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  • Douglas's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    I really don't get the latest decision by the Boy Scouts of America. Most states in the USA have an age of consent of 18, with a fair number having it at 16. Boy Scouts are aged 10 through 17. Depending on the views one accepts, boys sexually mature at around 13 or 14, with their sexual orientation often not settling for five to seven years after that. So why is the Boy Scouts of America even bothering about classifying a boy aged under 18 as heterosexual or homosexual? Homosexual...
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    If you are going to make racist comments, kindly make sure you have a clear context and preferably information to back it up. As someone who lives in the same country as you do, I can both confirm that there is an element of nationalist and racist hatred. However, it is minor and goes both ways, inevitably. I have walked in 'black neighbourhoods' and 'white neighbourhoods' as well as many others and found the vast majority of people friendly, polite and helpful so long as I remain friendly,...
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    Admin message Enough with the anti-cyclist and personal messages, please. Let's get back to the original post and how it relates to misandry or other men's issues, if at all.
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    6 Hours Ago
    nomereape replied to a thread IRS Scumbags! in Chit chat (MAIN)
    His show is mostly satire, so exaggeration and stabbing are very common. This one, though, did take a really serious turn because this appears to be a major scandal and it's not just the IRS; breach of rights by several government organizations. As for me, I don't hold any political affiliation. I think all politicians today are nuts. :)
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  • nomereape's Avatar
    7 Hours Ago
    The video's down but I found another link: VIDEO: Woman racially abuses boy on bus. NOTE Disturbing content | Mail Online And related content: racist woman - YouTube
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    7 Hours Ago
    nomereape replied to a thread IRS Scumbags! in Chit chat (MAIN)
    Women in the media: Jon Stewart - Terrible Boston Marathon Reporting HD; April 22, Daily Show - YouTube
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  • nomereape's Avatar
    7 Hours Ago
    You are right, Rof, in that it's best to stay away from feminized institutions. Harvard is now one of the least intellectually-stimulating college since the infusion of feminist women in to its administration after the Lawrence Summers incident. The University of Cambridge (U.K) suffers a similar fate along with dozens of other universities. The intellectual quality of many universities have dropped so much since the 1970s that it's debatable if we'll ever recover. It isn't worth the ...
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  • nomereape's Avatar
    7 Hours Ago
    Yup, I find this obsession that some people have with tragedy and victim-hood quite sickening. I have come across many such exaggerations in history books! One claimed that 5 million people were enslaved in Ancient Egypt. That is economically impossible since the world population at that time was between 10-15 million. There is no evidence of such large-scale slavery, at all. You'd think if such a high percentage of the population were subject to slavery, it would leave behind some remnants....
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    9 Hours Ago
    The Death of the Boy Scouts by Bill Muehlenberg One way to kill a person is to aim a gun at his head and pullt he trigger. Another way is to sneakily administer slow-working poison, the results of which will be exactly the same. This is true of organisations as well. You can use direct external action to kill off an organisation, or you can work to destroy it from within.
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    11 Hours Ago
    A piddling little galaxy cluster, Yan? Let us have some modesty Sir. A small planet goes a long way. Even Marvin would balk at your analogy. Give it more Deep Thought. :) Statistics on statistics | Churchmouse Campanologist
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    17 Hours Ago
    nomereape replied to a thread IRS Scumbags! in Chit chat (MAIN)
    That's the quality of the women who get injected in to our government systems because of Affirmative Action and other ladders.
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  • nomereape's Avatar
    18 Hours Ago
    Hilarious article. Chock full of nonsense.
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    Take the test: Feminist shenanigans or satire? | AEIdeas
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  • nomereape's Avatar
    19 Hours Ago
    Probably not the best graph for the job. The coloured lines show frequency of distribution, not IQ points. The dotted black line is the male/female ratio. Men are overrepresented from the median to near-genius. It is easy to be mislead because the score variance is higher for males, so the bell curve for males is shorter and fatter than that for females. Tests like these are designed so as to give both sexes an equal average score. Since the male variance is only 10%, male and female IQs...
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  • Percy's Avatar
    21 Hours Ago
    The Boy Scouts is about boys. It is a milieu where boys can BE boys doing the things that helps them grasp Manhood. How do you change the Boy Scouts? You take the 'Boy' out. Excellent article in Mercatornet.
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    21 Hours Ago
    outdoors replied to a thread IRS Scumbags! in Chit chat (MAIN)
    Worker from IRS; "I'm not very good at math" :toofunny:pmslpmsl:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny::toofunny:
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  • outdoors's Avatar
    21 Hours Ago
