Women need more choice over children

**omegaflux** · 15th-August-2010

Luckily the majority of the commentors recognize this piece for the garbage it is.

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Women need more choice over children

From fertility treatments to support for working mothers and extended families, women need more options for childbearing

When I heard that six women in their mid-30s had decided to have ovary tissue frozen so that they can have children later in life, my first reaction was to be concerned for the patients. I hoped their expectations weren't too high. Not that I'm accusing fertility doctors of quackery – there's scientific proof to show that their methods work some of the time. But fertility specialists' marketing materials are full of promises of success. In this case, we hear that doctors at the clinic had previously achieved six pregnancies from eight transplants – but we didn't hear much about how many resulted in live births.

My second reaction is to be amused that a story about a very small, experimental fertility treatment could garner such headlines. We all know why, of course. More sexist segments of the public love stories about women in their mid-30s sweating over the possibility of never having husbands and babies. They can then cluck their tongues about how women thought they wanted feminism, but look: feminism ruined them for love and family; feminism spawned generations of women who want egalitarian marriages formed after they're established in their careers, and this often means putting off child-bearing until the years when fertility is declining and menopause is looming. Anti-feminist backlash culture eats these stories up, because they're supposedly proof that feminism has gone too far.

But I don't think feminism has failed these women. On the whole, I can't weep over the fact that some women have, because of feminism, had the opportunity to avoid marriage right out of school to someone inadequate, and instead can hold out for someone better while getting by on their own just fine. Not as many women would have that chance if they didn't have the career opportunities that make it possible for women to take care of themselves. Women holding out for more mature, egalitarian relationships have mostly been a boon to society, since older couples divorce less often, and children benefit greatly from the stability and improved economic status of parents who are well into their careers. Furthermore, women who are paying to freeze their own ovary tissue have been served well by feminism if they can afford this on their own.

If anything, a story like this shows that feminism hasn't gone far enough. It's great that women feel they can build their careers and hold out for a better, more mature match before they marry, but apparently, many women are still stuck in believing that they must have biological children in the context of a marriage to have it all. Isn't ovary freezing a response to that pressure? Why are women hanging their hopes of motherhood on the vagaries of erotic love? Why do so many women who don't rely on men to take care of them still think you must be in a relationship with a man to have children? The belief that you must have children in marriage must be strong if women in their mid-30s with multiple past relationships are using ovary freezing instead of considering alternatives to the nuclear family. Or that they're ignoring the cheaper technological alternative, the sperm bank.

Women need more options, not fewer. Society should offer more support to single parents, extended family arrangements, gay couples, or even platonic friends who create child-rearing co-ops. We need to have more support for people who are trying to build careers and raise children at the same time. We need more acceptance for women who don't want children at all. In other words, what stories like this tell us is that we need more feminism, not less.

**outdoors** · 16th-August-2010

wtf? feminazi garbage-i couldn't even read it

**Kargan3033** · 16th-August-2010

Man the femanazis and women must be getting dispreit in order to print this shit.

**savethemales** · 16th-August-2010

More feminism will only mean less children. We can see how the feminists are hardly breeding. Many of those career women don't want to be single mothers because it would cut into their entitlement. It's the poor women who want to be single mothers because then the government will pay her welfare. They want a man so he can support her and her children, we know this. Many of us are wisening up and want nothing to do with women. This will kill off feminism faster. The future generations of women will reject feminism and know that they need men far more than men need women! The career women themselves aren't happy, they wish they had a man to support her so she wouldn't have to work, but get to sit home and raise children and do her tradational roles. Feminism has taken away that choice.

**Kargan3033** · 16th-August-2010

Quote from savethemales

More feminism will only mean less children. We can see how the feminists are hardly breeding. Many of those career women don't want to be single mothers because it would cut into their entitlement. It's the poor women who want to be single mothers because then the government will pay her welfare. They want a man so he can support her and her children, we know this. Many of us are wisening up and want nothing to do with women. This will kill off feminism faster. The future generations of women will reject feminism and know that they need men far more than men need women! The career women themselves aren't happy, they wish they had a man to support her so she wouldn't have to work, but get to sit home and raise children and do her tradational roles. Feminism has taken away that choice.

Quoted for truth

**paul parmenter** · 16th-August-2010

"Luckily the majority of the commentors recognize this piece for the garbage it is."

Indeed they do. The writer is Amanda Marcotte, a well-known narcissistic feminist.

Garbage in, garbage out.

**Zuberi** · 16th-August-2010

That article has hogwash written all over it!

**Kargan3033** · 16th-August-2010

Quote from Zuberi

That article has hogwash written all over it!

Don't you mean pig shit?

**Hannah Banana** · 16th-August-2010

"platonic friends who create child rearing co-ops"??

Umm, what?

**Kargan3033** · 16th-August-2010

Quote from Hannah Banana

"platonic friends who create child rearing co-ops"??

Umm, what?

Hey my dear lady it's good to see you, how have you been?

**Hannah Banana** · 16th-August-2010

Quote from Kargan3033

Hey my dear lady it's good to see you, how have you been?

I'm good Canadian Bacon, you? Just busy round here most days. Plus its beach season......... turns out oil and water dont mix. Less fun that most summers on that front. Back to bakin for a livin between natural disasters.

Hannah

**Zuberi** · 17th-August-2010

Quote from Kargan3033

Don't you mean pig shit?

Yep!
After reading that article, I'm highly convinced that there is no wrong way for them to be complete idiots!

**shaazam** · 17th-August-2010

""From fertility treatments to support for working mothers and extended families, women need more options for childbearing"

this of course means wimyn remit their invoices for their clews impulses - which occur in fits and starts any ole time - to butthead ( er partner whatever)

the finale is in her Family Court when she implements a complete shake down on his person and dignity after which he is sans home car bank balance and has a lien on his wages and salaries until his dying day

**haute macabre** · 17th-August-2010

These feminists need to stfu and stop speaking for the masses of women. If you admit yourself that feminism is hurting women, IT'S OBVIOUS YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR MOUTH! Women had rights before feminists came along but now you just keep on fucking it up and messing it for all of us. It's no wonder men are distancing away form us, due to these fucking broads spewing out of the ass.

How the fuck do you know what 3 billion women want? Did you do a fucking poll or did you just pull it out of your ass? I'm going to go with the latter on that one.

Good god these people piss me off.

**omegaflux** · 17th-August-2010

More sexist segments of the public love stories about women in their mid-30s sweating over the possibility of never having husbands and babies. They can then cluck their tongues about how women thought they wanted feminism, but look: feminism ruined them for love and family; feminism spawned generations of women who want egalitarian marriages formed after they're established in their careers, and this often means putting off child-bearing until the years when fertility is declining and menopause is looming.

I think she took a shot at us here. Notice the shaming language (sexist segments).