How misleading is it that they call welfare 'welfare' when the entire purpose is to make sure one doesn't fare well but remain dependent on the government, bidding farewell to one's freedom in the process?

The humanity is being stripped from society, turning people into blobs of cellular mass. What was once regarded as sacred is now being thrown around in the dirt as if it just another yard rake.

The schools teach evolution and that we are evolving into better beings. I don't see that at all. It's hard to believe in something when the ones who promote it simultaneously trample it under foot.

Another path exists, one that has not changed since the beginning of time. This path gives humans their humanity and restores that which is sacred. It does not teach evolution but the creation of life and the building of a better future.

The power to create also brings the power to fix, or destroy.

It is things like this article that make me turn away from this world and ignore it's evil. My life is worth to much to spend it distraught over the problems of other men. I do not mind helping another but I will not wallow in his pity party.

The road to social sustainability is paved by personal accountability.

Period.

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The road to social sustainability is paved by personal accountability.

Period.

You are 100% correct. The article paints a rather bleak portrait of single mothers on TANF, rightfully so. What is not mentioned is the number of games the single mothers can employ to get cash out of the system. Many single mothers who have exhausted their welfare checks will seek employment, stay employed for a minimum of 90 days and then somehow get fired so they can collect 26 weeks (in some states up to 96) of unemployment. This is a standard practice no one seems to address, not the media, nor the state governments.

There are myriads of programs both state, federal, and private to give housing and cash assistance to single mothers. TANF is just one program.

Having single mothers mug people, steal, shoplift, is for one thing. Drug money. Most likely the single mothers have section 8 housing and federal food stamps. If there is a hungry child here in America, it's not due to a lack of food or the ability to obtain food either free or low cost. The issue is the food stamps get sold for booze, cigarettes, and drugs.

Hopefully the morality of having children with out a father in the picture will come to light a bit more, but I'm not betting on it. Feminists have fought tooth and nail to make single mothers a central part of their dark movement.

It is sad that "single mother" has become synonymous with the vision of a girl who deliberately or carelessly gets pregnant with little or no intention of involving the other parent of the child.

As an aside, therefore, let us please remember that there are some single mothers who do not fall in that category. There are women abandoned with children by men they had reason to think were trustworthy; there are women who have been raped and do not believe in abortion; there are women whose children's father has died. These single mums deserve society's care.

As for the rest, now seemingly the majority, who divorce a man who did not break his wedding vows or gets pregnant as a career choice in ways to con money from the taxpayer for her upkeep .. it is those single mums who society needs to address and correct.

As an aside, therefore, let us please remember that there are some single mothers who do not fall in that category. There are women abandoned with children by men they had reason to think were trustworthy; there are women who have been raped and do not believe in abortion; there are women whose children's father has died. These single mums deserve society's care.



antimisandry.com Single Mums and Welfare.

You mention several cases where a mother is single from events not of her choice and leap in an 'if...then' manner to 'deserve society's care'. But you do not make a case for either society having such a duty or what that care should entail.

There is a logical syllogism alluded to in an emotional appeal.

Where is her family? Her extended family?

What difference can we see between 'need' on the one hand and 'care' on the other?

I would agree that she 'may' need some assistance, but being an adult means being as self-sufficient as possible.

Where are her friends?

Is there not a greater call to be sought from family and friends before railroading strangers, against their will, into providing 'care'? Is not the pocket and wallet and purse of family and friends a first port of call, and their offering assistance, before taking monies from someone in the next town, spending some of it on an office full of bureaucrats and their tea breaks, expense accounts, salaries, pensions, office furniture and piles of paper, with a little left over for 'care'?

The thrust of the article is on the 'entitlement' issue, a morality issue, and that is built on a false sense of compassion which sees one persons sentiment assuaged by someone else's earnings.