    She is getting hers from all over the blogosphere. Stardusk and bar bar have both let her have it. Not to mention a lot of other's who see what she is all about. woman moves in the mrm,doesn't like what she sees,attempt's to make it into what she "feels" the way it should be. The backlash against her is also going against Elam just for keeping her around.
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    21 Hours Ago
    Just goes to show the childish nature of the beast.
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    22 Hours Ago
    From here; Kids exposed to suicide of schoolmate more likely to attempt it, study shows | Toronto Star Of course it takes two female suicides to draw attention to this.No mention of the ten boy's who killed themselves compared to these two girl's whatsoever. my comment got through on this one; Needed: New approaches to defuse 'suicide contagion' among teens - Health - CBC News
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  • nomereape's Avatar
    22 Hours Ago
    Racism is often blown out of proportion. It is a postmodernist obsession. Remember the Trayvon Martin case in the U.S.A? The media painted it as a "racist" case. The facts didn't fit because the perpetrator was Hispanic, so they edited the tapes to make him sound like a "White" male. Other news channels suddenly started referring to him as a "White Hispanic". There is always a tendency to paint such things as a "White male" issue. These people are pathetic. Contrary to popular belief,...
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  • outdoors's Avatar
    22 Hours Ago
    That graph makes absolutely no sense to me.
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  • nomereape's Avatar
    23 Hours Ago
    Yup, but those textbooks are shipped to many countries. I've seen them used in the U.K and in Canada too. In addition to all this nonsense, the WS students are fed with Susan Brownmiller's fabricated nonsense. It was Brownmiller who over-exaggerated "war rapes" and put forth the 2% false allegation claims. What do you mean?
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  • Percy's Avatar
    23 Hours Ago
    Yet there are still people on this forum who insist on arguing with me ! Even saying I am WRONG ! Despite my having a brain the size of a small Planet. :)
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  • Douglas's Avatar
    23 Hours Ago
    The specific issue of the Husky dog "obviously" being a rapist (the first 3 minutes of the 15-minute video) is covered in http://antimisandry.com/stupidity/college-s-husky-dog-logo-promotes-rape-says-student-51426.html By the way, I love the clarity of statement and focus in Gogonostop's footer:
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  • Douglas's Avatar
    23 Hours Ago
    I was among the first in the UK to own a mobile telephone (when the looked more like bricks and weighed only slightly less). Yet I have never deliberately kept a mobile phone switched on while driving; I don't insist on breaking up a conversation with someone just to answer another conversation (as though the person I'm talking with MUST be less important than whoever is calling); I don't generally talk on the phone in places like a bus, train, pub, etc.. It's just a phone, for goodness sake....
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    1 Day Ago
    As a simple, fairly short, scholarly investigation of the teachings in Women's Studies (sometimes now called "Gender Studies" to avoid the most obvious criticism) Christine Stolba's work is well worth reading. It is US-centric but still worth perusing by those outside the USA. I recall reading this some time back and realising just what was going on in our universities:
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  • nomereape's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    The female researchers in many universities across the U.K and even in the U.S are indoctrinated to a ridiculous extent. One of the methods is through the indoctrination "Bible", as exposed in Stolba, C. (2002). Lying in a Room of One’s Own: How Women’s Studies Textbooks Miseducate Students. I have noticed that most of the Women's Studies takers are those with below average intelligence — the ones who end up at the lower end of standardized tests; easily fooled, persuaded and turned in to...
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  • nomereape's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Jon Stewart Destroys Obama Over IRS Scandal, 'You've Vindicated Conspiracy Theorists' - YouTube Fun starts at 2:44. Disclaimer: I have no political affiliation nor do I care for politics of this kind.
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    1 Day Ago
    Female rapists. Nope, that doesn't surprise me anymore.
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    Cheers Douglas.. All well here thanks
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    Hey Douglas, happy new year to you too ^^. Yeah I know I haven't been around, but I haven't forgotten about you guys . Just been busy with life. Also, I had a brush with death last Tuesday night: I was taken to the hospital at midnight or so because of vomiting/diarrhea to the max and was told i had a severe case of bacterial Gastroenteritis. Ontop of that, it also caused severe dehydration and it almost killed me. My pulse was so low when we got there, the machine kept running into errors when trying to take it. I even blacked out for a minute or so while taking my bloodpressure. They gave me 2 big bags of saline solution and a bag of antibiotic, in order to start kicking the infection and was there for about 5 hours that night. I'm doing way better now and am back in working order finally. Was really scary o.o. Anyway, thanks for the concern and I should pop in now and then.
  3. Happy new year to you, too. I've always considered your posts to be amongst the best on the site, drawing heavily on statistical evidence and such like.
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    Hello Douglas I've just set up skype user name caliburn51
  5. I cant send you a PM because your inbox is full. Please delete a post and let me know so I can send you one.
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    [Re International Men's Day question]


