedy such as that at Sandy Hook. There seems little we can do if a sole gunman or bomber what's to carry out an atrocity! We witnessed the horror of 9/11 in New York and 7/7 in London as well...
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    1 Day Ago
    I have enough in my life, perhaps too much. :) I honestly thought I could unwind some and read what you and others are up to..... Ho Hum. I am very sorry there's a lot of difference at the moment..... I think our environments are worlds apart at present. Maybe after a bit more work I will be closer. :D
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    Awareness of men's cancers in the public mind is completely swamped by Angelina Jolie's breasts.
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  • Percy's Avatar
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    Deliberate untruth, aimed at deceiving and altering laws to damage ordinary heterosexual men, fathers and families is expected from Feminists, and it has to be acknowledged, from the Homosexual lobby too. Such distortions are just NOT MANLY and shows the MRM just how we can be deceived into supporting the queers just because they are men. http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/eu_shows_how_to_do_a_dodgy_survey The EU's largest-ever survey of hatecrimes and discrimination against LGBT...
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by Incognito on 28th-April-2008 at 08:06 PM
Because AM was off-line I spent a little time over in GWS yesterday. I just wanted to show you something. This answer got 12 thumbs up (2 down). Question was posted by Rio : "Do you wear a label of any kind?" (Talking about feminism): My answer: Rio ,

I gave this answer to another question but feel it applies here as well:

I've been doing some serious researching about men's issues, and the reasons behind the emergence of the MRA movement. It hasn't been easy. Came up against a lot of very angry people. And like the feminism movement, there are a few bad apples in the bunch. It took a lot for me to ignore those bad apples (because instinctively I all I wanted to do was defend against their offensiveness.) But thankfully there were many who had the patience to show me what the underlying issues of the men's movement really are. I credit my psychology professor, as well, for giving me a balanced, scholarly approach to these issues. I'm beginning to see just how ignored men's issues really are in today's society. Do I blame feminism? No. But I think it's going to take women AND men understanding the issues (gaining awareness), and uniting with each other to effect changes.

The problem with modern feminism is that it's interests lie only with women, and unfortunately, that leaves about half of the population out in the cold. These aren't the days where we can't vote, can't go to school, can't get access to birth control, can't get jobs. (At least not here in the US ). In this country, feminism has accomplished great things for women. And I for one am grateful to the people that came before me that fought so hard for these rights that we all enjoy. Feminism, however, is not without it's flaws. The biggest flaw being that men have rights, issues, and concerns that need attention, and there's no one out there who's hearing the call. Is this altogether feminism's fault? No. But one cannot deny that the interests of boys and men are not feminists' domain. Until we unite the sexes and fight together for HUMAN rights, there will continue to be conflict about feminism today and into the future. In my psychology and sociology classes I am finding out that white males are new targets of prejudice in the media. Why? Because it's not politically correct to target women or minorities. What's left? Boys are lagging behind now in school. We've worked so hard to give girls a better education and should be proud of our success. But what about the fact that boys are dropping out at record rates, using drugs, going to jail, committing suicide? And what about affirmative action quotas which are taking jobs away from qualified males and causing reverse discrimination, increasing prejudice against women? Feminism isn't flawless. We've achieved much in this century, particularly here in the US . I think it's time to shift the focus to other areas that need it. Is it right that men get heavier jail sentences than women for crimes like murder? Is it right that society views men as dispensable when it comes to child custody hearings? Is it right that men get penalized for being breadwinners (being away from home supporting their families) when it comes to figuring out who gets custody of the kids? Is it right that the courts almost always side with mothers regardless of the situation?
Is it right that people who make false rape allegations are not held accountable in most cases? Is it right that almost zero resources are available to men who are victims of domestic violence? Is it right that there's a harmful myth in our society that men can't be as good at nurturing children as mothers can be? Is it right that men who apply for teaching positions in early childhood education or daycare provider positions are looked at with suspicion and are often not hired? Is it right that more funding goes to women's medical issues (like breast cancer) when men are dying in large numbers from prostate cancer?

Should we continue to ignore the concerns of men?

What we see in this forum are angry men, yes. Some sad men too. And some women who see that feminism in and of itself is not protecting or promoting equal rights for all. If it were, we'd be fighting just as hard for the rights of men and boys as we are for girls and women.

If I'm going to take a label, I'm going to take two labels: feminist and masculist. Never again am I going to see the world through only one perspective. We're all in this together. Human rights are important to me. It's taken me awhile to realize that men have issues, too. And they are no less important than women's issues. So either I will embrace both labels, or no label at all. I can honestly say I am truly an equalist.


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