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As an aside, therefore, let us please remember that there are some single mothers who do not fall in that category. There are women abandoned with children by men they had reason to think were trustworthy; there are women who have been raped and do not believe in abortion; there are women whose children's father has died. These single mums deserve society's care.



antimisandry.com Single Mums and Welfare.

You mention several cases where a mother is single from events not of her choice and leap in an 'if...then' manner to 'deserve society's care'. But you do not make a case for either society having such a duty or what that care should entail.

There is a logical syllogism alluded to in an emotional appeal.

Where is her family? Her extended family?

What difference can we see between 'need' on the one hand and 'care' on the other?

I would agree that she 'may' need some assistance, but being an adult means being as self-sufficient as possible.

Where are her friends?

Is there not a greater call to be sought from family and friends before railroading strangers, against their will, into providing 'care'? Is not the pocket and wallet and purse of family and friends a first port of call, and their offering assistance, before taking monies from someone in the next town, spending some of it on an office full of bureaucrats and their tea breaks, expense accounts, salaries, pensions, office furniture and piles of paper, with a little left over for 'care'?

The thrust of the article is on the 'entitlement' issue, a morality issue, and that is built on a false sense of compassion which sees one persons sentiment assuaged by someone else's earnings.

I think the state should step out of peoples affairs. If she is a good girl, there will be someone who would be willing to help her as a single mother. The state cannot correct errors in people, but society can.

If we really want to "help" single mothers, do we ever ask ourselves why single mothers are single in the first place?

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If we really want to "help" single mothers, do we ever ask ourselves why single mothers are single in the first place?

- The father actually leaves of his own free will
- The women set out to be single mothers
- The women realized they could get alot of free shit (as well as still having access to the fathers money) if they kicked the father to the curb

The first one happens less as women initiate most divorces, it is safe to assume that women initiate most breakups too. In my personal experience, women both cheat more and initiate the most divorces/breakups.

Why do women become single mothers?

Largely because they can..

Why does the state provide welfare?

Largely because individuals and families would rather the state sorted the problem out than they do it for folks they neither care about or want to feel responsible for.

It always makes me wonder why folks say that single mothers etc are thriving off the good natured generosity of the "taxpayer" as if any of these individuals has remotely near the resources to support even 1 of them fully, let alone any natural inclination to wish to do so..

The whole system of money is a big con, everyone aught to know they don't really have any of their own because its simply an abstract mathematical concept used to control folks within a statist system.

$1Million jackpot winner charged for collecting food stamps, public health insurance

Amanda Clayton, 25, is charged with failing to inform the state that her income had changed as a result of the lottery prize and a job

$1Million jackpot winner charged for collecting food stamps, public health insurance* - NY Daily News

Clayton, the mother of a 1-year-old, is accused of collecting $5,475 in food stamps and public medical benefits over eight months until Detroit TV station WDIV broke the story in March. She told WDIV that she believed she could collect food aid because she didn't have a job at the time.

Ruh-Roh.

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If we really want to "help" single mothers, do we ever ask ourselves why single mothers are single in the first place?

well the problem is in the statement itself; welfare is helping socially and financially poor people, not single mothers.
It means that a single mother does not have more entitlement to financial aids than any other family. That implies that resources cannot be stocked for a special category, but made available to all eligible (poor) people.

Single motherhood should be discouraged, it is like using children as human shields.

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well the problem is in the statement itself; welfare is helping socially and financially poor people, not single mothers.
It means that a single mother does not have more entitlement to financial aids than any other family. That implies that resources cannot be stocked for a special category, but made available to all eligible (poor) people.

Single motherhood should be discouraged, it is like using children as human shields.

My idea is to get to the root of the problem of single motherhood in the first place and not to further encourage it with welfare. The help I speak of isn't welfare but scrutinizing the source. Do you notice that people that receive welfare often don't fare well? Providing poor people with incentive to be poor isn't the way to help poor people anymore than providing single mothers with incentive to be irresponsible is the way to help single mothers.