    Hi Douglass,

    No assistance needed. That website you refer to (IMD Home), one which hasn't been updated is run by a lone Christian man deperately after money for non-IMD activities, and is using IMD to get $$. He is not part of the global IMD network, and has been rejected from it.

    The official global IMD website is the following one, which will be reconstructed over the next few months and be bigger and better: International Men's Day - Home

    So the owners tell me. The owners of the official website can be contacted here - glen[at]themensnetwork.org.uk

    Passerby
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    Thanks for the encouraging reps, Douglas! Appreciate you.
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    If you're going to take on the task of questioning DV shelter policy for the whole UK, Leeds is the best place to start. They have the most funding of all social landlords in the UK, and they are very respected when it comes to forming housing policy for the UK as a whole. Of course they are hobbled by the culture that "most victiims of DV are women", but they take the letter of equality law very seriously, and their procedures are geared toward processing ALL FOI requests seriously.

    The disconnect comes between
    a) the IT guys, the housing officers and the line managers on the one hand, and
    b) the policy formers on the other hand.
    The people who KNOW about this are the former - the people who can change it are the latter. They former guys DAREN'T persuade the latter, but if YOU present the relevant statistics, the latter will listen.

    Keep me posted. So glad I can finaly be of specific use.
    There must be many more of us out there who have inside information like this. We need to create a forum for them, so they can open doors for us.
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    Hi Douglas. Please see my comment on your "What is your council doing about DV shelters - draft FOI letter" thread.
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    Please see my latest post on the "Register-her.com is making an impact" thread. I think we should all send a similar email in to this address.
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    Haha, I love this band.
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    Hi Douglas. Just wanted so say hello and also say you are appreciated in my circle.
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    Thanks for the rep, Doug.
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    Thanks for your advice on my "Divorce court proceeding advice needed"
  16. Thank you very much. It's good to hear that I'm making a positive contribution.
  17. Hi Douglas

    The new thread "Commercial Boycotts" is now available under the "Activism Brainstorming" forum. All suggestions gratefully received

    Thanks

    Oneinthree
  18. Hi Douglas. You mentioned that my recent post on the "activism brainstorming" thread was worth moving to a different one to discuss it further. Sorry but - as you can probably tell - I'm a bit of a noobz and I'm not very well versed on the best way to use this site. How would I move the post (do I just re-post it on another thread), and can you recommend a better thread to stick it on? Thanks.
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    I'm doing great . Sorry for the long delay, I been busy trying to spend a little time with family and packing my stuff cuz I'm moving out on the 22nd to the town my bf lives in ^_^. I cna finally leave this hellhole :P, but also cuz, I'm tired of a lot of shit here at my house. I'm at a dead-end here and I can't rely on most of my family for anything, so yeah, my bf's family has shown they care and go out of their way to do things for me (save my dad, who does a lot for the family so I'm not mad at him). Anyway, I'll prolly start hangin around the forum more when I finally get moved but thanks ^^.

    ~ Raz
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    Well, do you really think I would spend 20 years over there if it was that bad?!

    And on top of that Poles are anglofiles, so we are certaily a "hit" out there, and well paid teacing english jobs are plentiful

    I am begining to think I am going to have to take a possy of AM guys out there to show you whats what
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As the years went by, I tried to reject my feelings about feminism and pay attention to the message feminists were putting across. The more I understood and the more I thought about what they were saying and investigated the claims they made, the more disgusted I became.

