I hear the commitment phobic crap all the time. I also hear and see the "he's immature" and "he's rather live in Mommy's basement rather than be a man"

I see and hear that crap everywhere.

Perhaps women will begin to wise up and begin to ask "Why?" rather than the feminist tactic of gender shaming.

I hold out hope that will happen, probably around the same time my 5 pond Koi learn differential equations (no they don't bicycle, too dangerous in winter. They use the subway.)

A classic case of the old "double standards" we often note if we are clued up.. Has anyone ever heard a man complain that a woman is "commitment phobic" or whatever?

I have never in all my time heard a man ever complain that his, or any, woman is too reluctant to give up her freedom and had all her life over to his control, for as long as it takes for him to get bored of her..

We sometimes hear (rarely) of men who's marraige proposals get turned down.. But do these men rant and wail and moan about it?

No, they just go somewhere and cry perhaps, in private, resolve not to be such a fool again, or try a different strategy to impress she who must be obeyed..

The only time I really hear women using these terms tend to be after being let down by a man (i.e. singular) or from feminist circles when they wish to condemn single men in an effort to shame men as a whole (i.e. plural / stereotyping all men) for women's problems (such as being single, no man to blame when she won't fix her own shelving units, etc.)

Because, as we know, men are scared of confident, assertive good women.. Which is why these super woman can never find a man who will "commit" to them.. Or even have sex with them!

And of course, "men only want sex, they dont want a relationshiT"..

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A classic case of the old "double standards" we often note if we are clued up.. Has anyone ever heard a man complain that a woman is "commitment phobic" or whatever?

I have never in all my time heard a man ever complain that his, or any, woman is too reluctant to give up her freedom and had all her life over to his control, for as long as it takes for him to get bored of her..

We sometimes hear (rarely) of men who's marraige proposals get turned down.. But do these men rant and wail and moan about it?

No, they just go somewhere and cry perhaps, in private, resolve not to be such a fool again, or try a different strategy to impress she who must be obeyed..

I asked a woman to marry me before my ex-wife. I was turned down despite all the romantic trappings, nice dinner, a walk in forest hand in hand. 3 months later she said she was ready, and yes she would marry me. Sorry Becky...I moved on.

The last conversation I had with her, well, she called me a pussy since I proposed marriage and wouldn't commit after being told no after 3 months had elapsed. I do remember laughing so hard that my lunch came up.....

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I asked a woman to marry me before my ex-wife. I was turned down despite all the romantic trappings, nice dinner, a walk in forest hand in hand. 3 months later she said she was ready, and yes she would marry me. Sorry Becky...I moved on.

The last conversation I had with her, well, she called me a pussy since I proposed marriage and wouldn't commit after being told no after 3 months had elapsed. I do remember laughing so hard that my lunch came up.....

Now THAT is what I call a very typical and very believable tale! I bet she is still single huh?

Are people that won't eat spoiled food "foodaphobic" or just concerned about getting food poisoning? Women are committed to acquiring men's wealth. That often means temporary marriages that are initiated by men, are ended by women, and end favorably for the women and unfavorably for the men.

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I asked a woman to marry me before my ex-wife. I was turned down despite all the romantic trappings, nice dinner, a walk in forest hand in hand. 3 months later she said she was ready, and yes she would marry me. Sorry Becky...I moved on.

The last conversation I had with her, well, she called me a pussy since I proposed marriage and wouldn't commit after being told no after 3 months had elapsed. I do remember laughing so hard that my lunch came up.....

So she basically expected you to wait around until she was ready? That could've been a whole lifetime. And who wasn't ready to commit? (Hint: it wasn't you!)

the commit in commitment is the same as in commit suicide - leave the committing for the birds I say

Yes, that is the hog shit that new age women pull out of their asses whenever the man they seek is ultimately scared off by her narcissism.

For all of their makeup and cosmetics, for all of their fake expressions, etc. women can not hide their true faces. I am indifferent to them. I have seen far too many examples to conclude that most women aren't the way I see them.



Why do women deserve diamonds again? Hell, even if a diamond is fake it's a representation of marriage.

LOL, they say that NAWALT but all the women do the same shit. Are most women really this stupid? ROFL

They always say we're saying bad things about women when we're addressing the women that are bad these bad things. They say it doesn't apply to them but yet they're offended? Then they lie about women's contributions and say they do it. So on one hand we shouldn't generalize all women but they use themselves as an example of what women are. Then they say we should address men when we always hear that shit. What he says about women is true. Tons of women do what he says and they say the same shit to me that they're saying to him.

Commitment.

She considers commitment to be of the VERY GREATEST importance. It has to be TOTAL and for ALL TIME.

She is always willing and eager to commit and ‘intuitively’ ‘knows’ that it doesn’t come naturally but takes practice. It has to be done over and over. She thinks about it every day, practicing in her mind. She ‘knows’ that she can do it after having committed the fifth or sixth time and she ‘checks’’ again and again.

Each new commitment needs the old one to be junked. Of course.

He has ‘difficulty’ committing. It doesn’t matter that everyone tells him that he is ‘commitment phobic’, he still delays and delays. He is obtuse.

To him it’s a one- off thing. He thinks about it only once, usually, but deeply, continually and for some time, usually too long, not understanding it’s importance to her that he does it right NOW.

To him he is committing himself to her. She says the same. Of course. In addition to her he commits to the mortgage, car payments, the children and all their needs (and a huge amount of ‘stuff’ they don’t need) and schooling and health costs for at least 18 years. And her cosmetic supplies and hair-dos. And the ‘sales’ she needs to attend and the ‘lifestyle’ she can manage to lever up to.

She initiates 73% of divorces. She can do this easily as the only commitment she breaks is to him. She is still committed to him paying the mortgage, school fees, health costs, hair-do, sales etc. Well”, she says, “I keep most of my commitments and so should he”.

When a relationship ends, a woman will cry, and pour her heart out to her girlfriends, and she will write a poem entitled " All Men Are Just Like Pigs." Then she will ‘get on with her life’ - that he continues to pay for.

He won’t see the children unless he buys their time - from her.

A Judge will make him commit to that - or commit him to jail.

I recall when my ex-wife and I were splitting up and I was still trying to understand "why" (hint: you will never know). I said to her "You told me that you were committed to this relationship, commited for life is what you said." and her answer, in all seriousness and without meaning any humour or animosity was "I was committed for life but things have changed and now I'm not committed."

That's just one woman and a personal story and I don't want to project one experience on all women.

Unfortunately, it seems to be a common theme with about 20% of men and 60% of women. They just don't understand what "commitment" means.

oh! haha! I see now!