Clearly it doesn't take a feminist to be a misandrist but in my perception, a disorganised misandrist is socially harmless, the same way a misogynist is. Feminism gives organisation to misandry and makes it very dangerous to society.
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Equal retirement age is NOT equality

by Douglas on 21st-September-2011 at 03:42 PM
Background

In the UK at the moment there is a lot of justified rage at the way men are continuing to be discriminated against on state pension. Since 1946, there has been deliberate discrimination that set the age that men get a pension from the state at five years higher (65) than women (60) even though women have always lived longer. The gender death gap has increased since 1946, largely due to unequal gender health expenditure that now enables women to have an average life six years longer than men.

The UK government currently have a 'plan' to equalise the ages by 2018 but they have already shown a willingness to back-peddle on this date and have allowed the equalisation of retirement ages to be later and later.

The mathematics of discrimination

I'm now going to explain why women having the same retirement age as men is NOT equality. My proof for this is based on the United Kingdom but I believe much the same result would come from looking at any other country's data.

Working from government statistics (197Kb - Xls) for the year 2008 (the latest year that nationwide statistics are available) it can be calculated that the average age of adult male death is 74 years and six weeks. Similarly, the average age of adult female death is 80 years and four weeks. So, for all but two weeks, the difference is that women outlive men by six years. (If we look at the difference based on average age of death of child and adult, the gap widens to over six years.)

The voting age; the ages of compulsory education; the age when people must start paying taxes and National Insurance (supposedly, state pension fund): all of these have affected the genders the same way for almost everyone alive today.

At a retirement age of 66, the average life expectancy after retirement is:
Males: 8.1 years
Females: 14.1 years

This means that the proportion of adult life spent in retirement is:
Males: 10.9%
Females: 17.6%

Proposal for equality

For equality between the genders to be achieved, there obviously has to be parity on retirement time. Without that, men are paying into a state pension fund where the vast majority of that fund is going to women. To correct this, the genders must have the same chance at retirement. I suggest that to work on absolute time in retirement is not equitable as that could mean men effectively paying in less for the amount they draw; instead the proportion of adult life (not total life) is the way to achieve equality.

Assuming males retire at 66 this gives us:
Males: retire age 66 years, to get 10.9% of adult life in retirement
Females: retire age 71 years, 19 weeks, to get 10.9% of adult life in retirement.

Clearly, the idea of retiring at the same age to get "equality" is very attractive to women and once the United Kingdom accepts this point, it will be hard to move from it. I therefore propose that the only time to campaign for gender equality in retirement age is before 2018, while there is still time to legislate for a continuing increase in women's retirement age until there is equality between the genders.

Updated 14th-June-2012 at 06:56 AM by Douglas

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Legal Matters , Political Issues

Qualified feminsm. ("moderate feminism" "ifeminism" NAFALT "feminist but.." etc.)

by Douglas on 21st-January-2011 at 02:49 PM
In a previous blog, I wrote about the distinction between feminism and women and why many women think they are feminists but are wrong. Here I address those who want to use the feminist label for meaning something good, often re-defining feminism in the process to something like "radical feminism" even though hardly anyone self-identifies as a radical feminist - they just call themselves a feminist.

I believe it is both incorrect and unhelpful for the plight of men to group females and feminists together and blame all women for feminism (and, by implication, not blame any men). That said, I encourage anyone - male and female - to distance themselves from concepts like "feminism" and "feminist" as much as possible unless you believe in female supremacy and have a distaste of men and masculinity.

I encourage you not to call yourself any kind of "feminist" unless you believe in the social illness that is feminism. Claiming that not all feminists are like that (NAFALT) may be true in specific cases but the reality of feminism is seen by its overall actions, not by any one individual.

Among the reasons to avoid the feminist label unless you are an unqualified feminist are:
1) To achieve balance and fairness/egalitarianism in society, we have to undo all that feminism has brought upon our society (note: that is not undoing suffrage, nor equal pay, nor...). To be able to quickly undo everything that can be associated with feminism, it is important not to muddy what feminism is by using the same word for any other purpose.
2) To those aware of the misandry and social damage caused by feminist ideology, there is a psychological effect on someone saying they are feminist. This can be seen all over forums such as Anti-misandry and Stand Your Ground when people say they are a "feminist but..." or a "moderate feminist" or an "ifeminist". It's not that people can't read, nor that they consciously ignore the qualification of feminism. But the emotional effect and the mental association with a damaging policy is made first, before any consideration of what might be before or after "feminist."
3) If someone doesn't believe in at least some of the reality of feminism they have no need to associate with it at all. It is not in any way important that they believe in what feminists have sometimes claimed about feminism: if someone really is aware of what feminism is and disagrees with it, then they should also be aware that it has achieved its ends by lying.
4) I've yet to find any variant of feminism that doesn't centre around the claim of "looking after women's interests." It's true that caring for women is important but why not also for men? Why is a woman's suffering more or less important than a man's? (If people on this site, in campaigning for men's rights and fairness for men, completely ignore women's suffering and do not care about suffering regardless of gender, they will fall into the feminist-conceived gender war.) While being aware of the gender inequalities around us, our campaigns should always focus on the rights of everyone in society, regardless of race, creed, colour or gender. It is gynocentric activities that lead to matters like disaster relief only giving food to women and letting men starve. Only in matters only pertaining to women - such as childbirth - can there be a real reason to concentrate only on women's issues.
In conclusion, unless you really are suffering from having feminist beliefs, don't call yourself any kind of a feminist. If you're not sure, or you think that maybe you are suffering from feminism and are seeking help, then places like the Anti-Misandry web site can be a good place to help you understand about feminism and may be a first step to the cure. In the meantime, if you call yourself a feminist of any colour, you'll have to accept the natural and automatic "anti" levelled on any kind of feminist.
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UK: What is your council doing about DV shelters - draft FOI letter

by Douglas on 8th-December-2010 at 01:20 AM
I have prepared a draft letter for anyone who wants to use it to find out what their local council is doing about shelters. Such shelters are needed for victims of domestic violence and yet there are very few available for men.

Shelters for domestic violence are primarily provided under requirements to care for the homeless (which do not require someone to not to have a home). Although the homeless laws differ in Scotland, the need for men to be included in the help for domestic violence is probably greater there for action than anywhere else and I have made efforts to ensure this letter is applicable there. As far as I know, this letter is appropriate anywhere in the United Kingdom.

As we are not a formal member-based organisation, it is up to you to decide if care about this issue and whether you are willing to find out what your council is doing. For those unfamiliar with the processes involved in such dealings with your local civil servants, this could be useful but if you want to amend the request, or add to it, that is obviously entirely in your hands.

Please note
Before using this letter for your local council, please check the comments - there is no point sending lots of the same letters to the same council if one person writing is willing to share the result. If you are willing to share the result, please provide the name of the council in a comment.
Guidance
This is a draft letter applying for information under the Freedom of Information Act that you can use to try finding out what your council is doing. It specifically seeks information that could reveal gender discrimination and victim gagging. Only send ONE request and only to your own local council. If you don't hear back in about 28 days, send a chasing letter including your original correspondence but still only as a single request.
This is not a political letter. You are not addressing a politician. You do not have a right to anything which is not recorded, such as opinion or 'common knowledge.'
This is not a campaign letter. It is a request for information. Once you have the information, you can then go on to campaign to a politician if appropriate.
Using the draft
Once amended to suit your needs, the letter should be sent to your primary local authority. That's your County Council or Unitary Authority - the people who charge you for Council Tax.
I've laid the draft out as a postal letter. If you want to send it as an e-mail, that is perfectly acceptable so long as you can find an address (you can try an Internet search on " FOI", or simply phone and ask for the e-mail address for the "Freedom of Information Officer"); it is best to make the subject of an e-mail something like "Freedom of Information Act 2000 request [ Ref: AM/Shelter/20101208 ]". Whichever route you take, make sure to include your postal and e-mail address if you are asking for both paper and electronic information - see the text.
Follow up
You might get an acknowledgement, even a delaying letter; don't worry about those until or unless either your or their deadline has passed. When you get a quantitative response, post the response (or a summary of it, if it is on paper) here. If you get an exemption or denial notice and don't feel up to handling it yourself, e-mail me through my profile here.
Editing the Draft
The simplest way to use this letter is to read it through, then copy it into your e-mail program or word processor. You could use all black text exactly as-is. Change or delete all the blue text as appropriate. If sending by post, it should be signed.
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{Your address and e-mail address}
Freedom of Information Officer
{Name and address of public authority}
Date {date}
Dear FOI Officer,

Subject: Freedom of Information Act request [ Ref: {your reference or have none} ]

This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act.

Could you please supply me with the following information:

1) The most currently available numbers or financial outlay (as available) for sheltered (temporary/hostel/refuge) accommodations for the homeless broken down by:
1a) fully-financed shelters for women;
1b) fully-financed shelters for men;
1c) part-financed (e.g. charity supported) shelters for women;
1d) part-financed (e.g. charity supported) shelters for men;
1e) fully-financed shelters for women with children;
1f) fully-financed shelters for men with children;
1g) part-financed (e.g. charity supported) shelters for women with children;
1h) part-financed (e.g. charity supported) shelters for men with children.
Please state the time-frame that the supplied figures are for.

2) The same data as for 1 but for victims of domestic violence only.

3) Do the Council have a policy under the The Equality Act 2006 (such as might be implemented by

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Updated 8th-December-2010 at 01:34 PM by Douglas (Formatting and added guidance for e-mail.)

Categories
feminism , Fathers

Why many women think they are feminists -- and why they are wrong.

by Douglas on 5th-December-2010 at 11:21 PM
Conflicting statements

It is not unusual to encounter a woman who will say "I'm a feminist" or "I believe in feminism" even when she then declares that she:
♦ believes equality is a good thing to aim for;
♦ disagrees with 'extremist' feminists;
♦ thinks men get a hard deal in some areas;
♦ wants to be a mother and perhaps even be given the choice to be a housewife;
♦ actually likes men.

As people trying to get a fair deal for men and stop society's increasing misandrist leanings, we should not alienate such women. I will show here that mostly they are not feminists and they need to understand that there is a greater divide between ordinary women and feminists than there is between ordinary women and non-misogynistic men.

I believe the pool of women that could be on the side of the anti-misandrist is far greater than the total number of women and men who are misandrist.

So, why do so many women think they are feminist?

For a start, they are female. The root word to female, feminine, and feminist is the Latin fēmella. They all have the same kind of sound. They are all connected. If one thinks of oneself as female then by default one associates feminine with oneself. If one thinks of oneself as female then by default one associates feminist with oneself.

Most of us were taught in school that "the suffragettes" achieved equal voting rights for women. As an overall impression, most people hold that the suffragettes are (pretty much) synonymous with the feminist movement and that the suffragettes got women the vote. So therefore, from a gut reaction, to be against feminism is to be against equal voting rights for women and all other forms of equality.

Lastly, there is the simple belief that feminism has done some good for women. There are now equal pay laws; there's maternity pay; there is recognition of and support for battered women; and so much more. How can any woman turn her back on that? To reject feminism, it seems, is to want to turn the clock back and not have those advantages. Women would be daft not to want to keep the legal protection. Most women (by no means all) would think themselves daft not to want to keep the improvements she perceives for her gender.

Most women, on the sidelines of the feminist agenda, will hold onto feminism rather than reject the advantages they think it has brought to women.

And who can blame them, until they realise the damage it does?

Let's take a look at some of the common misconceptions that keep women believing they are feminists

Suffrage and feminism
As historical evidence confirms, the suffragettes were about suffrage, not about feminism nor equality. That is to say, the main campaign thrust was to get suffrage (voting rights) at a time when few people had it.

United Kingdom
In the UK, there was a greater public swell at the time to increase the household-based voting to include more households (gender was not an issue). In order to keep the more well-off households with the greater political influence that they were used to, there was a personal suffrage movement that those households paying more for the government should have a greater say in it .. by having a vote each for both the man and the woman in the household. (It almost worked but the household restrictions on women were much less than most suffragette activators campaigned for.) The differences in gender treatment in the UK 1918 Act was intended to achieve equality but of a different definition. It was to make the number of female voters roughly equal to the number of male voters (under a household-based voting system this effectively had been the historic case) but in fact only 40% of the vote was women's. From 1928, the number of eligible female voters in Britain has outstripped the eligible male voters. At the time, the voting age was 21, so hardly anyone is alive now who was affected by conditions prior to 1928 (they need to be well over 100 years old).
New Zealand
In 1879, broadly universal suffrage was attained for men and in 1893, suffrage was equalised between male and female. Some races were still excluded.
[New Zealand is often erroneously stated as being the first country where females had the vote. It was the first self-governing country in modern times, whose parliamentary system still exists, where women and men were specifically granted equal voting rights. Other countries, including the United Kingdom, had women voting before this time but not specifically on an equal basis with men. The Corsican Republic, no longer existing, gave men and women universal suffrage in 1755 and Franceville, also no longer existing, gave suffrage to both genders in 1889. Non-self governing countries such as Pitcaim Island (1838) and the Isle of Man (1881) also preceded

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Updated 14th-June-2012 at 07:05 AM by Douglas

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